Whatever happened to kino?

[Nathan]

McQueen, there are no subtle hints to be given. The way you show a girl you like her is by being respectful, considerate, keeping your hands to yourself, and not looking at other women when you’re out on a date with her.

This is an excerpt from a Doc Love article on the front page of sosuave.com.

My question ... what the fvck happened to kino?

Doesn't that sound like an AFC dating style?

I thought you were supposed to establish your sexual attraction early on?

Comments?

 

[VIVAlasVEGASBaby]

hummm....

You have the link? and are you surre this is one of doc love's answers??

 

[M2k961]

I think he means that in a "no ass and boob grabbing like a pervert" sort of way. You cant deny kino's success.

 

[hardwork]

Discussion

 

[Walden]

Nothing happened to Kino. Doc Love couldn't pimp his way out of a wet paper bag.

 

[Craig Reeves]

Actually, I don't care for kino early on...

I don't really care for kino myself, really.

 

[Nathan]

I've just been under the impression that it's important to give off the "I want to sleep with you" vibe (not in the sense that you are an animal and that's all you can think about) to keep yourself out of the FriendZone....

Someone asked about the link. It's on sosuave.com, front page, article entitled "When To Make Your Move" or something like that. And yes, It's Doc Love.

 

[SexPDX]

Originally posted by Nathan

Doesn't that sound like an AFC dating style?

Yes, because it is. Scrap everything you ever learned from Doc Love. The only thing he ever said worth paying any attention to at all is "be a challenge" and he is trying to parlay one good piece of advice into a career. Plus, the guy drives a PTCruiser and owns a poodle.

-PDX

 

[MVPlaya]

got kino?

Check it out: The Art of Omni-Kino, that's what happened to it!

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by VIVAlasVEGASBaby
hummm....

You have the link? and are you surre this is one of doc love's answers??

Yeah, that quote is a bit suspect especially since it's just an exerp and could easily be read out of context. This could easily be done if someone has only read select articles by Doc Love and have no experience with the full System.

 

[Ratisson]

This is what i've been saying all along. KINO IS USELESSS.

THese guys think Doc Love is in isiot because they'd rather listen to their overblown ego.

Their way of dating doesn't work because they're way is based on wishful, thinking , emotions and false hope.

Listen to what Doc Love says, he's the real expert, these guys no nothing because their amateurs, who are afraid to see the truth of things.

I say scrap everything that THEY have taught u. I Use to listen to these guys preech on women, but then i found Doc love. His way is better.
So keep ur hands to urself, because its shows her that u got class, aren't desperate, and it makes her feel more comfortable. plUS U WONT TURN HER OFF.
U will never hear a KINO FAILURE story because no one has the guts to come here and say that IT DOESNT WORK.

U gotta watch the things that u read into regarding dating advise.
Thats why i only listen to doc love.

Remember: Doc LOve interviewed tjousands of women by asking "Why do u stay with one man versus the other?", these guys havent done that. So take ur pick on who u want to believe.

-RAtisson- who's glad he's not brainwashed by these idiots on this stupid ass website.

 

[Jay_VCU]

Surveying women doesn't prove ****. Women lie their ass off. You do what works, not what a women says you should do. Women say they want nice guy, but they all go for me.

LOL

 

[DeepBlue]

Originally posted by Ratisson
This is what i've been saying all along. KINO IS USELESSS.

So keep ur hands to urself, because its shows her that u got class, aren't desperate, and it makes her feel more comfortable.

That is true with some women in some situations, not true with others.

The real problem comes from wanting to rely on absolute rules like "never do this" or "always do that" in an area of life that does not lend itself to absolute rules. Social interaction is not the same as programming a computer.

Absolute rules are fine for keeping children safe from harm: "NEVER cross when the light is red" "NEVER talk to strangers" etc.

But rules like that are crude and too limiting for adults. It is expected that through experience an adult will learn about the exceptions and develop his judgement about when he should or should not do those things.

Regarding kino, some women in some situations will respond better to a gentlemanly hands off approach while some women in some situations will respond better to certain forms of kino. Don't try to get around the need to develop and exercise your judgement by expecting some simplistic rule to tell you how to act with all women in all situations.

plUS U WONT TURN HER OFF.

Actually if you keep your hands to yourself all night with a woman who is expecting you to make your move, then you will turn her off. That is why learning about when and how women DO want to be touched is a mind blowing concept for newbies. Some newbies might start out by being too "grabby", but most newbies on this site are more likely to start out with the opposite problem of being overly focused on not doing anything wrong for fear of upsetting their date.

In the process of being super careful to not do anything wrong they will come across about as dull and lifeless as a wet noodle. Those are the guys who end up feeling like a woman "owes" him something at the end of the night just because he worked so hard to be a respectful gentleman all night. Then, when she doesn't "put out" the guy tells himself that she's a bytch, so he can blame her instead of facing the fact that in "not doing anything wrong" he is not doing anything right either.

U gotta watch the things that u read into regarding dating advise.
Thats why i only listen to doc love.


-RAtisson- who's glad he's not brainwashed by these idiots on this stupid ass website.

First you say you "only listen to Doc Love", and in the next sentence you say you're glad you're not brainwashed by idiots on this site?

If you listen to ANY one source of advice exclusively then you are brainwashed yourself. It's okay to listen to everybody, but take it all with a grain of salt and temper it with YOUR experience and judgement. That is how you will develop an "inner guidance mechanism" and learn to rely on your own judgement so you aren't dependant on other people's advice or simplistic rules.

DeepBlue

 

[wolfie]

lol
doc love's web site seems to be covered with pictures of Caprice Bourret. It's like he couldnt be bothered finding pics of any other models to feature. Also.. I notice he doesn't actually qualify himself as ever being successful with women, instead just talking about how he's 'interviewed women'. Wow, I can walk around and interview women too but it doesn't make me a pick up guru.

 

[Lothario]

Kino works, end of story!

Not to mention, why wouldn't you want to be touching a woman's body?

Here's an example of Kino working for me this past Sat night.

HB9 is in our group of five whom I've never met. We arrive at the party and hit the bar. I go Vodka Red Bull, she goes Vodka Cranberry. Drinks in hand we start shooting the breeze. I notice she removes the knit sweater she was wearing and is fondling her hair. Sweet Jesus I was ready to bend her over right then. But I kept my cool and noted the positive body language. So we keep chit chatting and in one of those "No! Are you serious?" sort of reactions to what she said, I gently grabbed her forearm just above her wrist like I was going to have to reprimand her. It was quick grab and quick release but the release sort of slipped off. Just a little, I didn't want my fingers trailing down her arm cuz that would be a bit too aggressive. Girls like subtlety. I kept doing this sort of stuff until next thing you know, the night end and we're making out in her car and I've got her digits. Being in the group of five sort of hindered any efforts at scoring. But no worries, all in due time.

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

Doc Love generally gives good advice and I use to be a huge fan of his but after reading the bible and applying it to action i have become disillusioned with him. Many of his techniques sound like they would work hypothetically but do not work in reality.

To prove my point just watch blind date or any of the other t.v. dating shows. You'll see guys initiate kino AND SCORE!!

Doc Love states "Do not touch your date, if she is interested she will begin to touch you."

As a student with a bachelors degree in Sociology I can tell you that you cannot predict human behavior on a micro level 100% of the time. Women expect you to make all the moves. The only thing women initiate is the breakup.

Also, i've noticed that Doc Love never talks about sex in any of his articles. How are you supposed to get laid or kiss her without touching her first??

 

[Walden]

Doc loves policy is to take ten billion women out and only continue with the ones that show massive interest level. That's bullsht! He doesn;t say what to do if the girl doesn't touch you (ie like most women she's waiting for you to start business).

Seriously any moron can mack ongirls if he only pursues those with sky high interest level, as DJs we should be training toward getting any girl.

 

[bp1974]

Seriously any moron can mack ongirls if he only pursues those with sky high interest level, as DJs we should be training toward getting any girl.

This comes up too often.

Doc Love's system (similar to Anti-Dump's Machine) works. No two ways about it. But you have to be one of his audience. He is preaching to guys (usually older) who want to find a keeper. That's why everything about his System is designed to qualify the bazillion girls you date, weeding out all except the ones that you are likely to be happy with over the longhaul. He says 'No Kino' because he wants you to see if she kinos you first. He is qualifying for High IL.

Most younger guys can't use Doc Love's System because they're not looking for what he's offering. They either want to be able to bang any girl they like the look of, to date multiple girls, or just to get a first date and lose their V. In which case, using Kino first makes sense.

The advice has to be seen in context. If you are trying to find a wife, don't kino early on. If you're trying to get laid that night, lay it on thick and heavy.

 

[Walden]

BP1974! Holy frijoles! You just explained what his system's for, I totally didn't get it until now!

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by wolfie
lol
doc love's web site seems to be covered with pictures of Caprice Bourret. It's like he couldnt be bothered finding pics of any other models to feature. Also.. I notice he doesn't actually qualify himself as ever being successful with women, instead just talking about how he's 'interviewed women'. Wow, I can walk around and interview women too but it doesn't make me a pick up guru.

I'm guessing that you have only read his articles and not dropped the duckets for "The System." His articles are only snippets of the whole System theory and works in reinforcing the information contained in the system.

I suggest talking to people who spent the money and consistently use the methods of the system. The successful ones will tell you not only that the Doc knows his stuff, but the price of the system is well worth it.

I take the impressions of detractors who only read Doc's articles with a grain of salt. If they aren't serious enough to try the System (which has a unrestricted money back guarantee), why would I consider them as someone who could give qualified advice?