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alright, so i have this chick that ive been working on for a while now and shes definitely in some way leading me on.. (we go to a boarding school just in case youre interested)

i go into her room today and asks if she wants to take a walk or chill in her room or something but she says she has homework (thats not a bull**** excuse, its definitely true, as my friends are in her class and have the same workload). she suggests that we take the walk later on in the evenng.. i go "maybe... but that might not work out for me".

i then go into her friends room and after a long discussion they go: are you interested in her?
i go: maybe... who knows
them: no, really..
me: emm... yeah... or i dont know if i like her.. im interested in her on more than just a physical basis though...
them: ok... do you think shes leading you on?
me: well... yeah maybe.. what do you think?
them: well i think she is... maybe not conciously, but prolly in her subconcious...
me: okay.
them: but i do suggest you talk to her...
me: yeah... maybe i will...
them: yeah, i suggest you go downstairs right now and tell her what you feel.
me: nah, im not the one to let my feelings spill out that way...
them: no, but its good to let youre feelings out...

so we exit the room cuz they have class

me (asking one of them): but you dont really know anything regarding this whole thing, do you?
her: no... i do... im her friend...

anyways, later on... this evening, she came and sat in front of me during some sort of jeopardy like school the school was having. i asked her if she was done with the essay, she said no. so i was like "okay. a lot left?", "well 300 words"... "okay.... but you promised me a walk?".... but nah, she was busy.

i know all the tricks in the book on how to test to see if i can kiss her (arm around waist, touch her face, if she touches her hair its okay to kiss her). BUT

a) does her friends dialogue mean i got a shot?
b) how do i get the oppurtunity to at least try to kiss her? should i come into her room and try that after a nice convo or what?
 
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alright im going to bed in a few.

but ive been a good boy and tried to analyse other peoples problems and stuff.

itd be nice if people would do the same for me.

cuz i mean, what would you think that her friends are implying?
 

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to me it sounds as if she's got her friends testing you

you've done ur job, so leave her alone for a couple of days and ingore her

she will come up to u in the end and make conversation and suggest going for that walk

but don't keep on going on about that "walk" she promised you. pretend it sliped ur mind

And don't go spiling out ur feelings like her friends told u
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Dude, you've got the entire mentality wrong here!

*goes and cries to himself*//im going a bit crazy over this at the moment...

Are you in love with her? How is it possible that her behavior is giving such an emotional response as this. You haven't even kissed her and yet you want to cry. She treats you bad, and yet you want to cry!

but nah, she was busy.

Yeah, because she isn't interrested. This is the second time she turns you down, there should be some bell ringing in your head right now.

i know all the tricks in the book on how to test to see if i can kiss her

Forget those things, focus on the feeling, when you are with a girl try to listen to your own body, can you feel the rapport you are having. How intense is it, how does it make you feel. I don't know why but the stuff you feel is often a resonation of what she feels. One thing is sure, you should not focus on wheter you should kiss her or not, but if you should toss her number away or not.

Your behavior contradicts anything a DJ is. I suggest you read the DJ bible, kill that desperation and be a man is two good post you should read and implement into you life. And the link at my signature is a must read too.

If you are looking at the whole approach you are doing, if we chunk it down to the basic building blocks we see this pattern.

1. You want a girl too like you
2. She is behaving strange in your eyes
3. You want to know what to do to make her like you when she is behaving strange. (fit yourself to her demands)

Does this sound DJ to you? Of course not! I suggest you ignore her, she has had her chances. If she really digs you she wouldn't have a problem writing 300 words later. Being busy is just a lame excuse. Don't let pride force you to pursue her.
 

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listen to lifeforce man, u are no doubt, deserpate. 4 consecutive posts? to save heartache & confusion, i suggest u move on.
 

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no lifeforce, i appeared desperate for a neutral message there cuz i was pretty bored and needed some sort of feedback on what her friends had said to me and why it didnt coincide with what she said.

youre prolly right though. ignoring is the best tool.

i realize i dont entirely fit the DJ criteria, but I mean I am pretty ****y and funny quite naturally (it isnt some sort of mask I really need to put on cuz it just comes).
Then I do not have the world's most player-like facial features. I look sympathetic and understanding (i get told i have nice eyes all the time).
if theres one thing i dont do though, its repetetively being nice to a chick. sure, there might be instances i can think of nothing more apart from them but i really dont think i transmit that desperation (since im so well undestood with transmitting desperation and obvious, strong emotional feelings is not very helpful).

i mean i have tested many things on this site, a few which have really worked, a few that havent.
 

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"no lifeforce, i appeared desperate for a neutral message there cuz i was pretty bored and needed some sort of feedback on what her friends had said to me and why it didnt coincide with what she said."

"*goes and cries to himself*" that really seems like a neutral message. And again you are getting it wrong, you should never be bored, if you are you are too lazy. If you are bored you go skiing, you read a book, watch a game, hang out with your friends or climb a mountain!

Stop try to understand women, they will tell you all sorts of crap. And you'll be confused. Look at the results. Let me help you:

You wanted a date
She didn't want to date you
=
She isn't interrested or is playing you, either way she is a NEXT!

"youre prolly right though. ignoring is the best tool."

I meant NEXT!

i realize i dont entirely fit the DJ criteria, but I mean I am pretty ****y and funny quite naturally (it isnt some sort of mask I really need to put on cuz it just comes)."
Then I do not have the world's most player-like facial features. I look sympathetic and understanding (i get told i have nice eyes all the time).


Then do something to get closer to fit the DJ criteria, you wouldn't have to ask questions such as this if you did. ****y & funny is just a tool, it isn't being a DJ. A DJ is to have the right mentality, you might be C&F but your mentality of pleasing her is getting in the way. It is simple, if she doesn't like you then she is undateable. If you spend time trying to do convince her to like you or to date you then she is the prize and you are the hunter.

if theres one thing i dont do though, its repetetively being nice to a chick. sure, there might be instances i can think of nothing more apart from them but i really dont think i transmit that desperation (since im so well undestood with transmitting desperation and obvious, strong emotional feelings is not very helpful).

Rise above understanding and wanting chicks, improve your life. I used to read every little sign women did or analyzed their conversations with me. Now they either like me for who I am and the constantly improving me, or they don't. If they don't I NEXT! If they acts fishy I NEXT! If they like me and I like them, great. Its as simple as that.

i mean i have tested many things on this site, a few which have really worked, a few that havent.

Just read the posts I stated in my last post and implement those. It is what you are doing right now that counts for something.
 

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Originally posted by Lifeforce

"*goes and cries to himself*" that really seems like a neutral message. And again you are getting it wrong, you should never be bored, if you are you are too lazy. If you are bored you go skiing, you read a book, watch a game, hang out with your friends or climb a mountain!
Hate to bring it to you but that *goes and cries to himself* comment was more of a lame joke than an expression of desperation. i just needed some help in analysing what her friends had told me. im gonna let it by and start ignoring her. im sure she will start crawling back to me if i just say "hi" and smile at her and reply to whatever she tells me and shell suggest that walk sooner or later. if she doesnt, then oh well....
 

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alright im going to bed in a few.

but ive been a good boy and tried to analyse other peoples problems and stuff.

itd be nice if people would do the same for me.

cuz i mean, what would you think that her friends are implying?


So what about that comment?

Look - lifeforce have given you some good advice here - and he's spot on with the info about your 3 posts in a row.

Your WAY to into this chick - and your posts cry of desperation.

READ THE BIBLE.

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