What women really want(ed)... from me

MuayThai

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A quick little story about me and becoming a don juan.

When I was an AFC, I had lots and lots of women friends, they all loved me, and they all tried to make sure I was happy so I wouldn't change. Occasionally they’d give little tests like running errands (like getting 6 or 7 cups of tea when I only whent to get one for myself), or putting rubbish in the bin for them. Sometimes I’d stand up for myself and not do what they said, looking back I always think “What a wimp”

Then one day I say "I want a girl", so I go and get one, and get laid I was still clueless afc tho. And then, I find Sosuave, things change, I change, I go a search for more girls, this time a proper woman.

The girls are all telling me;

"Don't bother"
"Girls are bad for you"
"They'll cheat on you"
"There is plenty of time for that later, shouldn't you concentrate on your work?"

And when I did change, and have more and more conquests, they not only hated it, they hated me. Why, you ask?

Was it because they got less attention? No, they got more attention than ever, all the stories and things I learnt I told them with much enthusiasm.
Was it because they where jealous? No, come on guys… I was and AFC, none of them wanted me… back then ha!
Was I an *******/jerk? Not at all, I was fair and just, I didn’t break any hearts, I didn’t hurt/abuse/cheat any woman. I although I was a little… underhand I could justify every thing I done.

It was about control, when I was an afc, they had control over me. And most strangely they knew it, but I didn’t. A woman will never respect a male she can control completely. A woman treating you anyway other than how a man should be treated is a bad thing, and is most likely your fault. You'll find most woman will fall into line when you put your foot down firmly.

Woman learn very early about men and control, how to control men, how to manipulate men. Even my mum done it to me, honestly she would only ever praise me for afc behaviour. And I’m not saying that all the “non-afc” behaviour was bad at all, but when I did it she just ignored me, (which was extremely painful for me as small child) when I was her “gentleman” she’d give me attention and praise, when I was being myself (running round, jumping off the sofa, getting into mischief) she’d ignore me. I can’t imagine how she could be so barbaric to a child, so small and innocent, only being himself within the bounds of common morals. My relationship with my mum is now non-existent, it’s not that I hate her, I simply don’t care.

The moral of these stories is not as simple as “don’t be manipulated”, a womans influence is manipulation (in a sort of way)

What you must do is have control, and a level head, when you have both of these in any relationship, you are free to do anything you want.

Be wise, be free.
 

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Wow I like that. You just made me realize something. Lack of control is total problem. I can't control my emotions, and then in turn they control me and get bored and lose interest. They don't respect that and it becomes to easy for them. You r so right.

So lemme ask u tho, when a girl is not "treating u like a man" as u say. How should u deal with it. Do u just ignore her, tell her? Or does it not matter as logn as u put ur foot down. i always end up apologizing for stuff that wasnt even wrong. No more!
 

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DJinTraining06 said:
I can't control my emotions
Sure you can. You just don't. Maybe you don't believe you can. But you can.

So lemme ask u tho, when a girl is not "treating u like a man" as u say.
If you are a man, women will treat you like one. If they don't, they won't treat you at all.
 

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DJinTraining06 said:
So lemme ask u tho, when a girl is not "treating u like a man" as u say. How should u deal with it. Do u just ignore her, tell her? Or does it not matter as logn as u put ur foot down. i always end up apologizing for stuff that wasnt even wrong. No more!
You can't "put your foot down" with a girl your not going out with, because you have no influence over her.
By telling her, your showing your being effected this is control, being able to sway and change you is a woman objective.

I think the best way to handle a woman not reacting to you right is just not to care. This isn't activly ignoring her, because that just means your effected.
Certain guys can just turn off the feeling of caring, most guys have to go though alot of **** with women not to care, some guys are just born badass and don't care.

You want some advice, i'd find out what makes you effected by women. It could be you can't handle the sexual tension, you get nervous because of inexperiance, it could be your not socially adept blah blah ect.
Find out what it is and find out how to fix it.

For me it was phsical sexual tension, everytime I went to speak to girls, i'd get all tense physically. My mind was fine, I could make jokes and have interesting conversations clearly, but I looked kinda strange, when my hand was shaking, I couldn't controll my feet, got drymouth, could not stop straing at the girls and basically felt like my body wanted to run away.
So I get on it, start to keep my body fit, I go running 5 days a week, I do light lifting (Im big anyways) 3 days a week with the running, and now I feel calm physically talking with women. Now they see I have full controll and they love me.
This basically fixed my girl problems. And this isn't about how I look, I look almost the same, same size ect I just look a little fitter all over I guess.


DJinTraining06 said:
i always end up apologizing for stuff that wasnt even wrong.
This sounds like your nervous and (mainly) self concious. Maybe trying to hard to do the "right thing"? Or create the right appearance?

This sounds alot like me when I was way way younger. Why do you think you do it? I'd like to know for myself.

You need to find out how to relax around women. I mean completely relaxed, like your talking with your buddies, or taking a piss, or eating dinner or just watching tv. You should be chilled.
Anyone you can relax around a woman, handle sexual tension and advance things sexually, will have a girl.

lol that was as long as the original post.
 

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Awesome post!!
 

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"A woman's job is to always try to take control of the man, and a man's job is to never let that happen.".....19yo girl....Very true
 

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Problems arise with low self-esteem targets. They WANT a guy they can control to some degree, it reinforces their self-worth but they will also resent you for not allowing them to have to face their own issues and change. They see you as a drug, they need you around to dote on them, but they hate you for it at the same time. Greater benefit comes from controlling emotions and being uncontrollable with women who are self-assured and have got-it-together...watch out for the unstable ones...
 

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Slikandsteel said:
Greater benefit comes from controlling emotions and being uncontrollable with women who are self-assured and have got-it-together...watch out for the unstable ones...
Yeah i'll second that as some really good advice.

Slikandsteel said:
They WANT a guy they can control to some degree, it reinforces their self-worth, but they will also resent you for not allowing them to have to face their own issues and change.
Yeah a kinda paradox; They want controll, but hate it when you give it to them.
I say, keep the ***** hungry. The more they want it the better for you.
 

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Dude, I agree with most of what you say MT, but the whole mom things sounds to afc'ish to me. Truth is most of us got rewarded for being good little boys and ignored for being bad. Some of even got sent to our rooms for being bad. Even if it was your mom's fault do you honestly believe that she had bad intentions for you?

I think you got some issues to be worked out if you want to bring your game to the next level.
 

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SharinganUser said:
Dude, I agree with most of what you say MT, but the whole mom things sounds to afc'ish to me. Truth is most of us got rewarded for being good little boys and ignored for being bad. Some of even got sent to our rooms for being bad. Even if it was your mom's fault do you honestly believe that she had bad intentions for you?

I think you got some issues to be worked out if you want to bring your game to the next level.
Maybe your right.

I should really go into more detail, but i'll save you the long story.

She never did have bad intentions for me, or good ones. She is selfish to the very core of her being, i've never met someone so self centered thoughout my whole life, not to mention childish, she only cared about herself.
The only thing she cared about was herself. She always had a picture of how SHE wanted me, from very young she tried to turn me into this person, a kinda uber son for her to be proud of, problem is i'm not that person, never have been, never will be. She still tried, she'd hide her influnce under the guise of "advice", hid her punishment under the guise of "discipline". The only reason I ever got into this afc **** is because of her, girls used to love me lol before I was old enough to "behave myself".

She is a truly horrible person, she drove my dad away because he wanted to have his own life, her own brother hates her and now one of her children hates her, anyone who has known her long enough hates her. My brother hates her a little less than me, only beacuse he got brought up more by my dad.

You know **** her, why does she deserve forgivness or pity, she only ever done anything for herself, not for her family or husband, so **** her. I only hope the ***** croaks it so me and my brother can have our ****ing dads house back.
 
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