What's up with this... Long- by female...

WilMor

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Hi, all.

Let me start by saying I am a woman in need of advice or maybe suggestions.

Okay, I was dating this guy 5 years ago, and the relationship went horrible. He cheated, treated me horrible and we ended with severe arguments and hate for each other. We didn't talk in that time period. We both went on with our lives. He got engaged and ended the relationship, and I had relationships as well.

Fast forward to last August. We ended up talking again. Everything was perfect. We spent all of our time together and everything was so much different than last time. We both felt that we were done with dating. His parents were discussing our wedding and we were discussing our future as well.

February 2007, he moves in and the first day, things went horribly wrong. He became completely different than how he was when we were dating. He was insecure, always felt I was sneaking and talking to other people. All in all, we argued all the time. He called me names, threw fits about stupid things. I am not completely innocent, because I argued back.

March 2007 I found out I was pregnant. We both had plans on ending the relationship previously, but, when we found out we discussed working on things.

Anywho, that didn't work. He moved out in April. Out of state. When he left, we hugged and termed it a "break" from things. He got to his parent's house and refused to talk to me at all.. in the beginning. Then we started talking and he found a job closer, but still 3 hours away.

We discussed me moving up there and he came down to visit on Weekends. We went shopping for the baby had a good time with each other.

I unexpectedly had the baby early. He was there when I was in the hospital for 3 days, and 2 days after she was born. When he left to go back to work, he said bye, I will call you later, I love you.

Anywho, that was 2 months ago. I haven't heard from him since the baby was 2 days old. He refuses to answer my calls, won't respond to emails and he even had the receptionist at his job tell me he didn't work there when I called... (that was a lie). Of course I got pissed off and called him an a-hole on a few messages etc. But, how could someone leave their baby in Intensive Care and not call to see how she is doing....

What the heck is going on????
 

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Going from what I read in your post...

Sweetheart, what is goiing on is you're letting this POS walk all over you and you keep going back to him.

Don't be afraid of standing up for what you need in your life. You need to take care of yourself and your BABY RIGHT NOW...

OK?

Forget this guy.

Forget him.


There are hundreds of guys who are faithful, confident, secure, and look at taking care of your child with pleasure.

Right now, you're nothing to this guy.

Say YES to people's good behavior, and say NO people's BAD behavior. You need to learn what your Personal Boundary is. You need to identify good actions and behavior from the opposite.


This is clearly bad behavior.

OK, number one, he clearly has no confidence or security in himself. He doesn't even respect you. And opbvioulsy has no self respect or self esteem to behave in that manner.
he is immature. Inable to handle change and challenges.
He sees you as something physical. And now with the baby you are a liability to him. He wants to distance himsefl from you, because he wants nothing to do with you and your baby. To him , your baby is a mistake. he is unable at this point to take care of it emotionally and be a good role model. In short, having "a man around" does NOT mean having a GOOD Man of the house and a GOOD Father and Role Model for your child. Better to be alone and happy than with someone and miserable.


You need to get your priorities straight starting right now.

P.S. If you want some female support too you may want to PM Penkitten, or Lovely Lady.
 

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It just hurts so bad. Not just for me, but for her as well. I have tried to make every excuse for him, but can't come up with any.
 

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Willmor, I will do my best to help you. But if you want help in the Mature section, you MUST provide your age.

This post wil likely be moved due to you not posting your age.

I am of the opinion that right now the men of the MM forum will be better able to help you get a better perspective on things.


Please post your age in your Profile if you want to continue participating in the MM forum.
 

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OK, number one, he clearly has no confidence or security in himself. He doesn't even respect you. And opbvioulsy has no self respect or self esteem to behave in that manner.
he is immature. Inable to handle change and challenges.
He sees you as something physical. And now with the baby you are a liability to him. He wants to distance himsefl from you, because he wants nothing to do with you and your baby. To him , your baby is a mistake. he is unable at this point to take care of it emotionally and be a good role model. In short, having "a man around" does NOT mean having a GOOD Man of the house and a GOOD Father and Role Model for your child. Better to be alone and happy than with someone and miserable.


This is so true. He has never been able to handle change or challenges. Whenever something goes awry, he runs, or looks to his parent's to fix it.

I know the baby wasn't planned, but, he seemed like he had adjuested to the fatc that she was coming either way. He wanted to go out shopping every weekend and started fixing up the room. He was at the hospital when I got sick for 3 days sleeping in a chair and stayed for 2 days after she was born.

I am just confused because I expected more. He went on about how it was a man's job to care for his child and he was goingto do it.
 

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Wilmor,

You asked for help here and Interceptoer - one of the best around - offered you some very sound advice. The first thing to do is care for yourself and daughter. The energy you are putting out calling, emailing, leaving VM's, calling his work, etc. That is all a WASTE of TIME and you know that in your heart of hearts.

You need to put that into you and your kid. This guys is a chump and a loser. The kind of guy - NONE of us here want to be. We hate AFC's like him and you should too!. How and why you do this is will be the challenge. Now, if you have the $ to care for the kid, keep that going. If in the end all you need is child support, then by God figure out the processes and proceed. Keep in mind that this can get VERY, VERY UGLY!!!!!!! If not done with the right attitude from both, so expect some push back, etc.

Best thing to do probably right now is to INGORE HIM for some time and focus on you and yours.

-Eyedogg
 

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Oh, I know it can get ugly, and that is what I have been trying to avoid.
If she wasn't in need of special care, ($2800 per month) I wouldn't even go for child support, but, I have been busting the bank to care for her in the time being. I had to take out a second mortgage on the house and loan. He knows I have been out of work with reduced pay. When he was at the hospital, he was going on about his 6 figure salary etc. Now, I see that he was being a jerk.

We have been doing great, though it has been hard. Like I said, he knows I am out of work to care for her and he hasn't even offered a pamper!!!
 

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You know I hate seeing a good man go down because of some crazy ass biatch getting prego to "tie" a guy down..and then go for the man's livelihood by sending the state after em' for child support. UGLY!

However, most of these situations include my close friends - now a douche bag AFC that is making 6 figures...and runs to mom and dad - PHUCK EM' Get that paternity test and move forward - Most kids have no true defenders in this world...
 

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Well, I feel the same way. I hate to see women manipulate the system and take down good guys. I have some close friends who this happened to.
But, in this case, I hope they take the shirt off of his back.

Lol, but, yes he runs to mommy and daddy. They still pay some of his bills!!!! lol.
 

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So Wilmor - think about this. You came here less then 2hrs ago asking for advice on your situation and in less then 5 posts from two guys here...we have your punk azz ex "pinned" to the tee!

Now if that doesnt paint the picture anymore clear..I dont know what will? I am thinking that your close friends and fam have all heard about this situation from you and they have given you the same advice? Now its time to REALLY move on and put your energy to good use and NOT "hounding" this loser down for "some kind of closure" or some other poor excuse to keep after this loser. STOP and move ON!
 

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Oh yeah...it would probably be a good idea to add your age to your profile.
 

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I both love&hate female posters like Wyldfire, Wilmor, and to some extent, Iqqi, since they are all shining prototypes of what has gone horribly wrong with modern women.

After this guy cheated on you and treated you like crap, you "broke up" (he left you for a better-looking woman.) In the six months between breaking up and getting back together, you're telling me you didn't meet one guy that you were attracted to?

Okay, so maybe have no social life, but you are 25! If you had gotten a profile on any dating site, you would have been inundated with good-looking, reasonably successful guys wanting to know you. But instead, you got back with the same old cheater, continued to love him through all his fits, all his transparent lies (I make 6 figures, Durr), and still, you were in love with him!! You even got pregnant out of desperation to have him.

And then, instead of asking about child-support from a child-support forum, you come to a relationship forum and ask,

Anywho, that was 2 months ago. I haven't heard from him since the baby was 2 days old...

What the heck is going on????
"How I do I get him back!? How do I make this horrific deadbeat love me!?"

Congratulations, you have just become this woman:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=134835

There's something going wrong with our society, and that something is people like you.
 

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I both love&hate female posters like Wyldfire, Wilmor, and to some extent, Iqqi, since they are all shining prototypes of what has gone horribly wrong with modern women.

After this guy cheated on you and treated you like crap, you "broke up" (he left you for a better-looking woman.) In the six months between breaking up and getting back together, you're telling me you didn't meet one guy that you were attracted to?

Okay, so maybe have no social life, but you are 25! If you had gotten a profile on any dating site, you would have been inundated with good-looking, reasonably successful guys wanting to know you. But instead, you got back with the same old cheater, continued to love him through all his fits, all his transparent lies (I make 6 figures, Durr), and still, you were in love with him!! You even got pregnant out of desperation to have him.

And then, instead of asking about child-support from a child-support forum, you come to a relationship forum and ask,


One thing is, there was 5 years between us breaking up and getting back together, not tthat it matters. My question wasn't about getting him back.
Two, I didn't get pregnant out of deperation to have him. Wrong again
Three, I wasn't aware that this is a relationship forum since there aren't many women.
 

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Wilmor,

The challenge is now in your hands. You have lived...now, have you learned? What would you different? How are you going to live your life going forward?
 

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Beware WilMor, there are a lot of bitter men on here who are the equivalent of all of your bitter female friends whose number one complaint is all men are dogs. Just keep that in mind when someone says some off the wall sh!t to you.

Welcome to the forum. :)

For the most part, you will get some good advice.
 

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I have learned that from now on, I am going to continue to focus on what matters most to me.

I am on track. I have my own home and a good career. With that, I intend on making my baby's life as happy and fulfilled as possible.

I am not looking for a relationship. I have much I want to accomplish before I can do that. That is what I told him when he asked for one. I went back on my word and what I had set out for myself and got involved in something against my better judgement. I refuse to do that again.
 

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WilMor said:
One thing is, there was 5 years between us breaking up and getting back together, not tthat it matters.
Oh, right, it was 6 months between getting back together and moving in.


My question wasn't about getting him back.
:confused: Then I don't under stand. What is the question? You asked what's going on. He left; that's what's going on. Why? Because he doesn't want you or the kid.

Are you asking, "how do I make him voluntarily pay child support?" What on earth makes you think anyone on this forum would know about that?


Two, I didn't get pregnant out of deperation to have him. Wrong again
Okay, I believe that. Sometimes, I react unsympathetically to accidental pregnancies because I've never caused one, so how hard can it be, eh?

Three, I wasn't aware that this is a relationship forum since there aren't many women.
Double :confused: What kind of forum did you think this was? Did you read any sort of description, or any of the posts, or anything on this site, anywhere? Like the description that shows up under Google?

Yes, I think you posted this in the wrong place, as you may have noticed!!
 

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i think this is a troll.

something doesn't seem right with this post.

the guy is portrayed like a white trash bum initially - moving in with his girl (instead of her with him), him being possessive and thinking she's cheating on him and throwing childish tantrums, etc. even when they split he goes nad lives with his parents and apparently they pay some of his bills also.

Then later we learn he's 27 and making six figures. wtf?! if that's the case why is he bumming off everyone and behaving like a child? doesn't add up.

on another point...

the whole 'this doesnt just hurt me, it hurts her also' (her being the baby) is absurd. its a baby! do you honestly think its 'hurting' when its father isn't around?


anyway, maybe i'm wrong but this post sounds like a female version of trolling. making up some bullsh*t story to see what kind of advice men give.
 

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WilMor said:
Lol, but, yes he runs to mommy and daddy. They still pay some of his bills!!!! lol.

so let me get this straight? you aren't working, your man wont return your calls, you have a new born that costs you 2800 bucks a month on top of mortage payments etc.... and yet you still have the levity to 'laugh out loud' x2 over the fact that the father of your child is a bum who can't pay his bills.

most people who were actually in the situation you are in would not be laughing about things.

yet another indication that this thread is either a made up story or you are an immature female who still looks at life like a 16 year old does.
 
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