What is the Black Pill?

[corrector]

I’m definitely not red pill though because they’re still chasing sex like they’d die without it.

That's 100% the impression you get from the general discussion threads on this board.

I’m not sure I’m blackpill because I don’t sit around blaming others for my lack of success with women, I honestly don’t think about it much to be honest. The thing about my lack of success is I HAD tons of success in my teens and 20’s, I’ve struggled in my 30’s. Not to get dates, those have been easy to come by, but to get anything meaningful out of them.

But others have pointed out, in particular @Barrister, that you've made a number of comments that would show you are making blackpill sounding points. You merely have to be disillusioned with red-pill or even not chasing sex like a red-piller because of cynical reasons (ie the juice is not worth the squeeze, etc..) to be blackpill. You should just own up to it.

Talking about your past means nothing because the past is dead. Do you think I'm going to sit all day thinking of my ex-wife and someone married me or how I'm doing today? How you did in your 20s is a different era from today and you were a different person. Lots of blackpill arguments focus on how technology, in particularly the internet/dating apps have changed which weren't around in your 20s. These things result in more sexless guys today than your time.

 

[Serenity]

The redpill will go for it if they are hard up enough because when you look at the threads here, no real screening is going on for a slump buster.

That doesn't sound very red pill to me, just sounds like ordinary stupidity.

The blackpill mindset will pass on the bad option because there are many more important things in life than sex.

Yet, women is all they talk about although in a negative sense. Sounds like good old denial to me.

 

[RBK]

This thread: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/dont-feel-like-dating-anymore.270665/

 

[Barrister]

That's 100% the impression you get from the general discussion threads on this board.



But others have pointed out, in particular @Barrister, that you've made a number of comments that would show you are making blackpill sounding points. You merely have to be disillusioned with red-pill or even not chasing sex like a red-piller because of cynical reasons (ie the juice is not worth the squeeze, etc..) to be blackpill. You should just own up to it.

Talking about your past means nothing because the past is dead. Do you think I'm going to sit all day thinking of my ex-wife and someone married me or how I'm doing today? How you did in your 20s is a different era from today and you were a different person. Lots of blackpill arguments focus on how technology, in particularly the internet/dating apps have changed which weren't around in your 20s. These things result in more sexless guys today than your time.

Red-pill is simply a general awareness of women's true nature is its simplest terms. Blue-pill is a non-awareness of that nature in its simplest terms.

Black-pill are those who think women are not worth the time of day in its simplest terms. We can certainly debate the merits of all 3 and their drawbacks. At the end of the day though, if you really open up the greater meaning of each, Red-pill is NOT just about women. It is about improving every facet of your life for YOU. When you do that, your success with women naturally increases. Black-pill, on the other hand, is bogged down with a self-defeatist attitude because of height, looks, money, etc. You also have a contingent of people who, due to lack of success with approaching women, suddenly decide they are done with them because women are more trouble than they are worth. Personally, I see no positives that come with a black-pill outlook. Regardless of how you got there, if you consider yourself "black-pill" you are severely limiting yourself - with women and otherwise.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I think the Black Pill is ‘looks are everything’.

 

[Mike32ct]

It’s really a question about what you want to put your time and focus on. And that is a personal decision.

For a guy that gets women easily, he can devote as much or as little effort into secs that he wants.

For a guy that struggles with women, maybe he’s better off career/business-maxing or at least have a solid hobby. And I say that not to necessarily attract women, but to avoid wasting his potential/talents.

 

[Robert28]

That's 100% the impression you get from the general discussion threads on this board.



But others have pointed out, in particular @Barrister, that you've made a number of comments that would show you are making blackpill sounding points. You merely have to be disillusioned with red-pill or even not chasing sex like a red-piller because of cynical reasons (ie the juice is not worth the squeeze, etc..) to be blackpill. You should just own up to it.

Talking about your past means nothing because the past is dead. Do you think I'm going to sit all day thinking of my ex-wife and someone married me or how I'm doing today? How you did in your 20s is a different era from today and you were a different person. Lots of blackpill arguments focus on how technology, in particularly the internet/dating apps have changed which weren't around in your 20s. These things result in more sexless guys today than your time.

I don’t blame technology or any specific thing for my lack of success. I think they contribute to it but they aren’t the sole cause of it. Do women prefer Chad? Absolutely. Is chad the cause of my lack of success? Not really. I think this forum is made up of mostly 2 types of guys for the most part. 1) young guys wanting to do better with women and 2) late bloomers who maybe didn’t have success early on but now have had some as they got older. Struggling with women bothers a lot of guys, it doesn’t really bother me. It’s frustrating and confusing at times but it’s not something that I constantly worry about every single day. Like I’ve said before, I don’t struggle getting dates, I struggle into those dates turning into what I’m looking for.

 

[corrector]

Red-pill is simply a general awareness of women's true nature is its simplest terms. Blue-pill is a non-awareness of that nature in its simplest terms.

Black-pill are those who think women are not worth the time of day in its simplest terms. We can certainly debate the merits of all 3 and their drawbacks. At the end of the day though, if you really open up the greater meaning of each, Red-pill is NOT just about women. It is about improving every facet of your life for YOU. When you do that, your success with women naturally increases. Black-pill, on the other hand, is bogged down with a self-defeatist attitude because of height, looks, money, etc. You also have a contingent of people who, due to lack of success with approaching women, suddenly decide they are done with them because women are more trouble than they are worth. Personally, I see no positives that come with a black-pill outlook. Regardless of how you got there, if you consider yourself "black-pill" you are severely limiting yourself - with women and otherwise.

You certainly have allot to say about blackpill, but devote one sentence to red-pill and blue-pill. So, to cut through the BS, I'll cut to the chase.

Both red-pill and black-pill are simply the same thing, in the sense that both are an awareness of women's true nature in the simplest terms.

You have good looks so some game will work with you and you can navigate around your awareness of woman's true nature so red-pill works. That is not the same with other guys on here so it's not quite a fair assessment. If you are unable to navigate around woman's nature in a way that's beneficial with you and not either exploitative or soul-sucking, then that would lead to black-pill.

 

[Barrister]

You certainly have allot to say about blackpill, but devote one sentence to red-pill and blue-pill. So, to cut through the BS, I'll cut to the chase.

Both red-pill and black-pill are simply the same thing, in the sense that both are an awareness of women's true nature in the simplest terms.

You have good looks so some game will work with you and you can navigate around your awareness of woman's true nature so red-pill works. That is not the same with other guys on here so it's not quite a fair assessment. If you are unable to navigate around woman's nature in a way that's beneficial with you and not either exploitative or soul-sucking, then that would lead to black-pill.

If you re-read my post I dedicated more than a sentence to red-pill. And we are now just talking in circles between this thread and the "I don't feel like dating anymore" thread. At the end of the day, black-pill guys always have some excuse why they can't get women. It IS self-defeating and serves no real purpose. It's especially frustrating when you get certain posters who sit on here and tell us that all of us will eventually become "black-pilled" when there is plenty of evidence to the contrary.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

A poisoned mindset of victimhood.

 

[Serenity]

Both red-pill and black-pill are simply the same thing, in the sense that both are an awareness of women's true nature in the simplest terms.

Haha, to think black pilled men have a clue about the true nature of women. They're as deluded as the blue pilled guys, just at the opposite extreme of the spectrum. The actual truth lies somewhere in between, or rather across the entire spectrum.

You have good looks so some game will work with you and you can navigate around your awareness of woman's true nature so red-pill works. That is not the same with other guys on here so it's not quite a fair assessment.

Pffft, looks... Have you actually seen the most dedicated black pill believers/incels? They don't have the physical disadvantages that they believe they have, in fact their looks isn't what's hindering them at all. It's the fact that they're mentally ill that makes women avoid them like the plague. I would argue many of them look better or are at least on my level in terms of looks. There's also the fact that there are guys who are worse looking who have little trouble getting chicks, perhaps it's because their minds are not filled to the brim with a toxic ideology?

You certainly have allot to say about blackpill, but devote one sentence to red-pill and blue-pill.

It has been debated and defined to death, this thread focuses on black pill so I said most about that assuming OP already is familiar with the other pills. What's your point?

 

[Charm2K]

Its all bla bla bla bla.. red, blue, pink alot of bulll****.

How about act like a man, grow some balls and enjoy woman ?

 

[corrector]

Pffft, looks... Have you actually seen the most dedicated black pill believers/incels? They don't have the physical disadvantages that they believe they have, in fact their looks isn't what's hindering them at all. It's the fact that they're mentally ill that makes women avoid them like the plague. I would argue many of them look better or are at least on my level in terms of looks. There's also the fact that there are guys who are worse looking who have little trouble getting chicks, perhaps it's because their minds are not filled to the brim with a toxic ideology?

I find that hard to believe.

 

[corrector]

That doesn't sound very red pill to me, just sounds like ordinary stupidity.

That's heavily promoted here on this "red-pill" site. In fact, red-pillers are making every effort to convince unmotivated members to do just that, even if they are not blackpill but volcel, because they portray sex as important as food, water, and maybe even air.

 

[Robert28]

I find that hard to believe.

That’s because he’s in denial about women are visual creatures the same as men. No one has ever shown me proof that an ugly dude with game made a woman panties gush. Oh, yeah you hear stories but never anything to back it up.

 

[Serenity]

That's heavily promoted here on this "red-pill" site. In fact, red-pillers are making every effort to convince unmotivated members to do just that, even if they are not blackpill but volcel, because they portray sex as important as food, water, and maybe even air.

That's the beauty of "pill logic", it doesn't make sense and anyone can twist the definition to mean whatever they want it to mean because there's no real consensus about the definition.

Going by your definition, red-pill is about as broken as any other pill. Going by my definition, one of the main things about being red-pill is exactly to not uncritically put your d!ck into any women they can.

Your definition of red-pill is just a variant of blue-pill...

 

[corrector]

That's the beauty of "pill logic", it doesn't make sense and anyone can twist the definition to mean whatever they want it to mean because there's no real consensus about the definition.

Going by your definition, red-pill is about as broken as any other pill. Going by my definition, one of the main things about being red-pill is exactly to not uncritically put your d!ck into any women they can.

Your definition of red-pill is just a variant of blue-pill...

Someone put a copy of the thread on the first page that gave rise to this discussion. I'm merely parroting points made by @mrgoodstuff, @BackInTheGame78, @RickTheToad. Perhaps they can account of themselves since I'm not going to start defending other "red-pill" poster's points of view that I myself don't agree with if you are going to go there and start challenging that too.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

That's heavily promoted here on this "red-pill" site. In fact, red-pillers are making every effort to convince unmotivated members to do just that, even if they are not blackpill but volcel, because they portray sex as important as food, water, and maybe even air.

Psychologists do too. Can't hide from your desires forever.

 

[corrector]

Psychologists do too. Can't hide from your desires forever.

...and you are the guy promoting vaccines on other threads.

 

[Barrister]

...and you are the guy promoting vaccines on other threads.

Brother, you were just talking about demonic possession. But you’re going to give a fellow poster a hard time about vaccines. Lol