What Women Don't Want.........

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There’s a ton of scriptures, blogs, bulletin boards, articles, books, etc about what women are looking for. Many of said writings have a common theme throughout, that being what women are seeking when it comes to dating and men. It’s seems like the same old stuff, re-hashed over and over again. They just want a nice guy, a sense of humor, confidence, etc. In the world of seduction what they want and what actually reaps beneficial success is counter-intuitive. This paradox can work in ones favor when performed in a creative and fun way. Instead of sounding like a mp3 player stuck in a repeat vocal loop, I thought I might share what women are sick and tired of or what they don’t want. Time and time again (especially online) women are bored of JAG’s (Just Another Guy). Here is a list of what women do not want;

PLAYERS-these guys think they are all that, they make it appear that they are the prize to win over and challenge chics all day long. Most girls spot this; typical wannabe behavior, a mile away and actually go out of their way to avoid these types.

BAD BOYS-dudes gone wild, they often adhere to the careless what the girl thinks philosophy. They don’t spew out any sincere compliments if any, their ******d appearance is the un-kept look with an intoxicating attitude that charms most naive ladies. They seldom have any meaningful, lasting relationships and their so-called bad boy antic lifestyle often comes with a slew of drama.

PREDATORS-you know the types, almost immediately their conversations take on a sexual charge. They lack patience, are anxious to meet right away, crave instant gratification and for them it’s all about seeking validations (gotta get her digits, gotta get some naked pictures, must kiss close, etc). Women almost always avoid these men like an STD.

TOO NICE-these guys just try way too hard, over compliment, tend to get clingy too early on. They are nervous, awkward, lack confidence when it comes to seduction, tend to be indecisive at times, boring, take things way too personal, appear to be in a rush/hurry, etc. Even though the ladies claim they just want a nice guy, in reality being too nice just does not induce sex appeal or anything resembling attraction.

PICK-UP ARTIST-now don’t confuse these types with players. They are more of a hybrid of a really good player and a badboy, with a touch of the nice guy. Women know their whole agenda, they are aware you’re a ladies man, it goes against their better judgement to meet you but they can’t help it. Reveal too much about your lifestyle and the attraction will begin to fizzle, be too mysterious and that too will cause the string to un-ravel. Women begin to question your authenticity when there is even a hint of any tactic, seduction technique, or sexual conquests mentioned.

JERKS-despite that old cliché` that informs men to treat women like garbage, it just ain’t indicative of anything meaningful. The rest of that scenario that people tend to omit is drama will almost always follow. Today’s women seldom put up with derogatory comments, rude or demeaning behavior, continuous, irritating juvenile antics. Displaying anything remotely associated with anger management issues or alpha dog gone berserk, eventually, will end in a parting of ways.
 

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DJ's - Badasses


really women realize the pickup artist?
 

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PLAYERS-these guys think they are all that, they make it appear that they are the prize to win over and challenge chics all day long. Most girls spot this; typical wannabe behavior, a mile away and actually go out of their way to avoid these types.
But isn't this what is taught by Pook? That we are the Great Catch, we are the Prize to be won over? No? Also, I also thought we should challenge chicks all day long to spice up the relationship and to avoid being the Nice Guy.

Also, I don't agree with everything you said in your post.
It's the opposite or everything mentioned the DJB.

Of course, I could be wrong, but well.....
 

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COD,did you write this?

No offence but it's a load stereotypical sh!t, and since when do women have the ability to logically categorize like that? He's either got game and makes her cooze wet or he doesnt. Sorry but this "playing cards" ideal you wrote out with strengths and weaknesses just doesnt carry over into real life that easily.

really women realize the pickup artist?
Yeah if he's a failed "PUA", and if thats the case not a "PUA" is he?. Hence the entire paragraph is bullsh!t.

And why the fvck are you labelling horny losers as "predators"? This is pretty weak of you to put them in the same category as real life monsters, has shades of Oprahesque shaming tactics.

The whole thing just seems Blaaah.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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the predator thing is true i know one kid whos like that, he attracts girls but screws up after the number
 

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its an common theme I keep hearing from women.."you're not a player are you, You are one of those"

Look goto any website(dating) and read any chics profile..they all say words like "no head games, no players.........if your just seeking sex, kindly move on.

What about real life..........been to many speed dating events......same thing, went to a all chics jewelery party........WHAT DID I HEAR TIME AND TIME AGAIN........."we broke up, he was a player, all he wanted was sex"

I can't stand badboy types,...........women hate the game, they hate players and they are tired of it.

DO I ADVOCATE or condone womens concerns HELL NO.........but its just the concensus.

Like today, after work I goto this coffee house........and I do a random opinion opener.........what do the chics say.........I CANT STAND PLAYERS.

Its a universal thought...........so instead of critisizing me relaying a message, I would suggest to get the chics.........USE WHAT WOMEN HATE INTO AN ADVANTAGE.

I PERSONALLY GRAVITATE TO WOMEN WHO SAY THOSE WORDS......AND secure a date quite easily by dissing the player.

Sounds lame but God it works, and those of you that say "dont hate the player, hate the game or you must be doing it wrong.........to that I say.....nope I have heard that phrase from chics over a 1000 times.

Goto match.com plenty of fish, goto a speed dating event, go to any bar on any given night, ASK CHICS POINT BLANK.

YOU KNOW THERE ARE TIMES WHEN ITS OK TO JUST GET INFO FROM CHICS AND GET THIS............actually listen to them.

So next time you hear a chic say those words.....thats your "IN" for an instant opener. Trust me it works.

There are certain things that are universal.....not the exception.

the majority of women ----

hate players, find short men not attractive, dont like it when the guy is overly sexual in the first 30 seconds, too serious too fast, hate it when a guy says hey baby your hot gimme your #, dont like it when the guy calls 50X, asks her what ring size she takes in the first 1-3 dates.

I could go on but its just the consensus.......sure lots of you will disagree and there a dozen methods to go......but U gotta have some common ground..........WOMEN DONT LIKE ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH A PLAYER(mostly online)

Plenty of chics told me......."WE ARE NOT HAVING SEX".........then like 30 minutes later I am banging their brains out. Women say stuff thats counter-intuitive all the time......the token NO..........yet another common ground, the push pull method.......the list goes on and on.

nuff said.......I am late for yet another date with a player hater chic,.......
 

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what is they key then? confidence? power? looks? money? value? social things?
 

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people say one thing and do another

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What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Well when you say "player", "bad boy", "pua", you sound like you have a very bizarre image in mind.
You only talk of clichees, of over-the-top people.

It works, just don't overdo it.
How bout that?
 

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Well screw the opinion opener then, or any tricks. Probably better to just be like "hey how's it going" then just go with the vibe in the moment. Maybe they won't think you're a player then.
 
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COD said:
PLAYERS-these guys think they are all that, they make it appear that they are the prize to win over and challenge chics all day long. Most girls spot this; typical wannabe behavior, a mile away and actually go out of their way to avoid these types.
Supreme:

Yes women do say that but still end up lining up to date us real players. Why? Because your forgetting about the challenge aspect. They want to be the one who lands a REAL player. My current girlfriend: “You looked like a super player who could get any girl in the room.” –Jovina. Yes here she is by my side. As well as many of the other women who knew I was a player. Oh, before you begin, she is on audio file on my podcast shows.



COD said:
PICK-UP ARTIST-now don’t confuse these types with players. They are more of a hybrid of a really good player and a badboy, with a touch of the nice guy. Women know their whole agenda, they are aware you’re a ladies man, it goes against their better judgement to meet you but they can’t help it. Reveal too much about your lifestyle and the attraction will begin to fizzle, be too mysterious and that too will cause the string to un-ravel. Women begin to question your authenticity when there is even a hint of any tactic, seduction technique, or sexual conquests mentioned.
Supreme:

LOL, I wouldn’t call pua’s a hybrid. I would put them as pretenders. Everything is fake with those dudes. Fake stories, fake persona and I agree here with what your saying. Women can see through them. Especially now that the game is being told instead of being sold. MM &Style and all the rest of the tv pick up evangelist have sold this community down the drain for fame and riches and I would do exactly the same thang too for all that money…lol.
 

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TheRealSupreme said:
Supreme:

LOL, I wouldn’t call pua’s a hybrid. I would put them as pretenders. Everything is fake with those dudes. Fake stories, fake persona and I agree here with what your saying. Women can see through them. Especially now that the game is being told instead of being sold. MM &Style and all the rest of the tv pick up evangelist have sold this community down the drain for fame and riches and I would do exactly the same thang too for all that money…lol.
Effects will be negligible on the real men that don't use fake stories, persona, or anything.

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Is this copied and pasted from a match.com article? After reading it I've concluded the only thing women want is the Pope.
 

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From TheRealSupreme:
LOL, I wouldn’t call pua’s a hybrid. I would put them as pretenders. Everything is fake with those dudes. Fake stories, fake persona and I agree here with what your saying.
Are you this guy called "The Player Supreme" (the black guy from ZenMack.com)?
I've seen videos by PlayerSupreme at youtube.com, so if you're HIM, I'm very honored to see you participating in these forums! LOL, you're one of my idol, seriously. :) Your vids helped me a lot.

Anyway, ain't PUAs = DJs? They're the same thing, right? I thought the idea of this forums is to teach us the PUA / DJ mindset. Or maybe I'm wrong?
Mystery is a PUA as well.
 

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COD said:
There’s a ton of scriptures, blogs, bulletin boards, articles, books, etc about what women are looking for. Many of said writings have a common theme throughout, that being what women are seeking when it comes to dating and men. It’s seems like the same old stuff, re-hashed over and over again. They just want a nice guy, a sense of humor, confidence, etc. In the world of seduction what they want and what actually reaps beneficial success is counter-intuitive. This paradox can work in ones favor when performed in a creative and fun way. Instead of sounding like a mp3 player stuck in a repeat vocal loop, I thought I might share what women are sick and tired of or what they don’t want. Time and time again (especially online) women are bored of JAG’s (Just Another Guy). Here is a list of what women do not want;

PLAYERS-these guys think they are all that, they make it appear that they are the prize to win over and challenge chics all day long. Most girls spot this; typical wannabe behavior, a mile away and actually go out of their way to avoid these types.

BAD BOYS-dudes gone wild, they often adhere to the careless what the girl thinks philosophy. They don’t spew out any sincere compliments if any, their ******d appearance is the un-kept look with an intoxicating attitude that charms most naive ladies. They seldom have any meaningful, lasting relationships and their so-called bad boy antic lifestyle often comes with a slew of drama.

PREDATORS-you know the types, almost immediately their conversations take on a sexual charge. They lack patience, are anxious to meet right away, crave instant gratification and for them it’s all about seeking validations (gotta get her digits, gotta get some naked pictures, must kiss close, etc). Women almost always avoid these men like an STD.

TOO NICE-these guys just try way too hard, over compliment, tend to get clingy too early on. They are nervous, awkward, lack confidence when it comes to seduction, tend to be indecisive at times, boring, take things way too personal, appear to be in a rush/hurry, etc. Even though the ladies claim they just want a nice guy, in reality being too nice just does not induce sex appeal or anything resembling attraction.

PICK-UP ARTIST-now don’t confuse these types with players. They are more of a hybrid of a really good player and a badboy, with a touch of the nice guy. Women know their whole agenda, they are aware you’re a ladies man, it goes against their better judgement to meet you but they can’t help it. Reveal too much about your lifestyle and the attraction will begin to fizzle, be too mysterious and that too will cause the string to un-ravel. Women begin to question your authenticity when there is even a hint of any tactic, seduction technique, or sexual conquests mentioned.

JERKS-despite that old cliché` that informs men to treat women like garbage, it just ain’t indicative of anything meaningful. The rest of that scenario that people tend to omit is drama will almost always follow. Today’s women seldom put up with derogatory comments, rude or demeaning behavior, continuous, irritating juvenile antics. Displaying anything remotely associated with anger management issues or alpha dog gone berserk, eventually, will end in a parting of ways.

So women dont want ANY type of man. Riiight. Nice going there bud.
 

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IMO They want a mix of everything!

Sometimes being a badass is good, sometimes being too nice is okay, if you combine all of those stuff in one persona, but in a genuine way, you'll probably get good results.
 
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