What is your definition of "Alpha"?

[Naughty Ninja]

To me the word is ridiculous. Especially when people have to claim they are "Alpha".

Anyway..To me "Alpha" would mean having true confidence in yourself and not needing someone to 'complete' you. Judging off actions and not words while taking words with a grain of salt. Improving yourself to be the best person you can be in all aspects of life for your own good while projecting it out in a positive, upbeat, and helpful way to others. You get back from the universe what you put out to it and or take/expect from it.

What are your definitions of "Alpha"?

 

[LostAndConfused]

Generally if people have to claim they are alpha they aren't. It's more ambiguous online when people can make up anything about themselves,

because one man can dominate or rule over another man in so many different domains, IMO, we need to stray a bit away from the alpha male pecking order used to explain the hierarchy of other animals like chimps and gorillas.

But because "alpha", by definition, is a socio-sexual rank, I think we must consider the definition of it as such as well.

An alpha male is the man whose mere presence excites girls (emotionally, physically, sexually) when he steps into the room.

Girls give him furtive glances even if they're already in conversation with another non-Alpha guy (this is usually one of the biggest indicators).

This guy oftentimes is synonymous with a person in a power position, but not always. Also, when an alpha has sex he usually doesn't have to do much foreplay because a girl's body already is craving an orgasm with this man's dlck.

 

[Chamber36]

This looks like a better explanation. Seems more relevant and accurate.

 

[LostAndConfused]

I actually read that definition a couple days ago, Chamber. It's my favorite.

I think everyone, whether you agree with him or not, should read Roissy's.

Its here: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2007/09/19/defining-the-alpha-male/

The flaw in Roissy's definition, which was addressed in alphagameplan (Chamber's link), is that there are a ton of guys, some anti-social or reserved who score droves of attractive women.

The sigma is a good first step at explaining "those other guys" who do well with women. I think he still has to work a bit on the definition, but it's the best I've seen so far for guys who do well.

I'm one of those people.

Due to my introversion, I really can't consider myself a Roissian lesser-alpha. I hate smalltalk, and conversation with 99% of humanity really drains me. I've recently even left a hot-n-ready HB8 because I felt my brain was frying talking to her....made her get off my lap and everything. I'm also the guy who gets "recruited" to lead but I really can't hold positions of leadership. I get aggravated at everyone, and they start to seem more and more pestering, even though things are working out fine, until I abandon leadership. I'm very similar to a flaky woman when it comes to leadership. People will ask but I'll weasel my way out of it somehow.

I've got a long way to go in improving my game, but I'm now closing many cute girls. And this is coming from being an introverted late bloomer who overcame major social anxiety. I'm not alpha, but how do you define it? I think sigma is a start.

 

[Iceberg]

I actually read that definition a couple days ago, Chamber. It's my favorite.

I think everyone, whether you agree with him or not, should read Roissy's.

Its here: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2007/09/19/defining-the-alpha-male/

The flaw in Roissy's definition, which was addressed in alphagameplan (Chamber's link), is that there are a ton of guys, some anti-social or reserved who score droves of attractive women.

The sigma is a good first step at explaining "those other guys" who do well with women. I think he still has to work a bit on the definition, but it's the best I've seen so far for guys who do well.

I'm one of those people.

Due to my introversion, I really can't consider myself a Roissian lesser-alpha. I hate smalltalk, and conversation with 99% of humanity really drains me. I've recently even left a hot-n-ready HB8 because I felt my brain was frying talking to her....made her get off my lap and everything. I'm also the guy who gets "recruited" to lead but I really can't hold positions of leadership. I get aggravated at everyone, and they start to seem more and more pestering, even though things are working out fine, until I abandon leadership. I'm very similar to a flaky woman when it comes to leadership. People will ask but I'll weasel my way out of it somehow.

You pretty much described my social relationships exactly. Funny. People asking you to arrange Saturday night plans for the group, or take sides in some petty argument, or lead the pack to a set of women, etc. It's annoying. Some guys embrace it, but really the whole thing makes me tired.

Anyway, the Alpha thing - it's one of the topics that kills me on this message board. Because you'll have these dudes in here asking "Is this alpha?" "Did i do the alpha thing?" when the LEAST alpha thing in the world is to describe yourself as alpha. If you're truly alpha, it's as natural as breathing. You don't notice it. You don't ask about it. You don't describe yourself as it. I'm not even sure alphas desire to be alpha...it's just a natural inclination to leadership.

Many people on this sites goal is to become Alpha. For me, my goal is to be a real man. And no, those 2 terms are not synonomous.

100%

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

Many people on this sites goal is to become Alpha. For me, my goal is to be a real man. And no, those 2 terms are not synonomous.

 

[sighsigh]

I've got no problem with defining alpha, beta, gamma, etc. by how attractive a male is to women as a whole.

But to actually specify that an alpha/beta etc. has x relationships, is x hot, has x personality, is x, x, x,...that is absolutely moronic. There are far, far, far too many variables to constrain anything like that.

 

[Chamber36]

Well I gotta say Rollo's article here really says it best.

"...you are not Alpha because of your achievements, you have your achievements because you are Alpha. You possess a mindset you either had to develop or it came naturally to you."

 

[dutchmaster]

The dominant male who is extremely confident, can take control and lead anyone and at any time. Keeps his cool no matter what. Takes what he wants, doesn't give a **** what anyone thinks or does. Doesn't worry about women because he knows they all want him, just a matter of which one he'll give a chance to prove themselves to him. And of course, thinks positively and knows that he is the prize people chase, not the other way around.

 

[Zerro]

I've got no problem with defining alpha, beta, gamma, etc. by how attractive a male is to women as a whole.

But to actually specify that an alpha/beta etc. has x relationships, is x hot, has x personality, is x, x, x,...that is absolutely moronic. There are far, far, far too many variables to constrain anything like that.

Indeed, I define them by their qualities.

These guys break it down way too much, I stop at Omega and my definition of Omega is what they're calling "Sigma". To me an Omega has the alpha qualities minus the need for attention and validation from others that so many Alphas appear to need.

Alpha and Omega: the Alpha strives to be the first while the Omega knows that he is the last word. The Alpha may be great at playing the rules but the Omega merely sees them as optional guidelines.

 

[ObieJuan]

being alpha is finding your true inner confidence.

 

[bigneil]

Alpha is not defined, it's instinctively felt. When a bunch of men are in the room, everyone knows who the Alpha male is without being told.

 

[Htienvu]

Alpha male? Take hunters in a tribe back in the days, leader of the hunters = Alpha + , other hunters are Alpha -

 

[AlphaNate]

Talking about me behind my back again? :trouble:

In modern human society, alpha means (to me) someone that is the social "leader." Like most posters said, it's not about showing off. It's a mindset.

I maintain alpha status in social situations. When I go to the gym, I don't feel alpha, since the gym is all about physical appearance, and that's something I'm still working on.

If we had a money spending contest, I'm not going to be the alpha.

If you put me in any social situation, alpha as ****. I know some people think alpha means aggressive. I don't feel that way. In fact, I think the best way to maintain alpha status is not to "flex" at every situation, but to remain calm and cool in every situation.

Until it's time to f-close. Then, her property is getting mauled.

 

[jglide123]

The whole concept of being alpha, as it pertains to humans, is relative.

For example, a guy can be an alpha male in a small mid-western town (lets say Podunk, Missouri, just for kicks). But if this guy moved to New York City, where the population is far, far larger, and there are many men who could match him in looks, charisma, charm, etc. would he still be alpha? (Ever see the movie Big Fish? Great example of how that can play out.)

Even in the animal kingdom, if you took the biggest, baddest alpha wolf from one part of the forest and placed him in another pack, would he still be alpha? Maybe, maybe not.

Again, the whole concept of trying to be alpha is kinda silly to me. Think about this: The charismatic jock in college would lead at parties and in sports (where he is the Alpha Male), but could be average or below in the classroom (where he is Beta or Omega). Nobody can be dominate in every situation or area of life.

Why not just work on being the best YOU that you can be, and leave gaining "alpha" status to the less advanced animals on the planet?

 

[AlphaNate]

Also, Beowulf.

 

[ilikecharlene]

A guy who is assured, confident and can lead.

Not somebody who in social situations is the quiet and meek one. Or who accommodates to what others want a lot (the stereotypical nice guy). Or who is afraid to speak his mind, or cause a scene. It's a man IMO who just exudes confidence in everything he says and does.

Women like this since it's evolutionary. despite what modern society says (there are no gender roles, men and women are exactly alike, etc.) women are programmed to acknowledge a dominant/in control man, it's just as is. :yes: :rock: