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Phyzzle

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^^Well, I'm bitter enough and pessimistic enough to believe every word of it. :D

This DOES sound like the sort of thing that happens all the time.

And Wilmor never said the the guy was making 6 figures. Rather the guy told her so. Which is not the same thing as making the money.
 

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Anyone who is amused/curious should check out the regular forum:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=135175

Turns out he's one of those self-styled 'day traders'. That's where all the "I'm going to make so much" talk came from. You often see that chest-thumping get out of hand. Even on here, you get apparently good posters like Backbreaker being revealed as bragging bullsh!tters. People love to brag about money they don't have.
 

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Phyzzle said:
Anyone who is amused/curious should check out the regular forum:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=135175

Turns out he's one of those self-styled 'day traders'. That's where all the "I'm going to make so much" talk came from.
actually it says he has a masters degree in something. didn't catch the day trader the thread.

The only goal he has is to make money. That is what he said before. He has his master's degree and has a very good job and I think that is all that matters or is important to him.


im telling you, keep this woman talking long enough and she's going to slip up at some point and expose this thread as flamebait.

the fact that she's posting it in the multiple forums also suggests she's seeking maximum attention (although i admit, she might be seeking maximum advice).

like i say, all this is not adding up from where im sitting.
 
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Let's look at what happened. You let some loser back into your life (you should have known better), and now thanks to your EXTREMELY poor judgement, you have a baby to take care of.

You brought an INNOCENT child into your extremely messed up situation, when you are CLEARLY NOT ready to be a parent.

Seriously, you need to forget about this relationship. In fact, you need to completely forget about your own needs for a while. Your focus is now entirely on your daughter.
 

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wil... i just read your post.
sometimes, we expect too much out of people.
we expect them to do the right thing, and when they don't, we are the ones that suffer because we put stock into them.
i am not sure why you got back together with him, after the first time did not go well, but for whatever reasons you did, i am sorry that it did not work out again, and then to add to the mixed emotions, you ended up pregnant.
then to top it off, you had the baby early and clearly there are medical issues that cost alot, and keep up awake at night with worry.
this man, he isn't worth your worry. you shouldn't concentrate on him.
maybe its his personal nature, or maybe he just had low confidence in becoming a dad to a tiny, sick baby... but he ran.
you are the responsible parent in the situation.
if he can't find it within his heart to be there for his little one, then he is not worth another worry.
once you get past this, you will see that not all men cheat and not all men run out on their children.
however, all men need a chance to become men. when it is rushed too fast, or they do not have proper role models... how do they know what to become?

i would cut my contact with him now, and i would remind myself that i would never want to long for someone who did not want me back.
when the time is right, you will meet someone who won't be able to get enough of you... and until then, you just take the time to become the great mother and woman that you are going to be.
sometimes when we are alone, we learn more about ourselves because we have time to think.
 

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Thanks to all of you for your sound advice.

As for those of you who think this story is fake: All I can say is that I wish it was.

A few questions I noticed:

About him running to mom and dad: He just starting working in July. When he lived with me, he wasn't working. He was in school full time working on his Master's. His parent's agreed to let him quit his job in September so he could finish. Now that he is working, they still pay some of his bills.

About him moving in with me and not the other way around: I own my own home. 3 bedrooms. He was still renting as he was still in school.

How can I afford the $2800 per month to care for the baby: Work for a good enough company that still pays my salary when I am out of work and I took out a second mortgage on my house. Why am I laughing out loud...? What else can I do??

As I stating, I don't want the relationship back. I was just lookingfor some understanding and a male perspective on how and why someone could run out on their baby.
 
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WilMor said:
As I stating, I don't want the relationship back. I was just lookingfor some understanding and a male perspective on how and why someone could run out on their baby.
He wasn't running out on his baby - he was running away from you!!! Your baby is an extension of you!! He wanted sex and not a family - understand this!!!
 

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My only question is why did you pick such a loser? Are you so unattractive that you can't get one of the many better guys out there?
 

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Whatever you do, DON'T tell your daughter when she is old enough about how much a loser her father( sperm donor ) is! If you do, she will probably blame herself and get low self-esteem when she becomes a young woman and the cycle will start again! :kick:
 

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Phyzzle said:
Even on here, you get apparently good posters like Backbreaker being revealed as bragging bullsh!tters. People love to brag about money they don't have.
BB was revealed to be a BSer that didn't have the money heclaimed he did? Can you link me or tell me how this was revealed? I missed it.
 

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Last Man Standing said:
He wasn't running out on his baby - he was running away from you!!! Your baby is an extension of you!! He wanted sex and not a family - understand this!!!
This is probably closest to the truth your gonna get here, most of these responses look to be the stock standard sugary blow smoke up your ass fluff replies that waste everyones time. (guys a loser/you deserve better/not a real man/deadbeat dad etc etc).

"HOW COULD HE RUN OUT ON HIS BABY"
I've noticed seems to be a convenient scapegoat for not only chicks but society in general to demonise the male and once again place the female as the "victim". He's so heartless he turns his back on his own genes just because, yet you dont even come into the equation? Hmmm I for one am just not buying it anymore. I could go on but this topic makes me nauseous to be honest.

WilMor said:
March 2007 I found out I was pregnant. We both had plans on ending the relationship previously, but, when we found out we discussed working on things.
Yeah funny how alot of pregnancies seem to occur when the fear of someone leaving is prevalent, dont you think? Not pointing the finger at you,on this occasion it may well have been a genuine fvck up on your behalf perhaps, who knows? (Oh and before the cookie cutter response of "what about him" comes, realise I'm one of the few that are actually aware the male has zero say if and when pregnancy occurs).

Fear of abandonment is the new IVF for non creative women.

In all truth it's quite a disgusting state of affairs.

Just an opinion from the males side seeing as your here asking "whats up with this" ie whats he thinking. But your probably aware of all this anyway and your post was just an attempt to vent/gain approval whatever, yeah?
 

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Ill give you the benefit of the doubt and take your story for truth.

I dont think this issue needs a lengthy analysis, either.

He did not want to start a family with you. But he did. Consequently, he could not man up and be accountable for his actions. That is a coward's way out. Your child was not a mistake. No child is. The pregnancy was, clearly, and this tool is not willing to pull his sack up and face the music. Period.

I suggest you move on with you life as best you can. If you MUST take legal action, then do so, but take only what you need. Dont make it more of a mess than it already is.
 

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what a bunch of ****.

this guy is garbage and you still want him your childs life.


I am a great father and my X wishes to take me out of my childs life.

this world is ****ed up
 

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Find some nice-guy provider like all the other women do in your situation. Treat him like crap til the kids old enough (maybe get another by a different bad-boy alpha) and then dump the chump and take half his stuff.

Hmm, maybe she's fishing around here for such a sucker. Don't PM her Skywalker!
 

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Update-

His mom called yesterday and ran down a list of excuse. I told her I didn't want to hear any of it.

apparently, this is what happened. I told you all he was at the hospital with me from Friday until Wednesday morning. (She was born on monday morning)

Prior to her being born, we were trying to work out a way for me to move with him. I knew this wasn't going to happen, so I wasn't actively pursuing selling the house etc. So, what we discussed was that even if we didn;t get back together, we would work out an arrangement or an amount of financial support he would provide without going through the court system. At first, this was my idea and he was opposed, and then the tables turn. He agreed to it. I had in my mind that it wouldn't last long as he is hotheaded and when he gets mad he throws tantrums. I told him I preferred it going through the court system so that we wouldn't have to be in constant contact, through the good and bad after she was born. But, I agreed to this, and I had in my mind that one foul up would be the end. I knew that I didn;t want to feel like I had to beg him every month or keep asking or calling for it.

So, fast forward to the hospital:
It was imperative that I pump breast milk as she was premature and she needed it. ( I had to have it by discharge on Friday) The woman from the hospital store came around and suggested that I try to get a breast pump from insurance. They denied the claim. I turned to Baby daddy and suggested that we go half on it as it was about $400.
He said no. He said that he would pay for the whole thing. I agreed. The woman never came back around that day. He had to leave the hospital on Wednesday morning to go to work. He said, I love you, I will call you later, which he did. He called serveral times on his ride home and after work he called.
Thursday, the woman comes back and I sent him a message and asked him to call so we could discuss how we would pay. He never called back. He knew that I had to have it by discharge on Friday. All of Thursday goes by Friday, and all of Saturday.
Finally, Saturday evening, I sent him a message and let him know that I was going to file for Child Support.
My reasoning: He was showing me right then that if I needed him for something for the baby, he wouldn't be there immediately. It would require begging and constant asking.

So, apparently, this is what p1ssed him off.

His mom says that she is tied up because he is mad and his father, her husband is angry and she can't go against them. I told her I didn;t want to hear any excuses from her or him and that I never wanted to see him again. Basically, I told her any excuse tehy came up with was just that, an excuse!!!!

And now, he is even going as far as to say that he wants a paternity test... LOL... I am not opposed to it, but, I told her that is a cop out. She also, said he called the hospital to check on the baby (the one that isn't his now...lol) I told her that was bull because he name wasn't on any of her information because he wasn't there long enough to sign anything.

Our court date is on the 10th. She believes that things will smooth over after that because then we won't haev anything to argue about. WHATEVER!!!

(PS: She also said "He isn't seeing anybody. I know that for a fact. He comes down all the time because he is lonely")
LIKE I CARE!!!!!
 

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she is trying to be a good grandmother by calling since her son won't, even if that means going against his wishes or her husbands, just by calling.
she wants to be invited to see her grandchild.
she is probably on a message board somewhere else upset that she wasn't invited because her son messed it all up.
you can raise your kids the best you can, but one day they become adults and you have to let go of their hands and let them go off in the world alone. when they do, and they mess something up, you end up suffering for it.
it might not be her fault he turned out how he did, or it may very well be her fault...
i just know that it could go either way. 1. she is a great grandma who becomes a great asset and ally to you. OR 2. she pretends to be all that, and then takes the baby to his arms, and shuns you when you come to pick up the child.
you just never know how these things will turn out.

just remember that it could go either way .
 

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I don't trust her or any of them. She will not be aloud to see the baby unsupervised or outside of my home. She said at this point that she will try and "sneak away" to see the baby some time soon..... lol.
 
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