What to do with douchebag managers at mall stores when trying to game women

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Blackdragon and I were gaming women the other night at Abercrombie and Fitch and this manager called for this HB Asian 8 right before I was about to close her. She worked there and was working while talking to me. Later, I went back. She was not there but I talked to these other HBs who worked there. He came up to me and told me I needed to buy something or leave. Have any of you experienced DJs dealt with a douchebag manager or had someone call security on you in the mall when trying to game chicks? Any advice would be most appreciated! Thanks.
 

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He's probably just pissed that you're sarging all these HB8+'s that he could never get when he was your age and now he works as a manager for a ****ty, chain-retail store in a mall.
 

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The JustMan said:
Blackdragon and I were gaming women the other night at Abercrombie and Fitch and this manager called for this HB Asian 8 right before I was about to close her. She worked there and was working while talking to me. Later, I went back. She was not there but I talked to these other HBs who worked there. He came up to me and told me I needed to buy something or leave. Have any of you experienced DJs dealt with a douchebag manager or had someone call security on you in the mall when trying to game chicks? Any advice would be most appreciated! Thanks.
Try not being so transparent. Act like a prospective customer. Better yet, be one. Chances are if the manager recognizes that you're sarging so does the hb. Try stuff on, ask for opinions, build rapport... make the #close seem incidental.
 

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The JustMan said:
Blackdragon and I were gaming women the other night at Abercrombie and Fitch and this manager called for this HB Asian 8 right before I was about to close her. She worked there and was working while talking to me. Later, I went back. She was not there but I talked to these other HBs who worked there. He came up to me and told me I needed to buy something or leave. Have any of you experienced DJs dealt with a douchebag manager or had someone call security on you in the mall when trying to game chicks? Any advice would be most appreciated! Thanks.
Same thing has happened to me, and honestly, I never once read or heard of a policy that says, a store can kick someone out for not buying anything. If that was the case, I doubt many people would shop at all..period. I think a lot of it has to do with two things (mainly.) First thing being, the managers or whoever is in charge not having enough busy work or a life in general, to take time to mess with someone gaming women. I can understand it if you were shop lifiting. Second thing being, they could seriously be jealous of the fact that they can't approach the staff that work there or customers. (I work retail and know for a fact, at the clothing store I work at, managers can't date or be outside-of-work friends (even) with anyone on staff, be it a manager or just one of the many teenagers/20 somethings employed.)

Don't take it personal and hit up bookstores. Also try local colleges (if there are any) or places as simple as Wal-Mart or Best Buy. The sky is the limit! :)

Believe me, I've been kicked out of stores for the exact same reason. Oh well. Remember, "You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs. "

P.S.
Great thread. I doubt many people would have wanted to openly share experiences of being in these situations, but I bet the real-legit DJs have similar stories.
 

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He's probably just pissed that you're sarging all these HB8+'s that he could never get when he was your age and now he works as a manager for a ****ty, chain-retail store in a mall.
I agree with this comment in full and would add that he is a bit upset that his administrative status isn't helping him land the ladies either.
 

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Never--

because Im like so alpha. The store manager would automatically take his role as beta and herd HB's my way.
 

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HA! Actually Blackdragon said we should just go. I actually got in the dudes face and told him I was seriously considering buying this ultra small womans fur vest for myself. I was real direct and alpha about it, but I than said out loud, "Alright, let's go! I don't want to buy any of the sh!t in here anyways!" The dude just looked at me as I walked out the door. I just felt like ***** slapping the guy. That guy seriously needs to get laid!
 

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HA! Actually Blackdragon said we should just go. I actually got in the dudes face and told him I was seriously considering buying this ultra small womans fur vest for myself. I was real direct and alpha about it, but I than said out loud, "Alright, let's go! I don't want to buy any of the sh!t in here anyways!" The dude just looked at me as I walked out the door. I just felt like ***** slapping the guy. That guy seriously needs to get laid!
It's his store and your the creepy fvcks that actually go to department stores for the sole intention of finding women to "seduce". Then have the nerve to try to out-alpha him or some sh!t. I don't think he's the guy that needs to get laid.

Just accept it and go to a bar or something instead of department stores if you want women.
 

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It's his store and your the creepy fvcks that actually go to department stores for the sole intention of finding women to "seduce". Then have the nerve to try to out-alpha him or some sh!t. I don't think he's the guy that needs to get laid.

Just accept it and go to a bar or something instead of department stores if you want women.
I agree. If I managed a store, I'd have told them to leave too. These bytches aren't getting paid to sit there and flirt. It's one thing if you come in there to browse, but if your sole purpose is to hit on my workers, you can take a hike.

Did you ever think maybe the women told the manager to tell you to leave? And you really think it's "alpha" to smart off to a store manager???? LOL
 

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I actually do shop and buy things too. I flirt with the women that are helping me. I fly in under the radar and approach these women asking there opinion on certain clothes to buy. However, if I am attracted to them and they are just standing there folding clothes, which they do at Abercrombie and Fitch, I will talk to them. I usually approach them asking things like "hey, what kind of clothes are in style?" "Does this look good on me?" "What could I wear with this?" "Does this match?" "What looks better on me, this, or this?" I don't just walk up and say "hey, how are you doing? Can I interest you in a fvck?" Seriously, I do not think these openers I use make me seem creepy or insincere. It is normal for men and women to flirt, and any guy who cannot allow his bytches to have a casual flirting conversation with a customer while working when business is slow is an insecure person. Who knows, he may even be one of the flamers on here...
 

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If I was the manager, I'd kick you guys out. Those women (employees) are paid $20/hour to work, not to chat up potential husbands.

Also, even if you did plan to buy something, most teenagers are pretty suspicious. Its a stereotype, but hey, thats life.
 

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The JustMan said:
HA! Actually Blackdragon said we should just go. I actually got in the dudes face and told him I was seriously considering buying this ultra small womans fur vest for myself. I was real direct and alpha about it, but I than said out loud, "Alright, let's go! I don't want to buy any of the sh!t in here anyways!" The dude just looked at me as I walked out the door. I just felt like ***** slapping the guy. That guy seriously needs to get laid!
You are pathetic and should work on becoming a real man, because this post makes you look like a foolish child.

The dumbest thing you wrote was: "I was real real direct and alpha about it"

You are not alpha and never will be. I don't care what this forum says... Guys like you will never be alpha.

:box: :box: silly 20 years olds that act like they are 15:rock:
 

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If I was the manager, I'd kick you guys out. Those women (employees) are paid $20/hour to work, not to chat up potential husbands.

Also, even if you did plan to buy something, most teenagers are pretty suspicious. Its a stereotype, but hey, thats life.
You think they get paid $20/hour? Try AT LEAST half that! :crackup:
 
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I quote from Payton Kane's S&C program, which focuses on girls at malls and clubs - look at the girl for something to pick on, if she's a HB girl.

Go up to her in a ****y and arrogant attitude and say out loud,

"Hey girl, what's up?" in a tone like you dont care what she thinks and are confronting her like a bad boy or alpha male. And start joking about something she is wearing -- (i.e. what's with the clothes, are you colour blind or something? and start laughing at her). She'll likely laugh back or say something funny, then just tell her "you know girl, I think we've got chemistry - write your number down girl". She looks at you and hesitates, just say "your lost" and NEXT.

I have not field tested it yet - but since you sarge allot, I'm curious if you are familiar with that 'routine', I hear you can close a girl in less than a minute if you do that.

The key to help your game is a FAST-CLOSE, Mall HB's are the best, because they are board, want some excitement during the day, and you are the challenge that gets them on their toes or makes their heart beat faster. Be a bad boy / alpha-male and do just that.
 

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I quote from Payton Kane's S&C program, which focuses on girls at malls and clubs - look at the girl for something to pick on, if she's a HB girl.

Go up to her in a ****y and arrogant attitude and say out loud,

"Hey girl, what's up?" in a tone like you dont care what she thinks and are confronting her like a bad boy or alpha male. And start joking about something she is wearing -- (i.e. what's with the clothes, are you colour blind or something? and start laughing at her). Close her right away and say "we've got chemistry - write your number down girl". She looks at you and hesitates, just say "your lost" and NEXT.

I have not field tested it yet - but since you sarge allot, I'm curious if you are familiar with that 'routine', I hear you can close a girl in less than a minute if you do that.

The key to help your game is a FAST-CLOSE, Mall HB's are the best, because they are board, want some excitement during the day, and you are the challenge that gets them on their toes or makes their heart beat faster. Be a bad boy / alpha-male and do just that.
What kind of bull**** is that? lol at "your lost." It's your loss. And what you said it pretty ****ed up.
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
I quote from Payton Kane's S&C program, which focuses on girls at malls and clubs - look at the girl for something to pick on, if she's a HB girl.

Go up to her in a ****y and arrogant attitude and say out loud,

"Hey girl, what's up?" in a tone like you dont care what she thinks and are confronting her like a bad boy or alpha male. And start joking about something she is wearing -- (i.e. what's with the clothes, are you colour blind or something? and start laughing at her). She'll likely laugh back or say something funny, then just tell her "you know girl, I think we've got chemistry - write your number down girl". She looks at you and hesitates, just say "your lost" and NEXT.

I have not field tested it yet - but since you sarge allot, I'm curious if you are familiar with that 'routine', I hear you can close a girl in less than a minute if you do that.

The key to help your game is a FAST-CLOSE, Mall HB's are the best, because they are board, want some excitement during the day, and you are the challenge that gets them on their toes or makes their heart beat faster. Be a bad boy / alpha-male and do just that.

That was funny:cheer:
 

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Let me get this straight. Your idea of picking up women is coming up to them acting like you want a throw down?

BWHAHAHAHAHA
 

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To me:

I think I will stick to sarging customers then the girls who work at the store.
Most girls get paid to be friendly to you. I prefer the customers, that way they aren't getting paid to be friendly towards you and you can see what kind of person they really are.

Me and The JustMan will avoid the store we got kicked out of. And hit clubs and different malls. Some of these posts are quite true.:D
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
I quote from Payton Kane's S&C program, which focuses on girls at malls and clubs - look at the girl for something to pick on, if she's a HB girl.

Go up to her in a ****y and arrogant attitude and say out loud,

"Hey girl, what's up?" in a tone like you dont care what she thinks and are confronting her like a bad boy or alpha male. And start joking about something she is wearing -- (i.e. what's with the clothes, are you colour blind or something? and start laughing at her). She'll likely laugh back or say something funny, then just tell her "you know girl, I think we've got chemistry - write your number down girl". She looks at you and hesitates, just say "your lost" and NEXT.

I have not field tested it yet - but since you sarge allot, I'm curious if you are familiar with that 'routine', I hear you can close a girl in less than a minute if you do that.

The key to help your game is a FAST-CLOSE, Mall HB's are the best, because they are board, want some excitement during the day, and you are the challenge that gets them on their toes or makes their heart beat faster. Be a bad boy / alpha-male and do just that.
And this is coming from someone who made apporach journal and made no apporaches ?
And from a 30 year old virgin LMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :crackup:
 
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And this is coming from someone who made apporach journal and made no apporaches ?
And from a 30 year old virgin LMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :crackup:
I'm looking for people to field test some theories, that's all. Try it out and see if it works. This is from Payton Kane's Seduce and Conquer.

It's not in my personality to do this, I'm experimenting with the bad boy smile.
I tried smiling at a girl yesterday, but didn't write an approach journal on it as it seemed to trivial. I check out her a$$, she looked at me, and I gave her a dirty smile, but looked back at my mom who was sitting opposite to me, and left with my mom.

If you can do a fast-close, by all means go for it - more ideas here are better than less. I spent $ 99 US for that advice too, so it's good, from a real dating expert. http://www.seduceandconquer.com
 

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