When a chick says "we'll see, I will let you know, etc"

[Glassguy]

@oldmanofthesea

It's not hard to do. If it's a party, live music or whatever that you are inviting her to, just do the withdraw as follows:

Her: I'll let you know
Me: you know what, if your schedule is that busy, I'll find someone else to go this time and I'll hit you up later on when I'm free again to do such and such and want someone to join.

That's it .

In my original post I clearly told her that I was free Friday evening but I had plans the rest of the weekend that I wasnt going to be moving around.

What's funny is she brought that up while out Friday evening. She said "got another date tomorrow night or something?" to which I responded "yes". As I was leaving her place later she made a remark about if I was still going on that date. I told her yes, I wasn't going to flake on someone because I understand how valuable people's time is.

That seemed to put her into hyper mode when she messaged me Saturday.

It's ok to let them know that right now you're happily single and enjoying the single life. Still open to a LTR of the right person who adds value to your life comes along and vise versa.

Just because I got this chick out on a date doesnt mean I handle my business any different or change frame. My busy schedule is still booked.

 

[oldmanofthesea]

you know what, if your schedule is that busy, I'll find someone else to go this time and I'll hit you up later on when I'm free again to do such and such and want someone to join.

No idea why I didn't think of that. You worded it quite well so it doesn't come off as butt-hurt.

 

[guru1000]

Her: Sounds good. I dont see any harm in grabbing some drinks and having a new friend

I wouldn't look so deep to the friends concept. That's mostly a red flag for rookies who don't understand the nuanced concept.

I actually use it all time for plates who are at their last call pushing for exclusivity or they are out. I respond with:

"Hey, I'm not in that exclusivity headspace right now. But I'd love to stay friends with you. Unless of course, you don't want to be friends, then I can understand."

They always agree to be friends and the plate relations continue indefinitely (until I grow bored) as if the discussion never took place.

Another scenario when I use the friends speech is when I see her defenses up. I get this sometimes because of my physicality (tall & muscular) so I automatically wear the black eye for the pump & dump guy. So in this scenario, in passing, I'd mention something like, "We are going to make great friends!" and then give her a hug. Then she relaxes a bit, and I move in, LOL. It works well.

Be fluid and give the audience what they need (to hear)

 

[Glassguy]

No idea why I didn't think of that. You worded it quite well so it doesn't come off as butt-hurt.

I'm such a naturally aloof and indifferent person that I come across like that without being gamey. It's a blessing but some women take it the wrong way until they meet me and just realize it's my natural personality.

 

[Spaz]

Meh not my style to do this shiet once they say we'll see or something to that effect as I would've easily msg someone else in my orbit.

Sure I've gone the extra mile for a date if I find her real amusing — and its a rare occasion.

Only then.

I don't recommend men to make this sort of play a habit — no offense to you glass dude.

 

[Glassguy]

Meh not my style to do this shiet once they say we'll see or something to that effect as I would've easily msg someone else in my orbit.

Sure I've gone the extra mile for a date if I find her real amusing — and its a rare occasion.

Only then.

I don't recommend men to make this sort of play a habit — no offense to you glass dude.

None taken. And I'd never do this on the regular and I know that I'm not the average dude out there chasing these women like a hobo needing a ham sandwich. My game is tight.....most generally text game and one on one seduction.....and its something that can easily go wrong. Since I am still the same ole indifferent dude, I still didn't care about the outcome. Just testing new processes and this seemed like a good chick to try this on since it was not a cold approach.

Unless a woman knows you to a degree, this would never work. She has to realize there is something worth losing had I walked away. That cant happen on a cold approach IMO.

 

[In2theGame]

Anytime a chick has told me "I'll let you know" or "We'll see" I simply respond with "Ok Sounds Good" and I end it right there. If she hits me up in a few days then great, if not, Im already talking to other Women. Strangely enough, When I would be out with other Women, thats whens I would get a text from the "I'll let you know" chick. I'd respond to the "Hey" text a few hours to a day later. if I dont hear from the girl after a few weeks, I delete from my phone but crazy enough I've had chicks wanting to meet up with me MONTHS! after us texting and I'll hook up with them then.

 

[guru1000]

This in particular I've been reconsidering. I didn't like the results I was getting by only pursuing high IL girls. (High IL initially that is.) What I mean is, I didn't like the women I was pulling. I wasn't slumming, there was still attraction, but too often I took the path of least resistance and ended up disappointed in myself. There was desire, but there was also ego at play.

And I was ignoring all the other IOIs that aren't so obvious, in fact are counter-intuitive and can even seem like "low interest." More to the point I wasn't giving myself enough credit.

I've been in semi-monk mode the past several weeks due to work and school, but it's given me time to adjust my mentality and really think this through on a different level. Last year I reassessed my life and changed it dramatically. I will do the same with seduction this year.

Don't get me wrong Samspade, the game still needs to be played but not out of ego but out of what serves both parties best. I didn't wrap my head around this concept for some time.

Let me explain, although this may appear tangential to your point.:

You meet a girl. You click. But she never reaches out. You have to do all the initiating. So here, your ego (it would seem) would come to play and say, "Fvck her, who does she think she is? I'm dropping her until she reaches out." And it would work. Sooner or later, she would reach out due to your absence.

When I reached the "egoless" state, though, I had a conflict. What had worked effectively for me out of ego I now had to abandon?? It didn't make sense at first. Looking deeper, though, I realized I was not looking at the intent correctly.

By not reaching out, I was serving her and myself best, and so what serves US best must be done out of practicality and efficiency, not ego.

Now back to your post:

Many of times we don't pursue med IL because of EGO.

She makes it difficult --NEXT
She gave me no IOIs--NEXT
She rejected my kiss--NEXT
She mentioned the word "friend"--NEXT
She XYZ- NEXT

However, if I desire her, and don't try, who is really NEXTing whom? Most often, in such a scenario, we are NEXTing ourselves.

I can't tell you how many times I have gone against my ego and pursued seemly low-med IL and ended up in LTRs with them. Sure you'll get rejected too, but I'm not here to "protect my heart" nor my ego. Just simply to pursue my desire as I see fit.

 

[17 shots]

They do that so you'll wait around for her response all day instead of hanging with another woman. I give them a cut off time when they do that, like ok, well if I don't hear from you by 5pm, then i'm just gonna do my own thing

 

[glass half full]

Now, to throw another monkey wrench into the discussion, I have had “I’ll let you know” turn into a definite date. This is rare however. To me “we’ll see” is worse than I’ll let you know.

This likely means 1) let me see if I have anything else planned, 2) I need to ask my sister/friends about you, or 3) she's on the fence about you for some reason, it may be minor.

 

[DreamAgain]

An I'll let you know response is pretty funny, rookies take it as a positive sign you're still "in the game". What it really means though is that she is out of the game for good, the game called your life.

I usually respond with "np", intentionally not even capitalizing it, and then just say I'm busy if they do ever reach out (50/50 chance just like that guy in the video said has been my field experience).

 

[Medina]

"I'm going to a friend's house party this Friday at 8om. You should come with me." If she says, "It sounds fun! Let me get back with you later in the week with a more solid answer," I can't really withdraw the offer smoothly in this case because I'm already going anyway, she knows this, and it would look/sound strange. I'm already going.... What's the difference if she goes or not?

I only bring it up because a month and a half ago I had that exact experience with a girl from the outer bands of my social circle (inviting to something I was already doing and told her that). All I said to her LMGBWY was, "Ok sounds good," and I never heard back from her nor did I reach out again. She still likes half my FB pics and I ran into her just last week while I was walking down a sidewalk holding hands with a tall hot blonde I've been seeing. I'd be lying if I said that didn't feel nice lol.

Bad idea to begin with. Too low risk

Always put balls on the line. Aim for the date

She'll know if you're pu$$ying around

If she still stalls after the balls, withdraw or walk

And be respected forever

 

[greatsnake]

The title is enough for me. It’s time to next her, no need to have an indecisive woman around.

 

[Glassguy]

And when you "said forget the whole friends thing, I want to get to know you", you showed how serious you were. You also showed vulnerability - which is a sign of strength. Vulnerability is the opposite of ego.

which is exactly why I did it

@Glassguy I want you to change your entire dating paradigm and look at everything upside down. There are no more sh1t tests.

My game is tight. I dont have a one dimensional game. I dont come on this board for advice, rather to help other guys through what helps me build and keep 2-4 chick rotations.

Thanks for the props

 

[Glassguy]

One of the major problems with this board is a lot of guys have one approach. If it doesnt work they just consider it a no win situation and have no idea how to improvise.

With a solid background in sales, a lot of that stuff applies here. Although sales is based on showing/telling how good your product is to the customer, in dating your product (you) should speak for itself. You should never have to tell a woman how great you are in order to get a date. That is when you are fvcked. Just like in sales, the harder a salesperson has to push the product, the shyttier the product. Notice that I didnt sell myself HARDER to her, I merely took a different approach to get the same result.

But if a chick doesnt follow the script for most guys, they retreat or buckle.

The entire idea of this thread is to show how to shift gears and go about getting the same thing at a different angle. If you go into war you certainly would not want just one weapon.

Obviously the first way of approach was not getting things to where I wanted them to go, so I took a totally different approach as to my intent. That is what changed it. Nothing changed with my looks, status or SMV. But when I changed the angle of my intent she took the bait.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

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Just food for thought.

Good post mate but, Christ, use the spoiler text.

To answer your Q, I spwm volume, calibrated obv but, I'll let youbknow, lmr or low sex drive means #nextset!

Hotter girls be turning 18 l9/20!21 everyday. A new egg drops every month as the wall approaches on.

Women sing a different tune when SMV tanks.

Enjoy the decline.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

One of the major problems with this board is a lot of guys have one approach. If it doesnt work they just consider it a no win situation and have no idea how to improvise.

I agree. Take a different approach but I'd say most men are blue pill beta cuck providers. Most are far too invested rather than focusing on volume.

I don't fix what's broken. Its either on or next. Blow me or blow me out. I will push or pull but, in a single mother victimhood era, the disappearing act is GOAT STATUS.

I see women my age who cannot compete. It takes a **** on the equality narrative. Society cheers women off the cliff with girl power, Sloot gonna Sloot, victimhood, and careerism. They bought the lie as their predisposition is to follow.

GOAT STATUS is in being a leader of men. The sort of man women are submissive for. Its in knowing your self value and in the words of Ambi, "I don't chase. I replace."

New girls are turning 18 everyday.

Herein lies the push back on hypergamy. ∆

 

[Glassguy]

use the spoiler text.

TF is spoiler text?

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

TF is spoiler text?

Spoiler