When Guys Try to Amog You - How do you handle?

[Reyaj]

Scenario

You are in a club talking to a girl.... and some other guy comes up outta nowhere and grabs the girl and starts talking to her....

 

[Strelok]

The guys in this board will probably suggest you to let it go and go to flirt with other girls to show how "alpha" you are and show your social proof and all that other stuff so the girl will follow you back anyway.

I would suggest you to make a choice,if you are close to a girl that you really care it will be a turn off for her to see that you can't stand your ground and even worse you're gonna boil in anger if she leave the place with the other guy.

Of course that you would risk your health or even being arrested in case you don't tolerate it but whatever you do think about it,do you really believe in all those bullsh1ts about peace you hear from women? those same women that tell you how much they like nice guys?

It also depends who you are and where are you,if you are in a violent country it's hard to have somebody doing anything like that because most of the men are violent themselves and are used to take no sh1t,it also depends how you look like because if you are threathning enough there wouldn't be any need for a fight in case you stand your ground.

Just evaluate yourself but keep in mind that rarely a man perceived as weak got the girl in the end,maybe for some days but not in the end.
And don't believe about those bullsh1t about women to have a strong moral,they are animals just like us...we are looking for attractives ones while they are looking for manly ones.

As I said evaluate yourself and the environment,the laws(both human and national ones) are different everywhere,what it would be a simple rumble in russia would be considered something heavy in usa.

 

[TheAsianLoverReturns]

No woman is worth fight over.

Disrespect is another thing. If he didn't do anything to disrespectful to you, then move on and charge it to the game. B*tch chose the other guy by walking with him.

As for disrespect, that's something no real man will tolerate.

 

[teagan]

I actually did this last night to some guy. Guy just stood there like a deer in headlights as I took the girl he was talking to away. That's the last thing you want to do.

Seriously, as it was said before, if you weren't disrespected by the guy, just keep moving. At that point, if she continues a conversation with the guy over your conversation, you've failed and need to find someone else.

 

[logic1]

You pull out your snub nose 38 and blow his brains out.

 

[Mr.Positive]

No woman is worth fight over.

Disrespect is another thing. If he didn't do anything to disrespectful to you, then move on and charge it to the game. B*tch chose the other guy by walking with him.

As for disrespect, that's something no real man will tolerate.

^ This.

The only thing to add, is to look the man in the eye. That is important, and will give you the answer to your question.

Respect is the only thing worth fighting for, because it's hard to earn...and can be easily taken from you.

 

[Reyaj]

So some differing opinions here......

Scenario 1

What happend in the original scenario I described was that I chatted up a girl near the bar and she was talking to me.... then all of a sudden this guy comes up to her and touches her face.. and basically kinda pulled her head in his direction to talk to her...... I stood there kind of acting like I didn't care... She then even said to me "sorry I have annoying friends" But the guy continued to dominate her space and she ended up kinda going with him away from me...... So basically the guy knew her and was jealous I was talking to her so he pulled her away to speak....... Now this girl was by no means anything special and I just started talking to her so I figured starting a conflict wouldn't be worth it... the guy's body language looked like he wanted to get into an alpha wolf faceoff but I just didn't give into it and played it cool.....

Was doing something different a better move?



Scenario 2

Now I had another situation years ago where I went out with this attractive girl to a party at a club.... We were dancing making out etc........ I then went outside to talk to one of my friends... When I got back I saw her sitting down talking to a guy.... I acted unphased like I didn't care... but it was hard because this girl I was seeing and I actually liked..... But anyway the kicker is this... I eventually went up to her and said hey lets go outside for a second... she got up to follow me when this other goofy tall guy came out of nowhere and just went right up to her and started talking to her.... This all happening while I am standing there!!!

So I figured any girl with class would have just continued to proceed with me... but this stupid cvnt kept talking to him.... I felt like a douche just standing there... but I didn't know what to do..... luckily my friend intervened and dragged her away.... but she knew I was jealous and used it against me....

So in this situation should I just have walked away if she didn't come with me??? Should I have said something to the other guy??? Should I have dragged her hard by the hand to get away???

She turned out to be a cvnt anyway so her character was screwey anyway....


I am looking for feedback on both scenarios! Thanx!!!

 

[Kailex]

If the woman has a high enough IL, she won't turn away from you to pay attention to the other guy. Not only that, but if you start walking away because he's talking to her, she'll follow you.

I know it sounds like theory, but it's happened to me twice. The first one was "accidental" in that I just saw him talking to her and I had to go to the bathroom so I figured: Screw it. I started walking to the bathroom and she came after me apologizing for "whoever that was".

The second time, it was intentional. Some orbiter was being territorial. I have better things to do than to feel awkward watching someone else's conversation. I walked away on purpose, simply because I was outcome independent. I honestly didn't care if she decided the other guy was better. Well, apparently she liked me more. She came after me and asked if we could go outside from some fresh air. Funny, I never figured fresh air could be found underneath the sheets of a woman's bed.

 

[Colossus]

Rather than scenario feedback I will tell you how to handle this type of stuff:

Unless you are a big intimidating dude you have to expect this at clubs. The rule of thumb is this: if the guy didnt flat out disrespect you, and she still choses to talk to him rather than keep her attention on you, you need to move on and pay her no mind. Do not hesitate either. Do you think a man who is worth a damn would stand there waiting???

No woman is worth coming to blows over. PERSONAL disrespect is another story...but you have to be the judge of that.

 

[squirrels]

It's all been covered.

Honestly, if it was that easy for him to snatch her away, your "game" was probably tenuous at best...maybe you waited too long to escalate/close. Chalk it up as a learning experience.

 

[Bible_Belt]

If the woman has a high enough IL, she won't turn away from you to pay attention to the other guy. Not only that, but if you start walking away because he's talking to her, she'll follow you.

agreed. Consider it a sh!t test that you deliver, instead of receive.

 

[Tony T]

You got 2 choices.

1. Turn and walk away...immediately looking for the next HB to chat up.

2. Confront the Arsewipe and get right in his face. If it looks like he may try something...head but him right in the nose. That will drop him like a bag of Rocks. Then turn and walk the other way.

REMEMBER,...in a Bar you are in no mans land...that means that any fights that break out are basically a No Call No Foul zone.

~T

 

[backbreaker]

I am pretty even tempered, I try not to fight unless I'm hit. I've been pretty disrespected before, but just because he bites doesn't mean I have to bite back. not worth it in the long run. you go to these places these are the people that are there.


some drunk **** about a year ago i went to the bathroom i came back ne was chatting my girl up and tried to tell me to back off his catch lol. had he put his hand on her i would have beat the breaks off her, but considering i just went to the manager and told him, and the guy was promptly escorted off the premises.


this is a story i never told here and why i'm so passive when it comes to that stuff.

when i was young.. like what..11. Dad was clubbing. my dad has a temper, and can knock. bad combo. so from what i understand he was at the club, tipsy, hitting on a woman she was feeling him, some dude's girl and my dad told him to back the **** off, and when he didn't' my dad poped his ass with a beer bottle and beat the **** out of him. dad has some hands. okay. later that night my dad comes home ("i was spending hte weekend with my dad), we are eating taco bell chilling watching def comedy jam like at 4am... next thing you know

"pow pow pow come out mother****er i know you in there"

dad runs to his dressing room grabs his 9. this mother****er found out where my dad lived and came drunk and loaded literally. you talking about someone scared (me). my dad didn't' give a ****, opened the door, yelling, police called, shots fired in the air, the saving grace is the police station was literary, 1 block away from his house. had it been any further, i dn't know what would have happened, becuase dude was pissed the **** off.

since that day i said you know what.. you don't know who the hell you are ****ing with. it ain't that serious. one thing to defend yourself and your girl. But ****.. man it's just a club. if she likes you she will do what she does. if she doesn't she won't.

Also a dude I was in AA with, dude 15 years, he got high when he was in his 30's, went to the club, some dude "disrespected him" by spilling a drink on him and not apologizing then talking to his girl in front of him, he took a baseball bat, went and hid in his bushes and busted his head open and killed him (he knew the guy or knew of him).

I dont' know where you guys live but that false bravado **** can get you killed down in little rock fvcking with the wrong person. **** that, show respect, all times.

 

[ChanceBoudreaux]

So some differing opinions here......

Scenario 1

What happend in the original scenario I described was that I chatted up a girl near the bar and she was talking to me.... then all of a sudden this guy comes up to her and touches her face.. and basically kinda pulled her head in his direction to talk to her...... I stood there kind of acting like I didn't care... She then even said to me "sorry I have annoying friends" But the guy continued to dominate her space and she ended up kinda going with him away from me...... So basically the guy knew her and was jealous I was talking to her so he pulled her away to speak....... Now this girl was by no means anything special and I just started talking to her so I figured starting a conflict wouldn't be worth it... the guy's body language looked like he wanted to get into an alpha wolf faceoff but I just didn't give into it and played it cool.....

Was doing something different a better move?



Scenario 2

Now I had another situation years ago where I went out with this attractive girl to a party at a club.... We were dancing making out etc........ I then went outside to talk to one of my friends... When I got back I saw her sitting down talking to a guy.... I acted unphased like I didn't care... but it was hard because this girl I was seeing and I actually liked..... But anyway the kicker is this... I eventually went up to her and said hey lets go outside for a second... she got up to follow me when this other goofy tall guy came out of nowhere and just went right up to her and started talking to her.... This all happening while I am standing there!!!

So I figured any girl with class would have just continued to proceed with me... but this stupid cvnt kept talking to him.... I felt like a douche just standing there... but I didn't know what to do..... luckily my friend intervened and dragged her away.... but she knew I was jealous and used it against me....

So in this situation should I just have walked away if she didn't come with me??? Should I have said something to the other guy??? Should I have dragged her hard by the hand to get away???

She turned out to be a cvnt anyway so her character was screwey anyway....


I am looking for feedback on both scenarios! Thanx!!!

on those 2 occassions were the amoger taller than you?

height plays a big part in amoging, not just in woman, clubs but also in jobs , i find myself to be constantly undermined because of being 5'6 even though i have more experience it doesnt make much of a difference

 

[synergy1]

No woman is worth fight over.

Disrespect is another thing. If he didn't do anything to disrespectful to you, then move on and charge it to the game. B*tch chose the other guy by walking with him.

As for disrespect, that's something no real man will tolerate.

I don't find my spots get blown up a lot by random guys if I am gaming a chick. There have been a few cases where a dude comes up to the chick, but finds out I am trying to run some moves and they usually back down. A few of the times, they even apologize. Likewise, I try not to blow up others spots, and many of the times I have...its been entirely by accident.

Being somewhat energetic when it comes to conversion helps too. If another dude comes up and tries talking to people, if you are more interesting and are still talking to everyone, its hard for them to pull your girl away. Honestly, some nights its just not as easy to be that kind of guy though.

 

[Bible_Belt]

What then do "real men" do when they are faced with the disrespect which they do not tolerate?

They enjoy some new pvssy.

 

[mikeyb]

Edit: got some turning 25 to do before I can post here.

 

[TheAsianLoverReturns]

What then do "real men" do when they are faced with the disrespect which they do not tolerate?

Not something you would understand.


I don't think.. "What if he has a gun?" "What if I go to prison?"


I think.. "I'm going to f*ck this guy up." I get ready to attack. The other guy sees it and we make peace and go our separate ways. I haven't been in a street fight in 11 years.

 

[denizenkane]

What about just engaging them both in a conversation? Is that so hard? If he is really there to protect her its much easier to show him that you are not a threat than to "out-alpha" him. Plus it shows how cool you are.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Yo Troops,



Certain environments are conducive to men "and women" behaving badly.

Some great examples ARE bars, nightclubs, big parties, etc. Almost any place where the senses are being assaulted via loud music, crowds of people, flashing lights, alcohol, and "recreational drugs" are prime breeding grounds for "disrespectful" behavior.

Also, factor in the fact that if you happen to be with a woman that you have no stated "claim" on (i.e. she is NOT your established long term relationship girlfriend or your WIFE), then the chances are high that some guy is going to come up and make a play for her.

"To HELL with this other guy. I'm gonna go see if I can get at her too!" he thinks to himself as he goes after the woman you happen to be talking to.

The end result is a confrontation of some sort:

Either externally - You commence to crack open a fresh keg of "Whoop Ass" on him.

Or internally - You feel disrespected, outraged, or embarrassed that some other guy has come up and hit you with a SERIOUS cokkblock.

Either way, the situation is NOT a good one.

My recommendations would be for guys to minimize the number of venues you frequent WITH a woman that are conducive to muthaFukkas "actin' a fool". Or, if you just happen to meet a girl at a venue like this-------think TWICE before getting into any kind of physical altercation.

Only exclusive, worthy girlfriends and wives deserve to have their "honor" defended against talkative, touch-feely, horny-assed guys.

All others are on their own. You owe them, and yourself NOTHING. There is NO shame in stepping off when a girl you WERE talking to "chooses" to TALK to the newly arrived guy INSTEAD of you.

What a woman like this has done is confirm that she has POOR choice in men since she DIDN'T choose "you", right soldier??? :yes:



On a side note/Case in Point:

I remember going to a nightclub once, and one guy was trying to hit on a girl who was "clearly' with another dude. Well, one act of disrespect led to another and a fight broke out.

It was like something out of a movie:

Chairs flying.

Tables broken.

Liquor bottles flying all over the place.

Etc.

Well, when the police arrived, they hauled BOTH guys off in a squad car. Meanwhile, I noticed that the chick they were fighting over wound up going home with ANOTHER dude who was ALSO trying to get with her earlier that same night.

So at the end of the day, the two "Alpha Male Macho Men" with something to prove wound up spending the night in jail, while the "nondescript regular guy" probably wound up spending the night with chick THEY were just fighting over.

You don't have to be wearing "Night Vision Goggles" to see who the winners and LOSERS were in that "AMOG" scenario, do you?




Soldier on.