What SHould I do!!! She says she doesnt want a Relationship.Or F/buddy

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Ok iam seeing this and girl and we already fooled around.. an

everytime i call her to do something or she calls me we go out and ususually end up making out or something..

but this one time when i had her in my room i was trying to bang her.. so i start the usuall routine.. rub her breasts with no resisitance .. but after awhile she gives me some more resistance..


then she just says no we shouldnt.. and then she says we should go so on the way to her house..

we talk about why she doesnt wnat to go for it.. and she says because .. Iam dont want a relationship.. right now.

then i say what about F/BUDDYs and she says no that is bad that is not cool... its just for sex that is wrong.



so she ends up kissing me at the end and I tell her we doing this some other time.. and she says maybe..


WHAT SHOULD I DO?
 

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NEXT her. why put up with that BS? This is 2003. Girls are putting out everywhere. Don't settle for this cold fish. Im gettin more tail than I can keep up with, and you should too.
 

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Totally agree with the previous post. She's giving you the runaround, and you shouldn't have to stand for it. She probably knows that she can have her way with you anytime she pleases. Break free! We know you can. :D

NEXT.
 

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Your approach to the situation is all wrong, bruh!

When it comes to sex, "women" have to know that they will not feel like a slut after the fact. You have to make it seem like it is her idea or it's destiny by using this technique of her given in to her desires. We have to remeber that sex for women is MENTAL NOT PHYSICAL. You can make out all day if you want but if she is not stimulated mentally, that's as far you will go.

Here's some great information from the book "The Art of Mackin" .

The main reason a female throws out "objections" is because she doesn't want to come across as being ho'ish or sexually undisciplined. Females want you to give them a reason to have sex with you........they just don't want to give in to any of your "lame lines" that everyone else uses.......the right vibe has to be sent if you want to get her in the bed. -- Tariq Nasheed

Technique to used in a potential sexual encounter:

Mack: You're a mature lady, right?

Female: Yes

Mack: You know what's best for you and your happiness, right

Female: Yes

Mack: And we have a good vibe going on so far, right?

Female: Yes

Mack: So, if a brother stepped to you that was better for you, that you had a genuine interest in , that had a genuine interest in you, and had a good vibe going with ya, that's man you would wanna be down with, right?

Female: Yes


Bam! you got the draws

By asking a female these type of questions, you give her no choice but to be in agreement with you, because it would make her silly if she were to disagree. This especially when you questioning a female's maturity......Whatever you do, don't act is if you are desperate for the "coochie"......beggin and pleading only makes you look like a buster. --Tariq Nasheed


You have to do a better job with stimulating her mind if you want to get the drawls. I feel you on that she seems like she want it but then she bails. This is where your DJ skills should kick in.
 

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then i say what about F/BUDDYs and she says no that is bad that is not cool... its just for sex that is wrong.
Well duh! You can't just tell "let's be fackbuddies" She'll never say yes (assuming some level of decency)


She told you herself - "just for sex is wrong". So all u have to do is to add some feelings to it. Check why she resists. It may be slut factor, stds, that time of the month etc. Deal with the problem and she's yours.


Don't next her yet. Try again, but before u talk with her about feelings and stuff so that she does not feel abused.
 

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------Off topic: Funny how I made a thread very similar to this one and barely got any ****ing replies at all. I know that makes me sound like a selfish ******* but I it really does piss me off. Oh ****ing well, I guess I can't force you *****es to reply to my threads.--------


toot I don't think you are challenging her enough. That's what my problem was with my oneitis. I would see her all the time and didn't make her cherish my presence. I treated her like a queen for no good ****ing reason at all other than the fact that she was hot, and all I got out of it was exactly what you are getting...rubbing, groping, kissing, touching..but never any licking, sucking, fingering or ****ing. I have learned that you can do any of the first 4 things with a ho and many of them will still only consider you a friend. The first four actions I listed are things that indicate you cherish her, while the last four actions are her giving something back to you. If you get her to start thinking that she is lucky to be with you, she will give in. If she's resisting you, it's probably because you haven't given her the notion that you are someone special enough for her to want to **** and "risk" adding another guy to her "slut" list. I am pretty sure thats how I got my FB (that and the fact that she actually was a slut) to become my FB, but nothing worked on the oneitis and I gave up on her a few nights ago.

Some *****es don't care about the whole slut thing and will gladly be your FB, while others won't do it at all. I think there are two reasons why she told you she doesn't want a relationship with you or to your FB: you made your feelings too obvious to her and she doesn't feel challenged by you so she won't give it up, OR she's a ****tease ***** like my oneitis is/was and just wants to make sure you'll stay friends with her, so she'll tease you but will stop you when it seems like it's going to start passing 2nd base.

I posted this before reading Ice Cold's response, so let me add something.
.....Ice Cold made a very good point. You can't straight up ask a girl, "What about being fvck buddies?" That's a really bad move you made by saying that. That's like when I was telling the oneitis that I straight up want to be more than friends with her. I think it gets interpreted as "instead of me assuming that he wants my *****, I now know for sure that all he really really wants is my *****."

When I became FBs with a girl last year, there was no discussion like this at all. The first time we hooked up, she was very tipsy off vodka but I was flirting with her before she started drinking, so I was thinking that maybe the only reason why we hooked up was because I was the only one who showed direct interest (and cause she was drunk). But the night after that, she called me and told me "you better not go anywhere tonight," and she came over to my house an hour later and we ****ed again. Just like that, I knew I now had a FB, cause I never said anything to her about having a relationship, and she came over with full intention of just having sex. It was a beautiful thing.
 
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So what should i do??

++++++MORE INFO ABOUT this topic++++++


bECUASE before that we did do it in my car but it was really short and quick..a week earlier..


Now to what happend when she rejected me couchie
that night.. That could be a reason for her not in the mood to ****
maybe..




First when i Got her in my room she saw my obsession with christina aguilira i had posters everywhere...


2. sHE Saw a porno dvd in my book drawer

3,She mentioned she didint shave her legs when i was carresing them she giggled too..

4.she didint do her hair like all the time we go out..



POSTIVE THINGS I GOT FROM HER..

Good things i think i did.. is i brought a sprite drink in while we were smoking weed.. and she said i have a bad aftertaste after smoking.. and i said "WELL THATS WHY I BROUGHT THE SPRITE"

AND she said awww thats soo sweet..




bUT a good thing i saw from her.. is she let me Caress her boobs and then she started licking my ear and making out..



but after that she just said no.. and didint let me go any further..





SHOULD I CALL HER TO GO TO A MOVIE.. to SHOW her i dont just want couchie.. Because every time we have went out i put the moves on her....


Or should i just ignore her.. because i see her at school...

by the way she just moved here.. so she is pretty bored most of the time.. when she doesnt go to school or work...

I NEED SOME GOOD ADVICE
 

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Re: So what should i do??

Originally posted by toot86
...AND she said awww thats soo sweet..

i don't know--usually you hear those words and the tone of voice they use means they see you as a sweet little puppy (easily trained..)

bUT a good thing i saw from her.. is she let me Caress her boobs and then she started licking my ear and making out..

but after that she just said no.. and didint let me go any further..


You say "I understand." Back off a little and kiss her a little more seductively. She got her ASD on record and should be Ok after that.

I NEED SOME GOOD ADVICE

Now you want the "GOOD ADVICE"--???

In all caps?

Careful, you're just inviting the guys to cut loose with every sarcastic wise-@ss remark that they can pull outa their @ss. Not to say you didn't ask for it...

I was gonna say something about one-itis, but I think you should explain to her what fvck-buddy status means and the benefits she can enjoy. Once she sees it logically, she should put out without needing all that highschool foreplay, ya' know?

;)
 

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Re: Re: So what should i do??

Originally posted by TesuqueRed
because when b4 she got out of my car when i left her at her house she frenched me some more...


So what do you think I should tell her to come with me to the movies.. As friends..??




so is she just playing.. or should i just invite her to go see a movie.. and tell her "as friends" yet still put moves on her??
 

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Sorry, I'm an ******* and I can't resist.

Give her some space.

Don't be so willing to kiss her. If she wants to kiss you, say with a casual smile "I thought we were friends."

Never ask a girl to actually be a **** buddy , girls hate that label, it makes them feel like they're being used. Just have sex with them, you don't need to name her.

Know for yourself what you want. Don't panse around wanting a relationship or a **** buddy. Decide which it is you want.

Don't ask for sex, talk with your body. If she's comfortable with it she'll let you advance, if she doesn't, don't talk about it with her.


I can't believe I have to tell people this stuff sometimes.
 

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Re: Sorry, I'm an ******* and I can't resist.

Originally posted by DYDevotee
Give her some space.

Don't be so willing to kiss her. If she wants to kiss you, say with a casual smile "I thought we were friends."

Never ask a girl to actually be a **** buddy , girls hate that label, it makes them feel like they're being used. Just have sex with them, you don't need to name her.

Know for yourself what you want. Don't panse around wanting a relationship or a **** buddy. Decide which it is you want.

Don't ask for sex, talk with your body. If she's comfortable with it she'll let you advance, if she doesn't, don't talk about it with her.


I can't believe I have to tell people this stuff sometimes.


So ok .. i Made some mistakes... Do you think i can make it up...

Here is what iam going to do..

DONT MENTION F BUDDY OR RELATIONSHIP.. SAY WE ARE FRIENDS

STILL KEEP PUTTING THE MOVES ON HER..


DONT TALK WHILE PUTTING THE MOVES ON HER....
 

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NEXT her. why put up with that BS? This is 2003. Girls are putting out everywhere. Don't settle for this cold fish. Im gettin more tail than I can keep up with, and you should too.

That is gold . i love it reading it over and over again sounds so damn funny.

that's all the reason i need to ever next a chick lol.
 

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Originally posted by felony
That is gold . i love it reading it over and over again sounds so damn funny.

that's all the reason i need to ever next a chick lol.
LOL thanks. Its soooo true. The biggest, BIGGEST (and to be honest, only) mistake i ever made during my days before I found this site was that i held on to duds WAY to long. The best thing i ever learned from this site was the power of NEXTING. Its such an awesome thing to know, that you DO NOT have to put up with ANY BS whatsoever. Chik not putting out? No good in bed? Not putting out enough? NEXT. I can go find another. I always have. Its such an awsome and powerfull feeling to be in control, to be in the drivers seat in a relationship.
 

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No don't next her. You got the woman, thats half the game. Once you have the owman don't throw her away. Reassure her, let her know you will be there, comfort her, say you care about her, say yourr not sure about her cause you heard she was a player, tell her you don't wanna get hurt, Then tap dat a$$. Say what you have to say reassure her but tappin the a$$ is the priority
 

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Originally posted by princelydeeds
No don't next her. You got the woman, thats half the game. Once you have the owman don't throw her away. Reassure her, let her know you will be there, comfort her, say you care about her, say yourr not sure about her cause you heard she was a player, tell her you don't wanna get hurt, Then tap dat a$$. Say what you have to say reassure her but tappin the a$$ is the priority


Thats sounds like a good idea... So should i just use a pattern.. or just go for the "i will not hurt you line"


one more question what if I Mixed it up and used GM style on this girl from now on ..

would that cause a negative or could it spice things up..
 

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Originally posted by toot86
Thats sounds like a good idea... So should i just use a pattern.. or just go for the "i will not hurt you line"


one more question what if I Mixed it up and used GM style on this girl from now on ..

would that cause a negative or could it spice things up..
You read too much. Use the DJ bible as guide but not as a manual. You have to read this chick. If she wants to fvkk but the problem is you haven't made her feel comfy, then I think you need to make her comfy. Tell her you care and you will try to make it work out. Tell her shes the sweetest coolest chick you've met in a while. Tell her you see the sex as taking things to the next level. I would turn the hurting her thing around on her, I would say can you promise you wont hurt me? Id say as pretty as you are im sure alot of guys approach you all the time, how do I know you wont hurt me and leave for the next guy who comes along.

Just don't next her before you bone her. What a wast e of game to next her just cause she want to feel comfortable about screwing you. patience my friend patience.
 

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Originally posted by princelydeeds
You read too much. Use the DJ bible as guide but not as a manual. You have to read this chick. If she wants to fvkk but the problem is you haven't made her feel comfy, then I think you need to make her comfy. Tell her you care and you will try to make it work out. Tell her shes the sweetest coolest chick you've met in a while. Tell her you see the sex as taking things to the next level. I would turn the hurting her thing around on her, I would say can you promise you wont hurt me? Id say as pretty as you are im sure alot of guys approach you all the time, how do I know you wont hurt me and leave for the next guy who comes along.

Just don't next her before you bone her. What a wast e of game to next her just cause she want to feel comfortable about screwing you. patience my friend patience.

Ok sounds good but now .. I felt wierd of giving her space.. because she would think i only wanted to bone her.. Should i go out with her this next weekend.. Or give her space.


1.GOING OUT WITH HER THIS WEEKEND could suggest that i just didint just want her for sex and that i care about her ...


2.Not going out with her.. Could provide a challenge.. Or could be seen as me forgeting her becuase she doesnt give it up.. .good



those are 2 things that have me struggling..


wich one should i pick .. or what pros and cons do each of these options have..
 

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Stop thinkng and just do!. Do you wanna see her? Then see her. Don't worry about what she will think. Act like nothign happened. Just be lose, go with the flow. Have a deep discussion tel her you have a lot going on in life and that this whole thing happened unexpectedly. But be a man with courage, don't worry how she will react. Just keep going forward. I think you are thinking waaaay toooo much. Women aren't that smart you're giving her too much credit. If you act like all is well and you are having a good time, she will forget all the other stuff. Smile and stand up when you talk to her she will hear the excitement in your voice. Act like some things were going onin your life and they finally cleared up, act like life is just perfect. The more fun you can be the better your chance of scoring.
 
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