What you think? Would a Super CHAD get this reply from her?

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So i asked this cougar coworker who i've been flirting mutually with (she's hot) , if "she wanted to smash tonight" (we haven't had sex), she agreed... i told her i'll text her the location/meetup place...she said "just like that john..?"

2 hours later, i text her the address of the hotel and told her to bring some drinks

30 mins later get a long text, "hi john, I'm fine with where you see this relationship of ours is going, but i feel like a call girl". Would a super chad receive this text?, was this approached incorrectly?

The next day she asked
latina cougar: "so, what happened to the hotel room? did you get refunded those are expensive? i'm willing to pay half" etc etc

So i told her
Me: "hey Lisa, two things for the record, #1 you're not even close to a call girl, you're just a TEXT girl, don't get ahead of yourself!! (she laughs out loud). #2, that wasn't a booty call, i asked you 5 hours ahead"

Any experiences, thoughts, welcome. Ty
 

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Let's start by stating that being direct is the best way to go. A+ there.

Could you have been more subtle and fun with it? Absolutely. C- there.

Would a super "Chad" receive such text? Yes, there is a possibility. There is never (in dating or in life) a black-and-white, one size fits all answer. Every connection and interaction is different.

To wrap it up, you made it sound very transactional. That can turn women off. God, even I would be turned off and I am man. Learn to enjoy the sexual tension build-up. Spend more time in the process that leads to sex. As I mature, I realize I enjoy the whole sexual tension build-up (and the challenge to turn the woman on) more than the sex itself. Sex is just the release of that tension.

PS: This has been said before but avoid women in your work space. I know when the opportunity presents most men will be weak in the flesh but man it can turn into weeks and months (if not years) of trouble for 1 hr of sex. Not worth it in my books but you do man.
 

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@Modern Man Advice highlighted the problem you had.

Being direct is always a good thing, but directness does not equal bluntness. You were completely blunt. No finesse. No buildup. Just "show up here and let's bang." I would have asked her to join me for a drink prior and then teasingly told her not to rush me - something to be playful. Remember women want to feel wooed. Even ones that just want to fvck.
 

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So i asked this cougar coworker who i've been flirting mutually with (she's hot) , if "she wanted to smash tonight" (we haven't had sex), she agreed... i told her i'll text her the location/meetup place...she said "just like that john..?"

2 hours later, i text her the address of the hotel and told her to bring some drinks

30 mins later get a long text, "hi john, I'm fine with where you see this relationship of ours is going, but i feel like a call girl". Would a super chad receive this text?, was this approached incorrectly?

The next day she asked
latina cougar: "so, what happened to the hotel room? did you get refunded those are expensive? i'm willing to pay half" etc etc

So i told her
Me: "hey Lisa, two things for the record, #1 you're not even close to a call girl, you're just a TEXT girl, don't get ahead of yourself!! (she laughs out loud). #2, that wasn't a booty call, i asked you 5 hours ahead"

Any experiences, thoughts, welcome. Ty
You made her feel like a wh0re and turned her off. Has nothing to do with being Chad or not. It was totally transactional. I cringed reading it.

I've never asked a girl to have sex in my life. If you learn to plant the seeds and read women correctly you never need to. You know the answer without asking.

I would have picked a nice intimate bar/lounge across the street from a hotel or in the hotel, got the drinks and conversation flowing, escalated physically, ran my hand between her thighs, took her hand and said let's get a room.

Women like to be seduced. You don't need to tell them exactly what's up, they know.
 

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I actually think that’s fine. The woman is a cougar in her 40s.

No passion, no patience for a woman in her 40s. Now if she was in her early 20s, then a a man can be more subtle. But in her 40s? Honey, you got 10 seconds to take your clothes off or get out of my face.
 

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I actually think that’s fine. The woman is a cougar in her 40s.

No passion, no patience for a woman in her 40s. Now if she was in her early 20s, then a a man can be more subtle. But in her 40s? Honey, you got 10 seconds to take your clothes off or get out of my face.
i forgot to say, she's 54. I Just have my specific type rare types.
 
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Way to be bold, but you have got to be a little more calibrated and less crass ha!

You can allude to having sex and create an environment where it’s pretty obvious sex will take place but you can’t make most women feel used or like a who.re even if they are.
 

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Sounds like someone who wants to be fired for sexual harassment at the workplace.
Also, other than a trash OLD site like Tinder, is it possible you can get banned from a site if you said "let's smash" to a girl right off the bat and they report you? Gotta watch Match LLC sites. There is a guy on this site who's been banned from the Match LLC sites. apparently they have a way of banning you from all their sites.
 

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I feel like only the biggest slvt on the earth would agree to come over and bang in a hotel room as a first date.

You should've gotten drinks with her at a bar and then invited her to your room once she's had 2 or 3.

In tinder experiments even a male model profile only gets like 40% of his matches to agree to come over directly to smash. (40% is less than half, but still 10x higher than a normal guy would get from that strategy)
 

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I feel like only the biggest slvt on the earth would agree to come over and bang in a hotel room as a first date.

You should've gotten drinks with her at a bar and then invited her to your room once she's had 2 or 3.

In tinder experiments even a male model profile only gets like 40% of his matches to agree to come over directly to smash. (40% is less than half, but still 10x higher than a normal guy would get from that strategy)
But a lot of the women on tinder are not desireable looking compared to a more premium site like match.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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