What the hell is wrong with this *****?

[The Mad Ghost]

Short.

I've been seeing this chick for about 4 weeks, always sexual and making out, hit off the first dat pretty well, usually always flirting and talking about what we wanna do to eatchother on the phone.

So last week sunday, I haven't heard from her atall.

I spoke to her yesterday, she said she has been at her cousin's house - due to her cousin's uncle dying. We agreed on a date last week Sunday, she gave grave excuses for not calling me up for her to see me like she usually does.

This week, she has been giving me the could shoulder - not calling, no texts, not returning calls etc, how should I go about punishing her, I'm not sure if I'm in a shyt-test stage or its genuienly interest levels deteriorating.

How should I punish her, ignore or flake on her?

 

[Kirro]

Ignore. Take your mind off this chick & I mean genuinely no pretend bull****.

 

[Hakuna]

Ignore & give your attention to other girls.

 

[cavedweller]

Mad,

She has lost interest in you...Blow her off and move on..

cavedweller

 

[Mr. Goods]

Don't let her get to you. For now, I'd say live your life the way you normally live it, don't even think about her. If she's interested, she'll come back.

In the same way TV Presidents say, "I don't negotiate with terrorists," you shouldn't negotiate with girls games. There's no way to win, and you spend too much time thinking about it.

 

[Kailex]

Short.

I've been seeing this chick for about 4 weeks, always sexual and making out, hit off the first dat pretty well, usually always flirting and talking about what we wanna do to eatchother on the phone.

In case anyone missed it...

Mad Ghost, in all of this, I didn't see you say something vital:
"We had sex".

Did you or did you not? It seems like you didn't and that might be why SHE moved on before you did.

It seems like there was a lot of talking, planning, dreaming, fantasizing... without any of the acting out of it.

 

[The Mad Ghost]

In case anyone missed it...

Mad Ghost, in all of this, I didn't see you say something vital:
"We had sex".

Did you or did you not? It seems like you didn't and that might be why SHE moved on before you did.

It seems like there was a lot of talking, planning, dreaming, fantasizing... without any of the acting out of it.

Kailex,

You're half right dude. The reasons we haven't had sex yet is because of HER religion. She doesn't even allow her pants coming off. Why am I dealing with her? Because there are other sexual options in dating, not just thrusting you're way through every girl, however, I wanted to explore this side of my game to see how far I could get. No, it's not platonic. I'm testing MYSELF, me.

So it astounds me, how she, a mandatory muslim chick who wears two pairs of pants at 29 degrees has now LOST INTEREST. Saying that, when a girl loses interest, theres some subliminal messages and signs show beforehand, that, I haven't seen.

The only possible thing I could round up, was, everytime we would engage in sexual encounters, it'll be her, starting it off, or her initiating the escalation. My reasons for not being a sexual guy with her, because she gives me LMR everytime I get into my wild-card side (Me "Get you're nickers off - Her "I'm not you're property yet, marry me and you can do what ever you like to me"), not because I'm a frigid freak.

She just hasn't contacted out of the clear blue sky?

 

[nismo-4]

Kailex,

You're half right dude. The reasons we haven't had sex yet is because of HER religion. She doesn't even allow her pants coming off. Why am I dealing with her? Because there are other sexual options in dating, not just thrusting you're way through every girl, however, I wanted to explore this side of my game to see how far I could get. No, it's not platonic. I'm testing MYSELF, me.

So it astounds me, how she, a mandatory muslim chick who wears two pairs of pants at 29 degrees has now LOST INTEREST. Saying that, when a girl loses interest, theres some subliminal messages and signs show beforehand, that, I haven't seen.

The only possible thing I could round up, was, everytime we would engage in sexual encounters, it'll be her, starting it off, or her initiating the escalation. My reasons for not being a sexual guy with her, because she gives me LMR everytime I get into my wild-card side (Me "Get you're nickers off - Her "I'm not you're property yet, marry me and you can do what ever you like to me"), not because I'm a frigid freak.

She just hasn't contacted out of the clear blue sky?

Bro, the other half is the fact that she's just not that into you. She's using cold shoulder, not could shoulder. (Just a typo you had in your post.)

If this girl was into you that much, ya'll woulda been f**kin'. But she's giving all this LMR and what not, seems like she's either a d**ktease or isn't attracted to you. That's my ruling.

Case closed. Move on to another girl.

 

[The Mad Ghost]

I have to call bullshyt on that one.

You didn't read the thread judge Nismo, she is Muslim, she is NOT GOING TO HAVE SEX. Period. I'm okay with that, It's for me, not her.

She just called me, as I'm typing this.

Said shes going to Saudi Arabia for a month next week, hinting that she has ''all this time on her hands'', so I played along and said awesome, get packing - I'm leaving for Brazil in July anyway, so I just said I was getting organized for that.

She said I haven't called her, and that I was a stranger to her bla bla, what bullshyt is that?

P.S, I'm sick and tired of some guys here buckling down to the last resort that ''shes just not that into you or she isn't attracted to you'' as asif all shyt hit the fan, Nismo yous aid ''Y'all would be ****ing already'' Nah dude.

 

[squirrels]

Why do you want to "punish her"?

This chick is obviously wound too tight for living. You wanted to see how far you'd get...you found out. Now move on.

 

[Cinamon]

Mad, I think if she is muslim, the reason she probably hsnt been in touch is because the mourning process after a death is very long. Depending on where she originates from this can be off varied lengths. If say for example the person died a week ago on Saturday, then from the time of death up until either 4 or 11 days after the funeral their is a continuous wake at the persons house or mosque. People continue to come pay their respects etc.

The fact that she hasnt even called or texted in this duration is rude, and you should let her know that it isnt accpetable behaviour, and it comes down to a bit of decent courtesy and respect.

 

[2crudedudes]

She said I haven't called her, and that I was a stranger to her bla bla, what bullshyt is that?

This, after you stopped calling her, I assume. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume you showered her with attention, and she figures she has you eating out of her palm. When the attention goes away, she contacts you to get some again.

P.S, I'm sick and tired of some guys here buckling down to the last resort that ''shes just not that into you or she isn't attracted to you'' as asif all shyt hit the fan, Nismo yous aid ''Y'all would be ****ing already'' Nah dude.

Have you at least fondled her tits? If not, then Nismo's spot on. Its not "last resort", it really is "she's not that into you".

Worst case scenario: maybe she IS devout Muslim and you're just wasting your time because she ain't gonna put out (hand jobs, or otherwise)

 

[vatoloco]

Okay, I'm confused. At the beginning you say that you talk dirty on the phone. Then you say you haven't had sex yet but later on you know you know you're okay with it never happening and being okay with it.

What is it that you want out of this girl?

If she knows she's not gonna have sex with you and is engaging sexual talk without giving you at least a HJ/BJ, sounds to me like she's just your average c0cktease with a hint of AW...

 

[Kirro]

Okay, I'm confused. At the beginning you say that you talk dirty on the phone. Then you say you haven't had sex yet but later on you know you know you're okay with it never happening and being okay with it.

What is it that you want out of this girl?

If she knows she's not gonna have sex with you and is engaging sexual talk without giving you at least a HJ/BJ, sounds to me like she's just your average c0cktease with a hint of AW...

Good luck trying to get the OP to understand this.

 

[The Mad Ghost]

Okay, I'm confused. At the beginning you say that you talk dirty on the phone. Then you say you haven't had sex yet but later on you know you know you're okay with it never happening and being okay with it.

What is it that you want out of this girl?

If she knows she's not gonna have sex with you and is engaging sexual talk without giving you at least a HJ/BJ, sounds to me like she's just your average c0cktease with a hint of AW...

She has given me a handjob, but thats about it.

I want to see how far I can go with her, dry humping (without clothes) is the endgame for me.

 

[I'm in the Mood]

I want to see how far I can go with her, dry humping (without clothes) is the endgame for me.

Okay you need to forget about her and find another girl.

"Dry humping without clothes" is what you really want? Don't kid yourself. You want a girl to fvck and you know it.

Her "religion" has caused you to drop your goal and settle for less.
This is not acceptable because you've given her your power.

Just think about it, "Dry humping without clothes"? That sounds fvcking boring and pointless if it's not going to go anywhere.

How should I punish her, ignore or flake on her?

Punish her? You want to punish her?? Dude, stop. This has AFC written all over it.

If you actually "punished" her, all this would do is piss her off. Now if you actually enjoy pissing people off, go ahead, but intentionally giving someone the "cold shoulder" is stupid. Plus, you don't know why she didn't return your calls/texts. She may very well have not been giving you the cold shoulder for all you know. There are like a million possible reasons, so it's best that you forget about it and accept the truth: you really don't know why she didn't return your messages.

So all you've gotten in a whole month with this girl is a handjob? Four weeks and a handjob. Lol that's religious girls for ya. I mean that's not completely bad, at least you're getting more than the guys who don't even approach, but wouldn't you rather be having sex?

Well, to solve this problem, you now have two choices:
1) Continue to try to have sex with this religious girl (& not get anywhere) or 2) Find another girl who is willing to fvck and doesn't give you this same bullshvt.

The reality of "religious" girls is that, if they're actually faithful, you have to turn them on all the way, to the point where they can't resist you any longer. There is a window of opportunity for this, and her flakiness is a sure sign that this window has closed.

 

[vatoloco]

Mood, if that's want then go for it man!

However, to me, it'd be too much time and effort to game a chick if you know she's never gonna fvck you. You could use that time to game another chick that digs you and that you dig WITH the possibility of a normal, fulfilling sex life.

The choice is up to you.

 

[The Mad Ghost]

Update

It's all said and done, I was right to trust my gut extincts.

After a short lived phone conversation (I called her, for a last straw on what the fvck was going on).

Mad Ghost: Whats up, why didn't I see you last Friday, everything good with you?
Her: Umm, yeah, I was busy.
Mad Ghost: Really, yeah well you could of atleast returned my phone calls?
Her: I know, I was really busy Mad Ghost
Mad Ghost: Nobody is THAT busy, where in a week, they can't return a phone call or text? I'm all of a sudden IRRELEVENT to you, is that right dude? You know what, go and get you're planned marriagew that you fear so much whilst you're towel headed uncle or dad gives you whips across the back for defying it.
Her: What the Fvck. Yeah you're irrelevent
Mad Ghost: Really, the same guy you was making-out with not so long ago, notice How I don't venture to see you, but you venture to see me all the time? Yet I'm the irrelevent one, hahahaha.

From there on there, I think I just lost my cool. I let her see an emotion out of me and it really p1ssed me off that I defeated MYSELF like that, so I hanged up and said Okay, bye, let her get the last word in.

2 MINUTES LATER,

Text;

" Why are you being like this for Mad Ghost!, I wasn't saying you was irrelevant it was a joke! I did have a lot of time on my hands, I just didn't think to use it on you, and now I have to plan for my holiday and finish of work and stuff "

What beats me, is the fact that I did not see this coming, and I should've bailed out wayyyyy beforehand. Whats my lesson learned though?

 

[DJjazzyJeff]

"
What beats me, is the fact that I did not see this coming, and I should've bailed out wayyyyy beforehand. Whats my lesson learned though?

The lesson to be learned is when you ask for advice and all of the experienced members tell you to move on, 90% of the time they are going to be right. It's up to you whether you want to bet on something that has a 10% chance of happening the way you want it to. The good news is that ignoring everybody and pushing forward and failing gives you practical experience and the "hard way" of learning is a much better teacher than a bunch of guys you have never met saying "move on or you will feel much more pain." Now you know that you can generally trust what the experienced guys are saying to be true MOST of the time. Failure also helps you to temper your emotions and deal with pain much easier. Good luck in the future.

 

[vatoloco]

Oh God! I literally cringed as I was reading that... err... "interesting" exchange.

Instead of breaking it down line-by-line, let me just give you the best advice I could give you:

Learn to keep control of your emotions.

I'm done here. Good luck to you man!