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I met a girl last Saturday at a close (female) friend’s birthday. I noticed her when I first got to the party, which started at my friend’s house, but was at a private room in a club later. I did not speak to the girl at the house, but don’t think I made a bad impression because of this at all, because I was talking to friends, both male and female in the house, and occupied the whole time. A while after we got to the club, I noticed this girl again, and went over to her, and asked her “Hi, are you ----” (… being the name of a friend of the friend whose birthday it was, whom I had never met, but our families did business together, so thought it would be appropriate to introduce myself, because from what my friend had told me, this girl resembled ---. At this stage romance was not on the agenda at all.) However, it turned out that this was not the same girl, she replied, “No, --- is that one over there” at this stage my eyes got a proper look at the girl with which I was talking, and realized that she was very attractive, and I’d more or less done the hard part. So I continued, I said “Oh, okay, so what’s your name” to which she responded, “---.” At that time I did not have a clue what she had said, (she is half Iranian half Indian, myself being ¾ Indian, ¼ English), she then said “Nice to meet you”, and extended her hand to me, I extended my hand, and said, “Pleasure, I’m ---(my name).” We shook hands, and she then looked into my eyes and smiled. At the time I was smoking a cigar, and she said to me, “I know girls don’t normally ask” there was then a pause, at this stage I got a little excited… I guess I was jumping to stupid conclusions, after I said “yes”, to my relative disappointment, all she said was “but can I have some of your cigar?” to which I laughed, in a somewhat mocking manner, and handed my cigar to her. She took a puff and handed it back. We continued chatting, about where she was from, what she did etc. during which she took a few more drags from my cigar, then we parted ways, when a friend of hers (female) called her over, before she left she gave me a kiss on the cheek and a hug. After about an hour, we met again, she asked me if I had any cigarettes, which I did not, but said I would get some, went and scrounged a few from a friend, and went back over to the girl, chatted a bit more, asked for her number, which she put into my phone, and after this I left the party.
On Monday, I spoke to my friend whose birthday it was, to find out a bit more about this girl. On Tuesday evening I rang the girl, a bit of casual banter, and proposed dinner, to which she responded, “Sure, that sounds great” I proposed the Saturday, to which she said she could not, because she said she had a lot of work for an exam, which she had mentioned earlier in the call. So I proposed the following Friday (the one coming). She said to me “Sure, but you will have to call me to remind me, because I’ll forget”. I then ended the call in a positive manner, as if she had given an outright yes, “Okay, excellent, I’ll give you a call closer the time! Bye” is how I concluded the call.
I’ve not called her since, but have spoken to my friend whose birthday it was, and she has said that the girl is interested.
I’m wondering, when should I call her again, because I cannot remember what day she said the exam was, and also I assume that this is a test, but as I did not give her a specific time when I would call, and its been almost a week now, I assume I am doing alright in that respect? If I leave it too late, she may make other plans.??
 

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Call her whenever you feel like it. Don't go into the whole "wait two days" thing. Just make sure that you aren't too nervous when you make the call. You're doing fine. I like how you had the cigar, it's really good peackocking.
 

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MyNameIsEd said:
Call her whenever you feel like it. Don't go into the whole "wait two days" thing. Just make sure that you aren't too nervous when you make the call. You're doing fine. I like how you had the cigar, it's really good peackocking.
I meant I had not called her since I proposed this Friday. I've already called her once.
Excuse my ignorance, but I don't often use this site, but what does peackocking mean?
 

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lol, I'm not really into the the whole PUA vocabulary myself, but peacocking is basically having items and clothing on you that attracts the opposite sex to you.
Like your cigar for example. The funny thing is that i've peackocked without even knowing about it until i found this site. I wear a scarf around my head all the time because i'm crazy like that.
 

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MyNameIsEd said:
lol, I'm not really into the the whole PUA vocabulary myself, but peacocking is basically having items and clothing on you that attracts the opposite sex to you.
Like your cigar for example. The funny thing is that i've peackocked without even knowing about it until i found this site. I wear a scarf around my head all the time because i'm crazy like that.
Aha, okay...
Well, the cigar was only intended for my own use, lol, heck I was not even intending to pick up girls at this party. As I mentioned I'm 3/4 Indian 1/4 English, and don't really tend to find many English girls atractive (I live in London), and I was not expecting any of my own kind at this party, because my friend whose birthday it was is English.
 

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If your friend is telling you the chick is interested, then go for it. Call her again, and this time make sure you SET SOMETHING UP. If you hadn't wrote that your friend said she still likes you, I would say you have all but blew it with this girl. Never, ever, EVER use her reality as a basis for a first date. Why? Because women are starnge, shifty, disorganized. She's busy and wants you to know it. So look past the BS. Call her, make small talk and TELL her to meet you somewhere. Be specific. You should already have all the details figured out before you call. You should also figure what you are going to say if she denies you. Do this all before you call. If she passes up the wonderful oppurtunity to hang out with you, I would recommend saying something along the lines of, "Ok, well I'm kinda busy right now. You have my number. Call me when you want to do something." At this point she will either suggest a date when she is free, or she will call you back. If she does neither of these things, her interest level isn't high enough, and you should move along to the next girl. Hiope this helps!
 

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mr. joker said:
If your friend is telling you the chick is interested, then go for it. Call her again, and this time make sure you SET SOMETHING UP. If you hadn't wrote that your friend said she still likes you, I would say you have all but blew it with this girl. Never, ever, EVER use her reality as a basis for a first date. Why? Because women are starnge, shifty, disorganized. She's busy and wants you to know it. So look past the BS. Call her, make small talk and TELL her to meet you somewhere. Be specific. You should already have all the details figured out before you call. You should also figure what you are going to say if she denies you. Do this all before you call. If she passes up the wonderful oppurtunity to hang out with you, I would recommend saying something along the lines of, "Ok, well I'm kinda busy right now. You have my number. Call me when you want to do something." At this point she will either suggest a date when she is free, or she will call you back. If she does neither of these things, her interest level isn't high enough, and you should move along to the next girl. Hiope this helps!
But when to call, this is the question... My plan for the next call was just to confirm this Friday anyway. More or less it was a yes from her, so I'm not phased in this aspect- I get the feeling she is interested.
 

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Also, any ideas for casual banter for the phone, that will not be too involved... I'll save proper convo. for when we meet.
 
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When she said call me or else "I'd forget" was a clue that she was interested in you calling her again -- If date is for friday then call her wednesday evening - close to the set date.

Do you really think an interested woman "forgets" when a man is intersted in her?? NO, they don't forget - they actually think about it at every free moment.

Do a simple dinner and nothing extravagant.
 

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Last Man Standing said:
When she said call me or else "I'd forget" was a clue that she was interested in you calling her again -- If date is for friday then call her wednesday evening - close to the set date.

Do you really think an interested woman "forgets" when a man is intersted in her?? NO, they don't forget - they actually think about it at every free moment.

Do a simple dinner and nothing extravagant.
Are you sure she did not mean she will forget because she 'wants to'...? If you know what I mean
 

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Okay, just called her, and am totally confused.... I totally bummed out, like big time, stuttering, etc. etc. But she still said yes to dinner this Friday... sealed the deal... She said "Call me again, like early on Friday" ... really confused with this... I mean I know I'm good, but this good?!
 
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Calm down before you urinate on yourself!:D

She wouuldn't have reminded you to call her if she didnt want you to call.

She wanted to make it seem like it wasn't a big deal but for a woman to be asked "out" IS a big deal!! And she was trying to reassure you that she is interested.

I told you to call wednesday because today was too early -- now you have to call again.:rolleyes:

Quit trying to prove yourself by being a great conversationalist and trying to impress her -- when you try too hard and think of all the moves in advance you put pressure on yourself than you screw up -- as you did by mumbling on the phone to her.:rolleyes:

Relax and chill and talk on the phone less than 6 minutes and 39 seconds and you'll be ok.:rolleyes:
 

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Last Man Standing said:
Calm down before you urinate on yourself!:D

She wouuldn't have reminded you to call her if she didnt want you to call.

She wanted to make it seem like it wasn't a big deal but for a woman to be asked "out" IS a big deal!! And she was trying to reassure you that she is interested.

I told you to call wednesday because today was too early -- now you have to call again.:rolleyes:

Quit trying to prove yourself by being a great conversationalist and trying to impress her -- when you try too hard and think of all the moves in advance you put pressure on yourself than you screw up -- as you did by mumbling on the phone to her.:rolleyes:

Relax and chill and talk on the phone less than 6 minutes and 39 seconds and you'll be ok.:rolleyes:
Thanks dude!

In the past I've tended to go for the crazy type of girl, you know the one who bosses you around, looks amazing, all the ones I've been with have been stunners (not trying to boast here), but mental, if you know what I mean.

This one is pretty too, just not too everyone's tastes, I can tell that.

The reason I mumbled on the phone, was because I called just before and there was no answer. So I was not expecting her to pick up... (assumed she was not home), so I was a bit shocked when she answered.

Am getting nowhere near 6 mins... the first call last week, was 5 mins, and the one now was 2 mins 30 seconds.

I really hate talking on the phone... the only time I can do it is if it is a business call, even when talking to friends I get nervous...

Do I really have to call again on Wednesday?
 
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Wednesday should have been your "first" call - but now I would call thursday night to give her the time that you will pick her up - if she flakes (cancels) then it better be because of a emergency situation and not "just because" - then reschedule.

When you call thursday if she is hesitant about going then hang up the phone and move on - you are not her personal secretary who's purpose is to remindi her of her appointments!!

Only call once and if you get the answering machine leave the time that you will arrive. Let her call you next to confirm that she received the message
 

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I met the girl for dinner on Friday, we got on well, and I feel the encounter went well. After dinner I sent a text message:
"Had a nice time, Great company!"
to which she replied
"I had a great time too, thank you for the dinner. x"
to which I replied
"You're welcome. x"

My question is when should I call next? Or should I wait for her to call?
 

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As a rule of thumb I wait for the girl to contact me = I'm testing for a high interest level

Of course, everyone is different but if she'd enjoyed your company and isn't retarded she won't let you get away 99%
 

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What kind of cigar was it?
 

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Maximus Rex said:
What kind of cigar was it?
Cohiba Esplendido, thank God I can get hold of Cubans here in London... I don't think I could bear it in the US where I believe one cannot buy Cuban cigars.
 

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