When school starts back up on Monday, things are going to change with me and girls.

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ElStud

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Girls are attracted to me and I know this, however, I'm just haven't been really getting anywhere with girls lately. I can open a set, get interest, maybe even have a good, fun conversation with her, but it ends there. Now part of this is because I don't escalate with woman and I admit that's something I have to work on. But also lol sometimes even if they're interested, they won't give me their number. To me this is like them saying "I'm interested in you, just not interested enough to give you my number". Basically, the guy I'm looking to become by the end of this school year, is the guy who all the girls get giddy over, the guy who all the girls know and want to screw. Right now, I know I'm an attractive guy and I'm pretty confident with approaching sets, but right now it's just taking me to long to get the girls attracted. I've also got a few personal insecurities I want to overcome which I know get in the way of me getting woman.

One of these insecurities I need to fix are the fact that I still care too much about outcome. I go into sets WANTING something from the girl, other than just going into sets with the mindset of being social and having fun. The fact that I go in there caring too much about the outcome, is keeping me from having fun. I'm so worried about the outcome, that it keeps me from having fun. When I go in there wanting a certain reaction or "outcome" from a girl, the reason I think it's not fun, is because if the girl isn't giving me major IOI's, I start to worry and start becoming insecure. This insecure state can a lot of times keep girls from being interested or attracted, because they can tell I'm not really being real and that I just want something from them. The way I plan to fix this, is going up to sets with the mindset of just having fun and being social. I shouldn't be caring whether they're attracted to me or not.

I get into this state mostly when I'm in a very social setting, where a lot of people are talking and I see another guy talking to a whole bunch of girls, when I'm talking to none. Yeah, I know it doesn't make sense, cause it's very hard to explain. It's almost like, I start feeling like I can't get girls or something when I see another guy dominating most of the sets. It's almost like "Look at me! I can talk to girls too, you know". I guess this also comes back to the fact that I care too much. Yeah lol I don't understand what I'm saying too much either, because it's a feeling that's very hard to explain. I guess the only way I could overcome this problem is to stop being jealous when I see another dude talking to a bunch of girls and getting good results.

So that's my basic plan for approaching when I go back to school on Monday. To just stop worrying so much, loosen up and just have fun with the girls, regardless of whether they give me the number or not. And overall, I'm just going to completely STOP worrying about OUTCOME, because worrying about outcome is screwing up my game. And overall, I'm just going to try to loosen up and have fun with everything. For instance in play practice, I'm going to stop worrying about whether I'm getting the moves right or not and I'm just going to have fun with it and everyone else I'm dancing with.

But to conclude this post, I do have one question, how do I become that guy who all the girls get giddy over and want to screw?
 

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try to shorten this up and u may get more responses

plus i think you already answered your own problem in the second and third paragraph
 

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i know everyone gives you **** but i do think its possible to know a girl thinks you are physically attractive even if she is not responding

ur approaches sound lways sound

unnattural = planned = outcome dependant

vs

natural = sponataneuos = undependant

stop walking up to girls at school and asking them if they can dance cause it seems wierd too me...you should pick a situiational opener, or just meet them through friends

also stop closing or leaving the convos on a weird note or dragging a convo out

its better to get them liking you and just walk away to be repoened another time if you have nothing else to say

also play practice???? my sisters are big on this sh1t and all the guys are DOUCHBAGS always! everytime!

join a sports team...there is nothing wrong with acting but im sure this would help you out
 

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I am not trying to bash you but you might need to change schools to start over. From all the posts i read from you, it doesnt seem like you have good rep in you school. I dont see how because i read one of your threads where girls were asking you to do a monkey dance again or something like that. Also basing on your threads you need to work on you conversation skills because you come off as weird when trying to approcach girls IMO. My conversation skills suck too so i am kind of in a same boat.
 

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don't even try to help him. He can't take any constructive criticism. He's just an AFC and always will be. take his approaches as a good example of something you don't want to do. That's all he's good for.
 

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If he's a senior, how do you just "start over" by changing schools?

Plus, even if he were in 9th grade and had the window of changing schools, would he have the opportunity? Life isn't like an etch-a-sketch, you can't just shake it up and then start all over again, albeit with the new knowledge.

Network, Elstud, network. Game girls outside of school. I will GUARANTEE you that they are easier anyways. It's easier to build up interest, you have less chances of screwing up because you don't share classes, you can tell her to go on a date with you AFTER you first met.... plus it helps your social proof when all the guys find out that you got an out-of-school dime piece.
 
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Seriously dont help this dude, he will correct everything you say and pretend hes right.
I agree with this post.
 

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Nagi Power said:
I agree with this post.
nice #1 post there buddy.

and elstud, I think ur completely right about just going in and having fun. what also helps is another guy that is your friend. Having someone else there will loosen the tension.

i think you also need to open better like i wrote on ur last thread.
 

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saber said:
i know everyone gives you **** but i do think its possible to know a girl thinks you are physically attractive even if she is not responding

ur approaches sound lways sound

unnattural = planned = outcome dependant

vs

natural = sponataneuos = undependant

stop walking up to girls at school and asking them if they can dance cause it seems wierd too me...you should pick a situiational opener, or just meet them through friends

also stop closing or leaving the convos on a weird note or dragging a convo out

its better to get them liking you and just walk away to be repoened another time if you have nothing else to say

also play practice???? my sisters are big on this sh1t and all the guys are DOUCHBAGS always! everytime!

join a sports team...there is nothing wrong with acting but im sure this would help you out
Well it's only weird if YOU think it's weird. I opened a girl opening about dancing and got her number once. When approaching, generally if YOU don't think it's weird than the girl isn't going to think it's weird either. You guys are thinking about pick up too logically, when it's not really logical at all. Basically, if you're confident and you got a good mindset, you could probably open a girl saying ANYTHING and she'll be interested. Haha, that reminds me about this time I heard that a dude farted in his female friends face and she got all pissed and left the room. Then she came back and she was like "Hey, [Dudesname], what's up? We haven't talked in awhile". This basically goes to show you that woman don't think logically about these things and they live in the moment, in the emotion. And lol, why do I care about the other guys there? Sorry I'm straight. Being that there are so many girls(A lot of attractive ones too) in the play and such a small amount of dudes, it's a good oppurtunity to approach girls. It's especially good during dance rehearsal, because girls are in that dancing, sort of club state. And I did wrestling for the past 3 years until I quit this year and now this is my 4th year of track, so I've already been doing sports for quite a while.

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I am not trying to bash you but you might need to change schools to start over. From all the posts i read from you, it doesnt seem like you have good rep in you school. I dont see how because i read one of your threads where girls were asking you to do a monkey dance again or something like that. Also basing on your threads you need to work on you conversation skills because you come off as weird when trying to approcach girls IMO. My conversation skills suck too so i am kind of in a same boat.
Assumptions, don't make them. And I also can tell you haven't read most of my FR's. And plus things are only weird if you think of them that way. When I say "Assumptions, don't make them" I mean don't assume I don't have a good rep when you don't know sh*t about me. I'm quite well known and quite well liked around my school. Even the haters at my school have grown to respect me. Also lol Crazy Asian, you're cool dude, I don't 100% agree with you, but in a sea of haters and KBJ's, you actually bring something positive to the topic. I can faithfully say you haven't read most of my FR's because that "Monkey dance" phase was monthes ago and I've changed a lot since then, especially recently. When you have to ignore half the people in a thread, because of the intense trolling and "uncalled for" hating, you know a board is deteriorating.
 
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ElStud said:
When I say "Assumptions, don't make them" I mean don't assume I don't have a good rep when you don't know sh*t about me. I'm quite well known and quite well liked around my school. Even the haters at my school have grown to respect me.
based on your ability to read girls I'm going to say that you read everybody wrong as well. You kinda remind me of a guy who thought everyone liked him but in reality everyone just thought he was a weird creepy little kid. You're probably just misreading others impressions of you. If everyone knows you and if I'm right then you pretty much have no chance. OH and I'm not assuming. I'm inferring (or drawing conclusions based on given evidence).
 

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Are you kdding me, if you are well liked by everyone and everyone knows you you would be a cool kid. You know what happens to cool kids.... they get girls and get laid something you have never done so please stop bashing everyone that is trying to help you. 90% of people on this msg board cant stand you because of your "know it all personality" and you are telling me that other people in your school like you.

I can almost see it now....
Teacher: 2+2=4
Elstud: No its not you are noob afc ***** , 2+2=5

Only people you like is the ones that tell you, Good job you are improving but the people that actually give you some very good advice, you bash them and tell them they dont know anything. If you dont want advice than why post FR's on this msg board....its not like we can learn anything from it because from million of FR's you have posted you only got one number and it was probobly fake.

I am willing to bet that 2-3 maybe 5 6 years from now you will still be a virgin boy thinking he is a player and telling people they are wrong. I dont even know why i am wasting my time typing this because i am starting to think you have some mental issues.
 

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Blah blah blah and blah. Well I'm gonna ignore you dude, you haven't said anything useful, positive or even true in this post or any of them. Your post are thus simply a waste of my time. Why this board has deteriorated to trolls, haters and overall assholes is beyond me, but good thing is regardless I'm going to keep improving. Seriously though, you guys hating have all got FAR bigger problems than woman. The fact you care so much about me is a problem, the fact you feel the need to hate on me for no reason is a problem. Perhaps you guys weren't loved enough at childhood? I dunno. All I'm saying is you guys who are hating have far larger problems than woman. Granted I got problems away from woman of my own, but nowhere near what you guys have. I don't feel the need to hate on people for no reason, if someone doesn't take my advice, I don't argue with them, I move on. You guys who are hating have problems.

I mean come on, even though I don't totally agree with CrazyAsian and LostAndConfused I can still respect them, if only because they're not haters and they actually give decent advice. And better yet, they ADD something GOOD to the board, which is more than any hater or troll can say.
 
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