What would you want to receive as a gift for your birthday?

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That would suck to date someone for years, marry them an then find out they suck in bed because they are inexperienced. I'd rather have a girl that has sucked and fvcked around (safely, I must add) so that when we get it on she blows my mind. I believe it comes down to having the same amount of experience as your gf/bf, so that way no one gets jealous. If I've fvcked 30 girls, I want a girl with around the same number. Inexperienced girls are boring in bed.

As for a birthday present just ask him what he wants. Have him tell you 3 things and get one of them. A water bottle is really a boring present. Get something meaningful that shows you actually like him.
 

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Much respect for your choice pinkfl. Don't listen to these commoners :)
 

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Dude Sam you are the biggest AFC on this board. You are a 19-year old virgin so pretty much anything you say holds no weight.
 

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on topic: get him whatever he likes, so that means valuable sports stuff and video games for all guys, or something specialized based on his hobby

if he likes anime, buy him the DVD box set of all 300ish episodes of dragon ball z remastered

if he likes...technology, custom build him a new kickass computer from a website

if he likes... exotic cuisine or fancy dining, take him to a red lobster for the latter, a sushi joint for the former.

if you know nothing about what he likes.... throw him a surprise party with his friends and family

pinkfl said:
I'm about to let you in on a little secret.
This is legitimate, top secret stuff.
Don't spread it around because the world might fall apart...

Sexuality is a spectrum.
For those of you who don't know what that means, I'll break it down for you.
Some people are highly sexual. They NEED sex many times a week, sometimes more. They are highly motivated by that. Men and women alike.
Some people are not. They are very "meh", or "take it or leave it". It's just not what motivates them. Some are asexual. Again, men and women alike.
Most people fall somewhere in between the two on this spectrum. And everyone is completely justified in where they fall, because that's just how they are.

Where you fall on this spectrum will determine your long term compatibility with someone else.

In any case, you are free to disagree with me, but you're not dating me, so it's not affecting you, and really, nothing you can say will make me change my decision or stance on the matter. In addition, disagreeing with me just proves we wouldn't be compatible, which again, doesn't really matter.
I watched an episode of house where the guy was asexual due to the illness he had and how it affected his body(hormones or brain chemistry or something) and he found an "asexual" girl,

as it turns out she wasn't asexual, she just liked him enough to indefinitely abstain and pretend she wasn't into sex either(he got fixed at the end so they probably started doing it)

that is one rare scenario where it's the guy, it's far more likely that you call the shots in the relationship and are dictating the terms to HIM and he thinks he has to follow(AKA, you're dating a beta)

can you be sure that if tomorrow you said "I'm horny let's do it on the couch grab the chocolate syrup from the fridge and I'll get the jumper cables from the garage" that he wouldn't be all for it? on the off chance that you can be sure, are you sure he's not gay? sick?

TenOfSpades said:
Darwin begs to disagree. Pretty much anybody between the ages of 16-30 should be raging for sex. If there was this magical spectrum we wouldn't be here today. People want sex, you just are denying your urges due to some religious BS. You cannot sit here and say "Nope, Im asexual don't have urges, neither does my BF"
one or both of them could be gay, or asexual

contrary to what the liberal media would tell you, both of those things are unnatural defects contrary to biology and logic.
 

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pinkfl said:
I want to wait because I only want to please my future husband, and not every Tom, ****, and Harry that wants to date me along the way.
You're just rationalizing this because this is what you want to believe.
One question, though: how can you tell for sure YOU will enjoy sex and so you'll be able to please the guy? What if you find out you're frigid?

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I want him to feel confident that his wife has self respect and backbone and isn't "easy".
He's not getting any from you, do YOU see him as having a back bone?

pinkfl said:
Boyfriend/girlfriend relationships are the lowest level of commitment there is.
Nope, FWB is the lowest commitment level type of relationship.

pinkfl said:
It just means "I promise not to have sex with anyone else until I decide to break up with you".
Do you feel a bit insecure about you bed skills? Don't worry, practice is the key to success.

But to answer your original question, I think the perfect gift for your guy is to have sex with him.
 
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SamTheHobit said:
Much respect for your choice pinkfl. Don't listen to these commoners :)
A virgin master DJ. "Go figure" sayeth the commoners.
Much respect for your virginity, Sam.
 

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Sofomore said:
Dude Sam you are the biggest AFC on this board. You are a 19-year old virgin so pretty much anything you say holds no weight.
This. I actually try my best to skip past anything he says as soon as I realise it's him. Was that sage bloke banned for just being a faggot? If so then why not this guy?
 

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All I'm hearing is you guys like slvtty women, because you can't get anything worthwhile. Am i right?
 

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SamTheHobit said:
All I'm hearing is you guys like slvtty women, because you can't get anything worthwhile. Am i right?
No you're not right. Your posts show little you actually know about women. In your eyes a girl that has been with 2 guys is "tainted" and a slut. Wake up dude. Girls love sex just as much as we do. It's because of judgemental pvssies like you that they are afraid of their true feminine nature- To LOVE sex. They have to hide it, or suppress it, because they don't want to be viewed as "sluts" to the rest of society.

Grow some balls dude. Until you actually get laid I am going to roll my eyes at every post you make. Get out of your hobbit hole and actually go meet girls instead of whining like a little b!tch that there are no virgins, like yourself, left.
 

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SamTheHobit said:
All I'm hearing is you guys like slvtty women, because you can't get anything worthwhile. Am i right?
your definition of slut is far different from ours

but either way some of us have getting laid as a high priority and therefor don't sync well with virgins

besides, lots of virgins are "sluttier" or just as "slutty" than non-virgins, google "technical virgin"
 

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TenOfSpades said:
Darwin begs to disagree. Pretty much anybody between the ages of 16-30 should be raging for sex. If there was this magical spectrum we wouldn't be here today. People want sex, you just are denying your urges due to some religious BS. You cannot sit here and say "Nope, Im asexual don't have urges, neither does my BF"
actually... some of us would be here, it's just that overtime lower sex drives SHOULD be bred out of the population, BUT humans don't really evolve anymore because there is no reason to, so all kinds of random traits pop out in us.

Darth said:
I'm Catholic and I say this- what good is the Bible w/o any context? That's the problem with all the protestant churches. They make up their own interpretations to everything rather than going back to the source (which is not just the Bible-the Bible is a compilation of inspired books but Catholics rely on Canon which is wholly different).

I believe in marriage before sex, btw.
I think the problem is that no one realizes that leviticus only applies to the priests in soloman's temple and that the old testament was cancelled by jesus in the new so if your point can't be found in the new testament then it's no longer a rule to live by.

pinkfl said:
Fine. I'll go ahead and take religion out of the equation.
can you even cite where in the bible it says you can't do premarital? new testament only unless you're jewish in which case that means old testament only no leviticus

pinkfl said:
I want to wait because I only want to please my future husband, and not every Tom, ****, and Harry that wants to date me along the way. I want him to feel confident that his wife has self respect and backbone and isn't "easy".
the former is the real reason, the latter is a bad rationalization,

you don't care about what he wants(I doubt you even asked, I bet you just sprang it on him and he reluctantly agreed), you want what he wants.

pinkfl said:
Boyfriend/girlfriend relationships are the lowest level of commitment there is. It just means "I promise not to have sex with anyone else until I decide to break up with you".
before you ask what can he give to you, first ask what you're givng to him

if you knew a relationship with you was worth committing to you wouldn't need to resort to a sex embargo to get commitment.
 

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Sofomore said:
No you're not right. Your posts show little you actually know about women. In your eyes a girl that has been with 2 guys is "tainted" and a slut. Wake up dude. Girls love sex just as much as we do. It's because of judgemental pvssies like you that they are afraid of their true feminine nature- To LOVE sex. They have to hide it, or suppress it, because they don't want to be viewed as "sluts" to the rest of society.

Grow some balls dude. Until you actually get laid I am going to roll my eyes at every post you make. Get out of your hobbit hole and actually go meet girls instead of whining like a little b!tch that there are no virgins, like yourself, left.
Oh stfu. Enjoy your tainted ho while I have a pure virgin.
 

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Ronaldo7 said:
Have you considered that your boyfriend might just do the smart thing and get a side hoe, while he is in a relationship with you? How can you purchase a car without test-driving it first? I bet he doesn't feel that way and he is forced to wait because you don't want to feel like a passed-around hoe. Mormons man...
He cheats? Then I will leave him. Plain and simple.
I never "forced" him to wait. He freely chose to get involved in a relationship with me. He knew from the very beginning, before we even started dating, that this was how I was. This wasn't a "surprise". If he wants that, that's his choice. No one is forcing him to stay.

You want to use the car analogy? Fine. I'd rather have a brand new car backed by a phenomenal warranty than an old klunker that's been around the lot a half a dozen times. Let's pretend that car is a manual, too. Some inexperienced test driver has probably ground the gears or rode on the clutch when THEY test drove and now the transmission is ever so slightly damaged. But you can't tell when you test drive it...you find out years later.

devilkingx2 said:
can you be sure that if tomorrow you said "I'm horny let's do it on the couch grab the chocolate syrup from the fridge and I'll get the jumper cables from the garage" that he wouldn't be all for it? on the off chance that you can be sure, are you sure he's not gay? sick?
We both want to. We still have those urges, absolutely. But we want to wait more. Or rather, I know that I want to wait more than he does (I know that if I were to say that I changed my mind he would be up for it) but I'm not going to be wishywashy. I made a decision. I'm sticking to it. He's definitely not gay.


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You're just rationalizing this because this is what you want to believe.
One question, though: how can you tell for sure YOU will enjoy sex and so you'll be able to please the guy? What if you find out you're frigid?
You're right. I forgot. No one can learn how to have sex properly unless they've done it before marriage. I'm sure your first time having sex was absolutely phenomenal because you weren't married first. I bet you lasted for hours and she orgasmed so many times you felt like a God.

Or, let's be more realistic. You learned over time. I think it would be cool to learn over time with my spouse.
He's not getting any from you, do YOU see him as having a back bone?
Not sure what you mean by this. No one is making him stay with me other than his own free will. He is under no delusions that he can change my mind on this matter. Again, this was not a surprise. If anything, I respect him more because he's respecting me.

Nope, FWB is the lowest commitment level type of relationship.
FWB isn't a relationship. Duh.

Do you feel a bit insecure about you bed skills? Don't worry, practice is the key to success.
Cool. Glad we agree. I'll just practice with my spouse and we'll get really good at it together.
 

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devilkingx2 said:
you don't care about what he wants(I doubt you even asked, I bet you just sprang it on him and he reluctantly agreed), you want what he wants.



before you ask what can he give to you, first ask what you're givng to him

if you knew a relationship with you was worth committing to you wouldn't need to resort to a sex embargo to get commitment.
You really don't seem to get the concept that he's not forced to be in a relationship with me. The conversation about sex came up way before we started dating. He wanted my opinion and I told him. He still made the decision to pursue me. He knew he wasn't going to change my mind.

What am I giving him? Homecooked meals. Love, support, and compassion. Massages. Interesting conversations and dates. A relatively stable girl that's not foolish about finances, not on any mind altering substances and that came from a two parent household. Sensible advice. I'm attractive and take good care of myself. I'm going to be moderately well off financially when I am done with school (I will be a doctor). If he needs anything, I'm there for him. When he nearly lost his job because the company was downsizing, I was nothing but loving and supportive. I didn't nag or criticize.

What do a I get? A phenomenal person that HASN'T BEEN DAMAGED BY CRAPPY EX GIRLFRIENDS. I get a guy that is loving, supportive, interesting, intelligent. My parents like him and approve of him. He's fun to be around. He is appreciative of the things that I do for him. He does the little things...opens car doors for me, and treats me like a lady. I never told him to do any of these things. He does it naturally. I haven't tried to change him one bit. I appreciate exactly who he is as a person.

Do we have differences? Yes! Of course! We disagree on how we may raise kids, and a bit on religion. He finds certain things funny (guy humor) that I don't like. But that's ok.

As for "can you even cite where in the bible it says you can't do premarital? new testament only unless you're jewish in which case that means old testament only no leviticus"

It's in the 10 commandments. Thou shalt not commit adultery. Look up the definition of adultery: It's having sex with someone that isn't your lawful spouse.

But I took religion out of the equation.
I want to learn how to have sex with my husband. I think it will be more fun that way. No matter what people say, it's not going to change my mind.

There's an entire thread on reddit about people that waited. Sure, some people are unhappy for various reasons...but the overwhelming majority are happy with their decision.

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/14ksom/people_of_reddit_who_waited_until_marriage_what/
 

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If I were to speak candidly Pink just owned everybody...who gives a sh1t what her and her man want to do. Quit being such pr1cks and pushing what you want on other people. You can disagree with her all you want, but I doubt she ll have trouble sleeping over what you guys say....let them do their thing.
 

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pinkfl said:
You want to use the car analogy? Fine. I'd rather have a brand new car backed by a phenomenal warranty than an old klunker that's been around the lot a half a dozen times. Let's pretend that car is a manual, too. Some inexperienced test driver has probably ground the gears or rode on the clutch when THEY test drove and now the transmission is ever so slightly damaged. But you can't tell when you test drive it...you find out years later.
note to self, paint '84 honda civic red, scratch off the H and glue on a horse, sell as million dollar ferrari, find someone stupid enough to buy without test driving.

is that your master plan?

pinkfl said:
We both want to. We still have those urges, absolutely. But we want to wait more. Or rather, I know that I want to wait more than he does (I know that if I were to say that I changed my mind he would be up for it) but I'm not going to be wishywashy. I made a decision. I'm sticking to it. He's definitely not gay.
I understand,

he's beta as hell and has no options, and you're only concerned with what you want.

pinkfl said:
You're right. I forgot. No one can learn how to have sex properly unless they've done it before marriage. I'm sure your first time having sex was absolutely phenomenal because you weren't married first. I bet you lasted for hours and she orgasmed so many times you felt like a God.
how did you know about my first time baby doll?

pinkfl said:
Or, let's be more realistic. You learned over time. I think it would be cool to learn over time with my spouse.
lets see here, 50% divorce rate, 1% chance you'll end up sexually compatible, 99% chance you'll come out of the divorce with a whole lot of his money

hmmm, maybe I can see your point now.

pinkfl said:
Not sure what you mean by this. No one is making him stay with me other than his own free will. He is under no delusions that he can change my mind on this matter. Again, this was not a surprise. If anything, I respect him more because he's respecting me.
he's incredibly beta, if you were dating wayne brady, do you think he'd put up with this?

how about that 40 year old who still works as a mcdonalds cashier and lives with his aging mother in her basement and hasn't gotten laid since disco was this "hip new thing"? would he put up with this?

heartiste and probably rollo would disagree on that last "respect" part too, and they're the experts.

pinkfl said:
FWB isn't a relationship. Duh.
it's a relationship in the same way atheism is a religion, in theory no, in practice yes.

pinkfl said:
Cool. Glad we agree. I'll just practice with my spouse and we'll get really good at it together.
$30 says premature ejaculator
 

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TheException said:
If I were to speak candidly Pink just owned everybody...who gives a sh1t what her and her man want to do. Quit being such pr1cks and pushing what you want on other people. You can disagree with her all you want, but I doubt she ll have trouble sleeping over what you guys say....let them do their thing.
Exception, you're better than that. Let the WK flaming begin in 3....2....1....

She asked for ideas. They were given. Then she hit us all over the head with that information, and basically pissed all over our well thought out birthday present ideas. Mine was a good one, it hurt.
 

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pinkfl said:
What am I giving him? Homecooked meals. Love, support, and compassion. Massages. Interesting conversations and dates. A relatively stable girl that's not foolish about finances, not on any mind altering substances and that came from a two parent household. Sensible advice. I'm attractive and take good care of myself. I'm going to be moderately well off financially when I am done with school (I will be a doctor). If he needs anything, I'm there for him. When he nearly lost his job because the company was downsizing, I was nothing but loving and supportive. I didn't nag or criticize.
I'm not going to lie to you, that's not nearly as impressive as you think it is

if you had said "I'm a hardcore gamer who has beaten the new devil may cry(the crappy reboot) on hell or hell mode and I love the NY giants because they're the best football team" I'd be with you.

pinkfl said:
What do a I get? A phenomenal person that HASN'T BEEN DAMAGED BY CRAPPY EX GIRLFRIENDS.
is that because he didn't talk to a girl until he was 23?

pinkfl said:
I get a guy that is loving, supportive, interesting, intelligent. My parents like him and approve of him. He's fun to be around. He is appreciative of the things that I do for him. He does the little things...opens car doors for me, and treats me like a lady. I never told him to do any of these things. He does it naturally. I haven't tried to change him one bit. I appreciate exactly who he is as a person.
"hey sosuave I need some advice, my wife of 9 years left me and took the kids right after I found out she's been cheating on me with my best friend and brother for the last 3 years, I was always loving, supportive, interesting, intelligent I did the little things like opening car doors and treating her like lady. she didn't even have to teach me I was always like that, I even put her needs above my own by not having any sex with her until she allowed me to and then only in the ways, locations and at the times she dictated, what went wrong?!?!?!"

"women don't like betas, they suck them dry bro."

pinkfl said:
It's in the 10 commandments. Thou shalt not commit adultery. Look up the definition of adultery: It's having sex with someone that isn't your lawful spouse.
lord jesus christ, that only applies if you're married.
 

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When it comes to giving gifts, never waste money on junk. Only give things that hold their value like gold, silver and healthy food.
 

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What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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