What makes a guy "HOT" according to women

[Jon E]

I cam across a good thread that I think deserves sharing.

Here are a few quotes that I found interesting:

Honestly, my idea of the hottest guy has nothing to do with looks (although they are a plus....)

The hottest guys to me arent hot in the "physical" sense.

Confidence is sexy. Smart is sexier. A sense of humor is sexiest.

I like a man who is refined, charming, aggressive to the point of dominance, a man who knows a good wine and who knows he is paying for mine.......
(wine that is).

pretty boys are just toys. and i've had enough of those toys to know that alot of them have no real substance. they've gotten by on their looks, so they haven't had to develop much in the brains or personality department!

Interesting.......
http://www.badgirlswirl.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=35160

 

[AverageFC]

yeah but we all know women dont know what they want anyway

 

[California Love]

Women are too easily influenced by subculture. They goto those boards and go on an ego-trip because no one knows what they look like, and there's no males to go around teaching them their proper place. Obviously, confidence, intelligence, and humor will get you places, but physical attraction is a HUGE advantage. I have seen a lotta pretty boys become nothing but tools, but look at pierce brosnan, hugh jackman, jude law....these guys are all fantastically handsome, confident, and skilled. You need to have a strong combination of both exterior and interior appeal to be a man that truly stands out.

 

[Jariel]

Women don't care about pretty boys...bullsh1t! The media makes a damn fortune marketing pretty boy merchandise to women, not to mention the 100s of tone deaf and cliched boybands whose looks sell millions of CDs.

Sure women want confidence, sophistication, humour etc, but a pretty boy with those qualities is a real winner.

When women say they're not interested in looks, what they mean is they're not interested in JUST good looks.

 

[Miliaris]

One of the basic rules is that man must not listen to what women talk, but to what they do!!!

 

[Jon E]

Originally posted by AverageFC
yeah but we all know women dont know what they want anyway

Oh really? Since when?

I found that everything said in that thread to be completely and totally congruent with what I know to be fact from first hand experience.

Originally posted by Miliaris
One of the basic rules is that man must not listen to what women talk, but to what they do!!!

And just what is it that they do? As far as I can tell, they go after exactly what they say they want.

Originally posted by California Love
and there's no males to go around teaching them their proper place.

Hmmm.....that's strange, Ive never had a woman "act out of place" with me before.

What's that like?


I dont understand why a lot of you on this site have this bitterness towards women. The only thing I can figure is that it must be the years of pent up frustration of being a miserable failure with women.

You have this knee-jerk reaction that whenever a woman speaks or gives her opinion that it must automatically be BS. That for some reason women don't know what they want. Just because a woman responds to a guy that's a jerk (a DJ), doesnt mean that she wont respond to something else a hundred times better. I know tons of ugly guys that have dozens of women all over them because they are the type of guy those women described in that thread.

I know some of you will find this impossible to believe, but the more I listen to women and learn what they have to say, the better I become with them. Let me say that again: The more I listen to them, study them, learn how they think, act and behave, the better I become at seducing them.

Women have a far better understanding of what they really want than you might believe, so I would suggest that you sit back, open your eyes and listen for a change and you might actually learn something useful.

 

[Scrumtulescence]

And just what is it that they do? As far as I can tell, they go after exactly what they say they want.

LOL, that is such crap. So why is it that women are ALWAYS complaining about not being able to find a nice, sensitive, giving guy- what they say they want- but those types of guys are never the ones who women lust over? Hell, you KNOW the woman who said the quotes in the first post is either lying or doesn't represent the female perspective at all....women DO love great looks, and while they swoon over confidence and whatnot, confidence plus good looks/body is absolutely killer.

And really, your question extends to more than just women. If you've actually "studied" women like you say you have, or if you've ever lived with one (or three, or five), you'd know that they're some of the most goddamn irrational creatures on the face of the planet. They can never make up theri mind on what they want; and when they do, they change it a nanosecond later.

Miliaris is exactly right when he says it's much more useful to study women by what they do than what they say.

 

[affliction]

And just what is it that they do? As far as I can tell, they go after exactly what they say they want.

This little gem here pretty much voids anything else you say. You're oblivious.

 

[AMF]

Originally posted by Jariel
Sure women want confidence, sophistication, humour etc, but a pretty boy with those qualities is a real winner.

I could use this as a dating profile.

 

[Jon E]

Originally posted by Scrumtulescence
So why is it that women are ALWAYS complaining about not being able to find a nice, sensitive, giving guy- what they say they want- but those types of guys are never the ones who women lust over?

Total BS.

Complete and total BS.

Not even close.

I am the nice, sensitive, caring giving guy and in the last 2 weeks I have had a married woman offer to send me plane tickets to come see her while her husband is in Iraq, a stripper call me up to come over while her boyfriend is out of town and tonight Im going out with a girl that can't believe that Im even talking to her much less taking her out.

I am about average in looks, but Im can charm the pants off them in 2 hours flat. There is a whole other side to seducing women than being a "DJ" that is never talked about on this site and its called being "charming".

Im funny, intelligent, charismatic, entertaining, Im never rude or arrogant. I do things like take her hand and gaze into her eyes while I tell her how beautiful she is, how smart and funny I think she is......within ten minuets Im having to duck to keep from getting hit in the face with a soggy pair of panties.

That's what women have been saying they want all along, and that's what Ive been giving them. But you wont ever learn that here. They all tell me the exact same story about how all they guys they meet are such losers, and then go on and on about how Im such a "great guy" and can't believe Im single and how they're sooooo glad they met me.

Im sorry it doesnt work for you guys, but while your on here complaining about it, Im the one out banging your old lady. This stuff does work, you've just got to learn how to use it.

 

[Don Juanabbe]

Well, I'm under the pretty boy category and I got laid like mad even when I was a pathetic AFC pretty boy.

These women are full of sh*t. They're the same ones who would cheat on their AFC boyfriends the first chance they get - with me.

Jon E - you're obviously getting away with acting like that because under all of those qualities you mention that you have you most probably are an extremely confident man and that is why you get away with it.

 

[Jon E]

Originally posted by Don Juanabbe
Jon E - you're obviously getting away with acting like that because under all of those qualities you mention that you have you most probably are an extremely confident man and that is why you get away with it.

Yes.

But I wouldn't say that I "get away with it" because that's what they all want in the first place.....only from a confidant man, not an AFC.

 

[RogueWarrior]

Women want a challenge. They want a the tall dark mysterious rebel who treats them like crap because they want the challenge of trying to make them into a sensitive, caring, giving AFC.

 

[tmpgstx]

Most women i know DO want a challenge. The best women i know have all been this way, but they're not challenged by your typical pretty boy, but rather by a self-assurred, conservative, intelligent and honest guy (and good looking most definitely helps).

The pretty boys are for the immature girls, and always will be. It's when they grow up (if they ever do), that these girls want the guy who is not only pretty but confident and smart.

You can be all this, and i've said it before, if you're not popular thru sports or some sort of way, these immature princess types won't go for ya - and much to their loss. It's only when they're older do they realize they wasted alot of time on alot of 'pretty boys'.

 

[borntoblossom]

Originally posted by Jon E
I dont understand why a lot of you on this site have this bitterness towards women. The only thing I can figure is that it must be the years of pent up frustration of being a miserable failure with women.

You have this knee-jerk reaction that whenever a woman speaks or gives her opinion that it must automatically be BS.

I agree 100%!

 

[Double]

Women are too easily influenced by subculture. They goto those boards and go on an ego-trip because no one knows what they look like, and there's no males to go around teaching them their proper place. Obviously, confidence, intelligence, and humor will get you places, but physical attraction is a HUGE advantage. I have seen a lotta pretty boys become nothing but tools, but look at pierce brosnan, hugh jackman, jude law....these guys are all fantastically handsome, confident, and skilled. You need to have a strong combination of both exterior and interior appeal to be a man that truly stands out.

Women don't care about pretty boys...bullsh1t! The media makes a damn fortune marketing pretty boy merchandise to women, not to mention the 100s of tone deaf and cliched boybands whose looks sell millions of CDs.

true....but what has this discussion thread to do in tips?!

 

[the-tiger]

hmm, nice post, i was going to post this question but ive found it now

 

[Jon E]

The point of this thread was to show you how women are far more attracted to personality traits and characteristics, than physical appearances like men are.

Since we were on the subject, I haven't made a lifes work out of studying women, but I make it a point to understand as much as I can about how they think, act and behave and Ive found that the better you can understand how women think, the better you can manipulate and seduce them. Sun Tzu in "The Art of War" said: "Know your enemy as well as yourself and you will defeat him in a thousand battles".............women aren't any different. Talking to a bunch of frustrated guys on this message board isn't going to fill you in on what women are thinking. You need to get in their head to see how they think. Read through some girly message boards, sit down and watch a Soap Opera and read 5 or 10 pages out of a romance novel the next time your in a grocery store.

This is the kind of stuff that turns women on, not guys that are ****y and funny, use neg hits or other crap like that. You'll start to see all the pieces fall into place, like what they mean when they say they want to be wined and dined, how they want romance, chivalry, how they want a guy to make them "feel special". Ever heard that one before?

Think about it guys.

 

[tmpgstx]

No Jon, you're wrong. They are attracted first to some sort of physical trait, though often less subtle than men. These enhance a personality, and the personality enhances them back. They play to each other, complimenting each other.

For a man, it's more physical, but as you get older, you want the best of both worlds, and believe you me, women both are VERY hard to find. I mean a decent woman, not one that is insecure or has major issues.

 

[Zero0ne]

If a woman sees a Pretty Boy with his head down standing next to an Average Joe that maintains eye contact, shes gonna be more attracted to Joe. Fear and Attraction are chemically similar; giving the headstrong Joe an advantage in that he asserts dominance though his eye contact.

I am in agreement with Jon E, but he might need to explain himself a bit more for the rest of the class to catch up.