Sorry for the long post but I need to give a full explanation.
I'm studying (we're in our early twenties) and I met a girl in my class that I like. The problem is she has a boyfriend. If she didn't I would have made a move in a heartbeat. But she does. Now I'm torn whether to make a move or move on.
1. We got on really well from the beginning. At first I took my usual tack of being witty and quite ****y (being a bit mean to keep them keen) which usually does the trick. She was the only girl that answered back and the first few weeks of the course we pretty much had an ongoing argument (so much so that she ignored her best friend that had come down to visit her at a party we were at). Everyone calls us the "old married couple" and asks when we're going to get it together. It's that obvious.
2. Apparently I ignored her on the first day when she said hello (that really pisses her off and she goes on about it a lot). I found her attractive, sure, but I had other possibilities as well.
3. She didn't really mention her boyfriend (she alternates between calling him by name and boyfriend) until a few days after we met. She often talks about how he's not a proper boyfriend and how she passed the "obsession stage" ages ago. I met the boyfriend (he's the jealous type) and he's an arse. He deserves to lose her (but he has a much higher status, with the money that goes with it, than me). Apparently, she told him that I was gay (an amateur move on her part) which he blurted out in front of everyone. But she has been going out with him for 3 years (they met in the first week of university and I suspect he is her "first" if you know what I mean)!
4. Once a guy started hitting on her (she was a bit drunk), she turned him down flat. Then he asked whether she would go out with me (he had noticed us flirting before) and she said "I can't I have a boyfriend".
5. She keeps asking me who the guys think is the most attractive girl in the class (classic attention wh0re behaviour no doubt). I put her down a few times because this kind of thing annoys me. Once she stormed off in a huff and texted me that she used to care what I thought about her but not anymore and that she wasn't "interested". She brought up the C word and tried to get me to admit that I cared about her. For example, when we had an argument and I stormed off she texted me: "if you care please give me a call". Another occasion she said something nasty about a friend of mine (a girl in the same class) and we had another falling out. Then we made up in the bar (with the rest of the class there) and she started crying about how I wouldn't defend her like I defended the other girl. Incidentally, she's always going on about how the other girl's my lover and how I'm touching the other girl inappropriately. She gets very jealous (when I call her on it she says that she is "joking" but she still keeps on doing it).
6. I didn't really touch her much at the beginning because she didn't really touch me first at all (this is a rule for me). But then one day she got a bit drunk and asked me (in front of everyone in the class) why I never touched her! So then I changed game plan and started touching her a bit (no hugs really because that would be too obvious). When she gets drunk she holds my hand and, strangely, keeps trying to get me to touch her stomach ("I have a hard stomach, feel it" or "I'm really hungry" while she puts my hand on her stomach).
7. I was actually gearing up to make a move at the end of term party (drunkeness providing the plausible deniability). However, she was flirting with another guy (who is in my class too) at the party (and for a few days before, ever since his girlfriend went on a trip abroad - curious!). She would be laughing at all his lame jokes and he would be touching her all over. She was drunk and not making the advances at all. She sat on his lap and he rubbed her thighs and she said nothing. He rubbed his crotch against her ass and she said nothing. Then he started a fight against a guy in our class and called her flatmate a "c***". After that she went after him and put her hands around his neck (as if to beckon him in for a kiss). The flatmate took her home because it looked like she would go all the way with him. Needless to say she completely ignored me. Since then she has said that she doesn't fancy him but a few days before she had put him second on the class "shag list" (omitting me but as I was sitting there I'm not surprised).
9. After that incident, we all went to a dinner party. At the party she kept bringing up the incident and saying that I thought she was a slut. She had also arrived at the party with the guy she had been messing around with at the end of term party (I later discovered that they had arranged to have a drink beforehand by tripping them up). I sort of ignored her and at one point she came up to me to talk and I walked off. Then she ran after me and PUNCHED ME IN THE NOSE in front of everybody! After that she started crying that I was ignoring her and went home. Although throughout this she was flirting with her flatmate by text. Incidentally, she often talks about him and flirts with him but he's not interested in her (although I'm pretty sure she's interested in him).
9. At first I thought she was an attention wh0re, then I thought she was being genuine and now I'm not sure after what happened at the party. I'm a bit pissed off to be honest because I gave up on another girl in the class which I like too to see if she would dump the boyfriend (which she hasn't even though they live in different cities and see each other once every two or three weeks!) and now that other girl has a boyfriend.
So what should I do? Should I make a move? Women are like monkeys after all are they not? I don't want to waste time (she's moving away in July). I'm not sure if I want a long relationship but I really want to have her as a conquest out of principle almost (especially after all the hard work I put in and the chances I missed to pursue her).
I'm studying (we're in our early twenties) and I met a girl in my class that I like. The problem is she has a boyfriend. If she didn't I would have made a move in a heartbeat. But she does. Now I'm torn whether to make a move or move on.
1. We got on really well from the beginning. At first I took my usual tack of being witty and quite ****y (being a bit mean to keep them keen) which usually does the trick. She was the only girl that answered back and the first few weeks of the course we pretty much had an ongoing argument (so much so that she ignored her best friend that had come down to visit her at a party we were at). Everyone calls us the "old married couple" and asks when we're going to get it together. It's that obvious.
2. Apparently I ignored her on the first day when she said hello (that really pisses her off and she goes on about it a lot). I found her attractive, sure, but I had other possibilities as well.
3. She didn't really mention her boyfriend (she alternates between calling him by name and boyfriend) until a few days after we met. She often talks about how he's not a proper boyfriend and how she passed the "obsession stage" ages ago. I met the boyfriend (he's the jealous type) and he's an arse. He deserves to lose her (but he has a much higher status, with the money that goes with it, than me). Apparently, she told him that I was gay (an amateur move on her part) which he blurted out in front of everyone. But she has been going out with him for 3 years (they met in the first week of university and I suspect he is her "first" if you know what I mean)!
4. Once a guy started hitting on her (she was a bit drunk), she turned him down flat. Then he asked whether she would go out with me (he had noticed us flirting before) and she said "I can't I have a boyfriend".
5. She keeps asking me who the guys think is the most attractive girl in the class (classic attention wh0re behaviour no doubt). I put her down a few times because this kind of thing annoys me. Once she stormed off in a huff and texted me that she used to care what I thought about her but not anymore and that she wasn't "interested". She brought up the C word and tried to get me to admit that I cared about her. For example, when we had an argument and I stormed off she texted me: "if you care please give me a call". Another occasion she said something nasty about a friend of mine (a girl in the same class) and we had another falling out. Then we made up in the bar (with the rest of the class there) and she started crying about how I wouldn't defend her like I defended the other girl. Incidentally, she's always going on about how the other girl's my lover and how I'm touching the other girl inappropriately. She gets very jealous (when I call her on it she says that she is "joking" but she still keeps on doing it).
6. I didn't really touch her much at the beginning because she didn't really touch me first at all (this is a rule for me). But then one day she got a bit drunk and asked me (in front of everyone in the class) why I never touched her! So then I changed game plan and started touching her a bit (no hugs really because that would be too obvious). When she gets drunk she holds my hand and, strangely, keeps trying to get me to touch her stomach ("I have a hard stomach, feel it" or "I'm really hungry" while she puts my hand on her stomach).
7. I was actually gearing up to make a move at the end of term party (drunkeness providing the plausible deniability). However, she was flirting with another guy (who is in my class too) at the party (and for a few days before, ever since his girlfriend went on a trip abroad - curious!). She would be laughing at all his lame jokes and he would be touching her all over. She was drunk and not making the advances at all. She sat on his lap and he rubbed her thighs and she said nothing. He rubbed his crotch against her ass and she said nothing. Then he started a fight against a guy in our class and called her flatmate a "c***". After that she went after him and put her hands around his neck (as if to beckon him in for a kiss). The flatmate took her home because it looked like she would go all the way with him. Needless to say she completely ignored me. Since then she has said that she doesn't fancy him but a few days before she had put him second on the class "shag list" (omitting me but as I was sitting there I'm not surprised).
9. After that incident, we all went to a dinner party. At the party she kept bringing up the incident and saying that I thought she was a slut. She had also arrived at the party with the guy she had been messing around with at the end of term party (I later discovered that they had arranged to have a drink beforehand by tripping them up). I sort of ignored her and at one point she came up to me to talk and I walked off. Then she ran after me and PUNCHED ME IN THE NOSE in front of everybody! After that she started crying that I was ignoring her and went home. Although throughout this she was flirting with her flatmate by text. Incidentally, she often talks about him and flirts with him but he's not interested in her (although I'm pretty sure she's interested in him).
9. At first I thought she was an attention wh0re, then I thought she was being genuine and now I'm not sure after what happened at the party. I'm a bit pissed off to be honest because I gave up on another girl in the class which I like too to see if she would dump the boyfriend (which she hasn't even though they live in different cities and see each other once every two or three weeks!) and now that other girl has a boyfriend.
So what should I do? Should I make a move? Women are like monkeys after all are they not? I don't want to waste time (she's moving away in July). I'm not sure if I want a long relationship but I really want to have her as a conquest out of principle almost (especially after all the hard work I put in and the chances I missed to pursue her).
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