What's the one thing that disappoints you about this board (from a thread/posting pov)

Atom Smasher

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Do you think there was ever an absence of such posts? They have always been on men's forums and always will be. It seems that some of you become paralyzed by these posts and fall into hand-wringing about the "losers" that you are daily choosing to hang out with. I personally think it is dangerous and counterproductive to frequent a forum that is comprised of people whom I consider "losers". I personally wouldn't do it.

Over the years, my method has been different. I ignore the stuff that I personally am not interested in and as I always like to put it, "mine the gold". The gold is invisible to the hand-wringers.

In my experience, the ban hammer comes down excruciatingly slowly on members who resort to trashing and verbally abusing other members. We go to great lengths to prolong the deployment of a ban and dialog at length with the person in order to get them to ease up on the abuse. Sometimes they see it and turn it around. Other times they react like foot-stomping children and that's when we ban. You guys would be amazed at the childish, tantrum-laden messages we get from some of them. They are breaking out of their online persona and showing us their true colors. It never ceases to amaze me how grown men can dive into toddler-like tantrums in contrast to the person they portray on the boards. With these guys, their messages to us reek of major insecurity. That's why they resort to name-calling when challenged by other members. They have nothing else of substance in their arsenal to deal with opposition.

For clarity, it is true that abuse and name-calling of other members is a ban-able offense. Writing threads venting about women is not.

I find myself chuckling about the posts here that cry about the other crybabies. They're just crying about different things, but they're all crying.

Mine the gold and ignore the noise, fellas. It has always been on men's forums, and always will be. I would offer another suggestion for those who cry about the site and yet hang around here every day: Why not write some productive posts to counteract what you consider to be offensive? Instead, many men dwell on the offense instead of counteracting it and adding positive material that might get men to see more clearly.

I remember one day about 20 years ago. I was in a 7-11, looking around and remarking to myself, what a bunch of low-life losers in this store, buying all this crap with no regard for health. Then, to my horror, I realized that I was one of them, and for all I knew, one or more of those people may have been thinking the same thing about me. I don't go to 7-11s anymore.

I rarely look at guys as losers here. There are a few of course, but some who appear as losers are actually confused guys who are trying to make their way and figure this stuff out. Some are currently in the anger phase, some are in the depression phase, or perhaps some other phase. I try to help them work their way through it, to be a positive influence in this forum. The ones who don't listen and who stay stuck for years don't even register on my radar screen. I don't fret over them; I dismiss them, knowing there will always be some on any forum.

Those are some of my thoughts on this imperfect but immensely valuable and effective forum. This forum single-handedly facilitated my recovery from a clueless, lost "boy" to an effective man who garners respect everywhere he goes, from men and women alike. It's not that the forum magically transformed me, rather, I leveraged the good of the site to my advantage and ignored the static.
 

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I find myself chuckling about the posts here that cry about the other crybabies. They're just crying about different things, but they're all crying.
Crying is crying; observing a cry baby is different to being one. Me telling someone that they're being a crybaby is an attempt to make them stop in a very matter of fact way, for their own good.

The point being, there is a marked difference to the style and message of the articles on the main site, and in the DJB, compared to the trash we see in the forum today. Though I wasn't here when those were written, I probably was dating women at the time, and for all it's worth, the game hasn't changed so dramatically since then that this current outlook of victim-hood is warranted. With the possible exception of divorcees, it's just weak, low-grade men refusing to accept that they have a lot of hard work ahead of them. The articles on the main site are pragmatic; this forum at the moment is literally worse that LoveShack, which I took a very brief visit over to the other day. I'm not even joking.

I think the legitimate posters here can weather a bit of in-fighting and debate. Real men can deal with that; that's the nature of a forum, as opposed to a blog. What gets very tiresome is talking someone down off a cliff, only to come back the next day to find them all back on top of the fcking cliff. Offering assistance seems like a waste of time, so more experienced members are dropping like flies.

The attitude is completely counter-productive to the cause. There are other forums where there isn't half the b!tching going on and the conversation is on point. Like I said, when you have more b!tching going on here than at a place like LoveShack, you've got a problem. Only mods can sort that out. The regular members have tried, but it hasn't worked. There are literally more guys here interested in moaning about women than seducing them, right now.

I've been pretty consistently here for four years and can assure you, the quality has diminished drastically in the last two years. Back then, newbies (mainly) humbly came looking for advice. We had at least half an ounce of respect The new breed think they know it all and just want to trash talk. There is no difference between calling another member a fagg0t and calling all women hookers. The message and vibe and fall out is exactly the same; if not worse when women are being referred to.

If women are so difficult to get along with and tolerate, how come I hit a count of 80 two weeks ago; with 5 already in 2017? But sure, these crybabies can keep telling me (and the others like me) that they are the ones who know better :D And you mods can keep letting them until there is literally no respect or value left here whatsoever.

The question to ask is, is this the place you come to learn to attract or (continue to) repel women?

Not crying about crying. This is my observation.
 
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Crying is crying; observing a cry baby is different to being one. Me telling someone that they're being a crybaby is an attempt to make them stop in a very matter of fact way, for their own good.

The point being, there is a marked difference to the style and message of the articles on the main site, and in the DJB, compared to the trash we see in the forum today. Though I wasn't here when those were written, I probably was dating women at the time, and for all it's worth, the game hasn't changed so dramatically since then that this current outlook of victim-hood is warranted. With the possible exception of divorcees, it's just weak, low-grade men refusing to accept that they have a lot of hard work ahead of them. The articles on the main site are pragmatic; this forum at the moment is literally worse that LoveShack, which I took a very brief visit over to the other day. I'm not even joking.

I think the legitimate posters here can weather a bit of in-fighting and debate. Real men can deal with that; that's the nature of a forum, as opposed to a blog. What gets very tiresome is talking someone down off a cliff, only to come back the next day to find them all back on top of the fcking cliff. Offering assistance seems like a waste of time, so more experienced members are dropping like flies.

The attitude is completely counter-productive to the cause. There are other forums where there isn't half the b!tching going on and the conversation is on point. Like I said, when you have more b!tching going on here than at a place like LoveShack, you've got a problem. Only mods can sort that out. The regular members have tried, but it hasn't worked. There are literally more guys here interested in moaning about women than seducing them, right now.

I've been pretty consistently here for four years and can assure you, the quality has diminished drastically in the last two years. Back then, newbies (mainly) humbly came looking for advice. We had at least half an ounce of respect The new breed think they know it all and just want to trash talk. There is no difference between calling another member a fagg0t and calling all women hookers. The message and vibe and fall out is exactly the same; if not worse when women are being referred to.

If women are so difficult to get along with and tolerate, how come I hit a count of 80 two weeks ago; with 5 already in 2017? But sure, these crybabies can keep telling me (and the others like me) that they are the ones who know better :D And you mods can keep letting them until there is literally no respect or value left.

Not crying about crying. This is my observation.
Atom Smasher has wisdom in his word and speech.... He is right about people having issues, having a phase, either getting back up or crashing

But TheMonkeyKing is right.

Trolling, Whiner etc... have always been around... except they either went away or the MARKET of SUSUAVE (aka the strength of our DJ community would bring balance)....

However, now its 80% of the post are done by 4 posters who repeat the same, insults when given advice.... they don't want to be helped or are really doomed...

Personnally, I doubted by ''kind'' to them because being Kind wont help

Either way, nobody love complainers.... and Atom Smasher and TheMonkeyKing have both the same answer: Ignore them and/or move on

So Winners that's what they do.... they leave SoSuave to somewhere else that has a higher value and more positive outlook on life THAT support them

By leaving crybaby being the front page of the website... you attract them, diminishing the social value of SoSuave and your publicity revenues...

Is it a phase? Maybe... but every where has a tipping point

The Gold is being covered by too much dirt... slowly leading it to be History.

For everything else: There is the ignore button (which is a member added value)
 
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