What is more desirable in a woman - sexual availability or intelligence?

[MatureDJ]

I've been thinking. Is it better to have an intellectual woman with whom I could discuss things, but who may have a less than desirable attitude about sexual availability (i.e., "not in the mood, has a lot of "headaches", etc.), or to have a standard intelligence woman (or perhaps lower), but that has a good attitude about sexual availability (i.e., she is ready to spread her legs whenever I'm in the mood, etc.)?

I suppose this a type of analysis similar to the dilemma of the semi-chunky cutie vs. the somewhat dog faced, hot figure chick.

What do you think?

 

[Luthor Rex]

I think without knowing other character traits of a woman, you couldn't really judge based on these things alone.

If all else were equal, I would chose depending on how long I wanted the relationship to last. Short term I'd go for the average one, long-er term I'd go for the bright one. The average one can never get smarter (biologically her brain won't improve, which is what she would need to get up to your mensa chick), but the smart one can warm up and put out more.

 

[jophil28]

Go for the smarter one.
You can always use a couple shots of tequila to cure her "headache", but nothing will make her any sharper.

 

[KontrollerX]

It depends on the DJ...

For the relationship or marriage seeking DJ smarts or intelligence are irrelevant as if that DJ seeks a strong long term relationship bond be it marriage or just an LTR itself the most important factor going in that girl's life which the DJ should screen his candidates by are how she was raised, what kinds of friends she keeps and what her views on life are as well how her past relationships with men (if any) panned out since what happened in those relationships will determine that man's future with that girl or there will at least be strong patterns and similarities.

If she's not a traditional, humble and feminine girl by the way she was raised and by how she actually wants to be deep down you are not going to have a loyal much less desireable candidate for a relationship.

Also if the DJ in question desires an intensely interesting wild wh0rish woman as in what Mike Tyson would call a lady in the streets but a wh0re in between the sheets you are not going to have your cake and eat it too because its as Rollo has said "Every man wants a wh0re its just that he wants her to be his wh0re" as in his only but the thing is a wh0re is a wh0re and is not wifey material.

Thats why guys like Bible Belt have the crazy BPD type wh0re on the side to have some real fun with while the main girlfriend is the type that was raised to be a decent person and actually wants to be a decent person.

For the DJ that just wants to live the player life a girl cheating on him or being loyal to him only are NOT factors to be considered therefore smart or dumb are still irrelevant factors since he can go for any type of woman and get what he wants. He will of course next the woman who doesn't put out within his timeframe be she smart or a drooling tard.

Ultimately the woman that should be most desired by a man is the woman who bends to that particular man's frame of how he wants the relationship to be and not the other way around.

As when the man is not leading neither member of the couple is going to be happy anyway.

You can see this in the relationships of feminist ball busters who've got their beta boys on a leash.

They are not happy with those sympish men but real women that being feminine women are very happy with the real men they attract and end up with because everyone's natural role is being played out and fulfilled.

 

[STR8UP]

Are you kidding?

You should have intelligent MALE friends around to discuss intellectual topics.

It has been my experience that women who are "smarter than the average bear" aren't the most feminine specimens.

I want a FEMININE chick with a pleasant demeanor, not some Einstein philosopher.

Honestly, I can't even believe this is a real question. Any man with a fair amount of "T" flowing through his veins wants a woman for her body, not for her mind.

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear Mature DJ,
Did Don Juan ask for their curriculum Vitae as he was stoking the fire....no man should even consider a relationship with a girl who is not prepared to satisfy his needs,they are not that rare...as for intellect,aren't your mates enough stimulation?

 

[piranha45]

Are you kidding?

You should have intelligent MALE friends around to discuss intellectual topics.

It has been my experience that women who are "smarter than the average bear" aren't the most feminine specimens.

I want a FEMININE chick with a pleasant demeanor, not some Einstein philosopher.

Honestly, I can't even believe this is a real question. Any man with a fair amount of "T" flowing through his veins wants a woman for her body, not for her mind.

My thoughts exactly! Well said.

 

[STR8UP]

There's a big difference between "average" intelligence and DUMB AS A ROCK.

I can't stand being around anyone who is dumb (a quick shag excluded).

Point is, HIGH intelligence in a woman is of little value to me. As long as she can carry on a conversation and we get along I don't really care.

 

[Rogue]

I feel torn by this question. Truly intelligent women are rare and I want to say intelligence but on the other hand, statistically speaking, highly intelligent women tend to be calculating and sinister, and if you're their mark you will not know it. I have a genius IQ and I realized some time ago how unnecessary it is for a woman to comparably match my intelligence level, for so long as a woman shows a genuine curiosity of the world and openness to intellectualisms, though she may not know much herself, I can fill in her mind. Highly intelligent women also present the problem of tending to be mean-spirited, snarky, sassy pants. They consummately are snakes with tits. And as for sexual availability there is the shelf life called menopause.

People skills along with warmth and compassion are more important. If I ever meet a woman with Asperger syndrome like myself then she will be fascinating, but until then give me the modestly intelligent bubbly girl with a wonderful posterior.

 

[realsmoothie]

I agree with the poster above who said that intelligence and high sexuality are not incongruous. In fact, I'll go one better... the "smart" girls I know are the ones who generally have a more progressive view on society's hatred of female sexuality and have taken more steps to free themselves.

The smarter girls I know are more sexually active, more open to enjoying it, than the dumb ones who generally live for stupid girly crap like "status" and thus use sex as a weapon.

 

[Jeffst1980]

Ultimately the woman that should be most desired by a man is the woman who bends to that particular man's frame of how he wants the relationship to be and not the other way around.

As when the man is not leading neither member of the couple is going to be happy anyway.

I think this is true--you want a girl that is a "giver." There's nothing like having a girl that is open to following your lead and does not challenge your every word or decision.

There are plenty of hot, smart chicks. The ones that AREN'T "givers" tend to overthink relationship issues and become resentful. The ones that are are a joy to be with, however. I actually tend to think of smart women as MORE sexually available, but I'm not quite sure why.

 

[jophil28]

I think this is true--you want a girl that is a "giver." There's nothing like having a girl that is open to following your lead and does not challenge your every word or decision.

There are plenty of hot, smart chicks. The ones that AREN'T "givers" tend to overthink relationship issues and become resentful. The ones that are are a joy to be with, however. I actually tend to think of smart women as MORE sexually available, but I'm not quite sure why.

I agree with that. Their IQ is not problematic and has never been so with me. WHat IS a problem is some women's adversarial attitude towards men. Its almost like they suffer from Oppositional Defiant Disorder.
:nono:

 

[Jitterbug]

I like intelligent women, but these days people tend to think that highly educated females equal intelligent females. I know a lot of highly educated women who have truckloads of degrees, small letters next to their names and can recite a whole library of books, but they're still dumb. They can parrot other people's ideas very well, but can't think for themselves.

Few women are stupid enough to piss me off anyway. Like jophil said, usually it's their adversarial attitude towards men in matters related to demonstrating intelligence that turns me off (I call that the BSD - Big Swingin' **** - attitude).

So - sexual availability, please.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

I'll start by saying that neither are mutually exclusive. However, if it's a one or the other situation, sexual availability wins out. Maybe this is the topic for an entirely new thread, but precious few women really know how to be sexy. I think it's a statement on today's women that pole dancing and strip-cardio classes even exist. Very few women are sexy by intent because they walk a fine line between OVERT sexuality (the stereotypic slut) and the prude (with the risk of repulsing a potential mate). I know that sounds odd, but women, most likely by way of entitlement, rarely feel a need to 'be sexy', and particularly very attractive women. There's little need to learn how to be sexy when men fawn over them by default. It's similar to the natural, good looking guy; he's got little motivation to educate himself with regards to game, or even how to be a better Man.

Conversely, overly educated women abound (or at least pop-culture would have us believe so). The main problem being that the popular expectation should be that intelligence should trump the "shallowness" of wanting someone preoccupied with sex and the physical. This is equally misleading. Intelligent women would like for their intelligence to be an attracting factor, but as with most 'professional' women, men's biology and their own still confound this.

Now, what do you think the answer would be if you asked this question of the wo(men) over at Love Shack? What do you think their stock answers will be?

 

[Da Realist]

My opinion is that a lot of smart women have a mental disconnect of why men and women get together: to have sex and procreate. I'm a smart guy. I've sat up and thought of how cool it would be to use the energy just floating around us as an energy source but how it would be impossible with the way we understand thermodymanics. I can respect a woman with some brains and even be wowed by some deep insiht she came up with about the world. But at the end of day, no matter how intelligent I am, I'm thinking of boobies, how I'm going to touch hers, and how good they're going to feel. The thing about a lot of intelligent women is that they forget that. They are so smart and advanced that sex is too base a thing to deal with all the time. What's worse is that they make the average woman feel bad because she's an object to her man and that if she got an education it would make him respect her more and everything will be better: it doesn't. The intelligent woman doesn't realize a guy can be amazed by how good a mom his wife or gf can be, or how she can keep a place clean and still look good. In fact, a guy gets a woman with emotional baggage and the knowlegde of how to make him miserable. So truthfully, just give me a girl that knows enough at least about how to enjoy herself and the attitude that sex is good any day.

 

[wjh]

but women, most likely by way of entitlement, rarely feel a need to 'be sexy', and particularly very attractive women. There's little need to learn how to be sexy when men fawn over them by default.

I swear I'm dealing with this exact thing right now.

A very attractive girl who doesn't know how to be sexy. It's so damn anti-climactic, ugh.

 

[wjh]

So truthfully, just give me a girl that knows enough at least about how to enjoy herself and the attitude that sex is good any day.

I agree whole-heartedly.

I value a woman's higher education very little outside of being able to hold a decent conversation some times. I don't care about her academic background, I care about her being sane, fun, sexy, and affectionate most of the time. The need to compete with me on an intellectual level, or to compare career goals, absolutely is a mood killer.

And if a girl chooses to not do something about not being sexy, applying a Sex In The City mentality, then we'll just be drawn to a different girl. It's reality.

Sure I may be having some problems with my GF because this dynamic of her not feeling the need to be sexy or dress sexy is annoying me, I will eventually find someone else who does. As an aside, I just don't see myself jumping ship until I've qualified the other girl(s) as sane, fun, and potentially affectionate. We'll see.

 

[Luthor Rex]

And if a girl chooses to not do something about not being sexy, applying a Sex In The City mentality,

I'm not very familiar with the show. What do you mean?

 

[wjh]

I'm not very familiar with the show. What do you mean?

Let me just clarify, what I mean was that adopting the SITC mentality is a bad thing.

Watch the show if you never have, it's terrible.

 

[Commandante]

To MatureDJ:

I´m not sure what do you mean by intellectual.

If you mean intelligent (having high IQ), educated (having a lot of degrees) or intellectual (thinking Woody Allen is hot and being crazy about exhibitions and things like this) than the answer is absolutely NO! Being one of these means she thinks in general more than an average chick. The more she thinks the more difficult is for her to act like a horny cave woman. And you can´t have good sex without turning your brain off and act like a cave woman/man. And why do you want to be in a relationship without good sex?

But if intellectual means grown-up for you, than the answer is YES.