What is lacking in my social skills?

[RichardTheFrog]

I will start by saying that nobody here has ever hung out with me, so all you are going by is posts on a website, which can't possibly give you the whole picture, but I'll ask anyway...

I seem to socialize normally everywhere I go. I've been managing a trailer park for the past 3 years. Not many problems there. I'm basically all business.

Today, I had to go to an electrical supply store to buy a new capacitor for the a/c in my house flip. I called them ahead of time, gave them the part number, then went and picked it up. I also bought a new multimeter (device that tests electrical circuits) and I had a few minutes worth of conversation with the female worker about what I was looking for and what was the difference between the different models they had. Simple and easy. I come across like a normal, polite, possibly intelligent person. I leave, she wishes me a good day, I wish her one back.

We're selling the trailer park and I have to go to the office of the brokerage and give them all the listing agreements, copies of leases, etc. Business as usual.

I don't really see what is lacking in my social abilities or personality? Although it is usually the first thing that people point out on here.

And obviously all of these conversations are business.

 

[guru1000]

Richard, you're socially retarded. But that's OK. Eccentric is a plus IMO. Focus on your looks, for now. When is the photography scheduled?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Richard, you're socially retarded.

Why do you say this?

Photo shoot March 25th.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Autism/Asperger's

Except that I just got told I didn't have that.

 

[guru1000]

Why do you say this?

How many times have you said, "You are the first guy in the mental hospital that took so much acid he thought he was a reptilian."

You must admit you are not a normal guy. The most financially successful brokers I have met were also "out of their mind." I say don't change a thing. Embrace it. Hone it. Make it work for you.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

What DO you have then

No clue.

I used to be able to blame it on the drugs. But I haven't done those in almost a decade.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

How many times have you said, "You are the first guy in the mental hospital that took so much acid he thought he was a reptilian."

You must admit you are not a normal guy. The most financially successful brokers I have met were also "out of their mind." I say don't change a thing. Embrace it. Hone it. Make it work for you.

Okay. But just because I did a lot of drugs when I was younger doesn't make me socially retarded, does it?

As far as I know, I can get done everything that I need to, other than having sex with the hot women for free. But that just puts me in the same boat as 95% of other guys.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

And that Lambo will definitely help me stick out. Haha.

 

[guru1000]

Okay. But just because I did a lot of drugs when I was younger doesn't make me socially retarded, does it?

As far as I know, I can get done everything that I need to, other than having sex with the hot women for free. But that just puts me in the same boat as 95% of other guys.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

And that Lambo will definitely help me stick out. Haha.

You’re fully functional and ambitious, just with an eccentric personality.

What’s wrong is not so much that you were in a mental hospital and thought you were a lizard as much as your not being aware that this is not something you share with people you just meet ... even on the internet. There is some dirty laundry you just keep to yourself. Social awareness of how these statements make you appear to the reader/listener is what you may lack. Unless you DGAF, but if you truly DGAF, you wouldn’t have created this thread seeking to redress.

 

[Spinach]

I don't know about being socially retarded, but from a clinical perspective your facial demeanor, your sunken eyes, scream creeper! I showed some of your posted photos to a half dozen of my female friends who while not "hot" are normal women that lead functional, satisfying lives. Every one of them commented on your facial expressions, how tiny you appear even when in a suit, and after reading some of your commentary on this site, said they would not want to be alone with you....as in fearing for their personal safety. One made the comment that you look like a guy who would kill small animals for the fun of it! As far as the Lambo, the females just rolled their eyes and shook their collective heads. That said, perhaps you might want to consider some kind of intervention, be it physical or whatever to take the darkness from your looks and personality regarding women. Don't know if that would be helpful, but it appears you can't do much worse than your current status. And no, I don't fu*k hot women at every opportunity. Especially if I had to pay to do so. Just some observations from neutral parties that have no vested interest in you or your life. Now you can strike out as you do when anyone on this board comments on your situation. Carry on.

 

[guru1000]

Spinach has good points Richard. Notice, even when you seek to improve your personality, it tends to go back to your looks. This is because if your looks are not inviting, you’ll never get enough at-bats to work on and hone your personality.

You can correct the sunken eye, creeper vibe by working out (also use Jawzrsizer) and eating enough calories from the right foods, thus creating blood flow and adding volume to your face. This goes back to my original recommendation to you of diet and exercise. You are the sole guardian of your fate. If you choose to be lazy with what was suggested, you must live the consequence with no complaints.

 

[The Duke]

Frog- the skills you could work on involve initiating conversations with perfect strangers that you know nothing about, have no business connection with. You need to be able to cold approach a girl and initiate conversation from absolutely nothing. Your conversations you have with your business colleagues are great, but they don't illicit emotions and get down to a personal level. They are all surface conversations. You need convo's that go deeper and create emotional connections.

Here are two recent examples that I had:

1. I was out on the patio at a lounge I frequent. I noticed this girl sitting by herself that I was attracted to so I went right over to her. With a big smile on my face, I opened with "such a pretty girl sitting by herself......I bet you told your boyfriend to stay home tonight!" She laughs, I ask her where she was from. She tells me and explains her family owns a ranch. It just so happens that my family is in the same business. So we spent the next ten minutes talking about that kind of stuff and a connection was formed. Next I commented that she has a lot of Native American features. She explains that she is Cherokee/Irish. This starts a conversation about
our heritage. I was sure to tell her that I once looked for a Native American version of Tinder because I thought Native American girls were the hottest. She busts out laughing and big smiles and grabs my shoulder. The tone and facial expressions you use are key. She didn't know if I was being honest, charming, or making stuff up. This kind of playful "coy" conversation is what captivates and intrigues them.

Now there is a part 2 to this convo that got a little interesting. It doesn't really apply here but it was funny. After 20 minutes of convo it was clear there was a connection between us. She kept touching me more and more. Her body language told the story as well. I'm about a breath away from asking for her number and she leans into me and tells me that her HUSBAND is standing at the bar. I'm like "ohh... that's real nice, I'm sorry I had no clue." She insists I stay. I'm thinking....uhhh Negative ghost rider that dude is big and I'm pretty sure he is going to be pissed. Before I could get the hell out of Dodge, the husband is headed back to his seat that I'm sitting in. I stand up and extend my hand while offering his seat back. He asks me if I want a drink so hesitantly I accept. He goes and gets it. While the husband is getting my drink, he hits on 2 hotties at the bar while his wife and I watch it all go down. I'm laughing at all of this now, and wondering if they weren't playing some game or had some open marriage. He comes back and the wife makes fun of him for getting blown out by those two girls. I hung out for another 20minutes of laughs and convo's about relationships and left. It was good times.....had a good convo with a hot girl, got a free drink, and made friends with some new guy!

2. This time I approached a girl at a bar and asked her name. She tells me "Zara". I'm like Zara the Warrior Princess?.....is that Xena the Warrior Princess' little sister?" She smiles and says "OMG you know her!" and goes into a 5minute chat about how much she loved Xena the warrior princess and watched it growing up. I start asking questions about her personality and if she saw herself as Xena. We also talked about other super hero's. She asked me if I was a super hero, who would I be. This was a chance to create a deeper connection by exploring each others personality on a deeper level. By the end of that convo she told me I scored a million points by mentioning Xena and wanted to know how I knew that. Truth was she looked a little like Xena and that's where my mind went. I got the number and bailed.

I don't use any cheesy pua lines. I never make it my goal to get a number. My goal is to make a connection thru good conversation and I use the same approach every time. Make a comment/tease her, get her to smile/laugh, ask questions that get her to open up so we have something to build on, find common interests, add my own funny stories to create comfort, steer it where you want to go.

I honed my skills conversational skills with women in $trip clubs by observing what $trippers used on me to make a connection so they could extract a $20 lap dance(You have to be good to get me to blow $20 on a dance). Once I understood how to play the game, I used it on them to keep them sitting on my lap without spending any money!

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Frog- the skills you could work on involve initiating conversations with perfect strangers that you know nothing about, have no business connection with. You need to be able to cold approach a girl and initiate conversation from absolutely nothing. Your conversations you have with your business colleagues are great, but they don't illicit emotions and get down to a personal level. They are all surface conversations. You need convo's that go deeper and create emotional connections.

Here are two recent examples that I had:

1. I was out on the patio at a lounge I frequent. I noticed this girl sitting by herself that I was attracted to so I went right over to her. With a big smile on my face, I opened with "such a pretty girl sitting by herself......I bet you told your boyfriend to stay home tonight!" She laughs, I ask her where she was from. She tells me and explains her family owns a ranch. It just so happens that my family is in the same business. So we spent the next ten minutes talking about that kind of stuff and a connection was formed. Next I commented that she has a lot of Native American features. She explains that she is Cherokee/Irish. This starts a conversation about
our heritage. I was sure to tell her that I once looked for a Native American version of Tinder because I thought Native American girls were the hottest. She busts out laughing and big smiles and grabs my shoulder. The tone and facial expressions you use are key. She didn't know if I was being honest, charming, or making stuff up. This kind of playful "coy" conversation is what captivates and intrigues them.

Now there is a part 2 to this convo that got a little interesting. It doesn't really apply here but it was funny. After 20 minutes of convo it was clear there was a connection between us. She kept touching me more and more. Her body language told the story as well. I'm about a breath away from asking for her number and she leans into me and tells me that her HUSBAND is standing at the bar. I'm like "ohh... that's real nice, I'm sorry I had no clue." She insists I stay. I'm thinking....uhhh Negative ghost rider that dude is big and I'm pretty sure he is going to be pissed. Before I could get the hell out of Dodge, the husband is headed back to his seat that I'm sitting in. I stand up and extend my hand while offering his seat back. He asks me if I want a drink so hesitantly I accept. He goes and gets it. While the husband is getting my drink, he hits on 2 hotties at the bar while his wife and I watch it all go down. I'm laughing at all of this now, and wondering if they weren't playing some game or had some open marriage. He comes back and the wife makes fun of him for getting blown out by those two girls. I hung out for another 20minutes of laughs and convo's about relationships and left. It was good times.....had a good convo with a hot girl, got a free drink, and made friends with some new guy!

2. This time I approached a girl at a bar and asked her name. She tells me "Zara". I'm like Zara the Warrior Princess?.....is that Xena the Warrior Princess' little sister?" She smiles and says "OMG you know her!" and goes into a 5minute chat about how much she loved Xena the warrior princess and watched it growing up. I start asking questions about her personality and if she saw herself as Xena. We also talked about other super hero's. She asked me if I was a super hero, who would I be. This was a chance to create a deeper connection by exploring each others personality on a deeper level. By the end of that convo she told me I scored a million points by mentioning Xena and wanted to know how I knew that. Truth was she looked a little like Xena and that's where my mind went. I got the number and bailed.

I don't use any cheesy pua lines. I never make it my goal to get a number. My goal is to make a connection thru good conversation and I use the same approach every time. Make a comment/tease her, get her to smile/laugh, ask questions that get her to open up so we have something to build on, find common interests, add my own funny stories to create comfort, steer it where you want to go.

I honed my skills conversational skills with women in $trip clubs by observing what $trippers used on me to make a connection so they could extract a $20 lap dance(You have to be good to get me to blow $20 on a dance). Once I understood how to play the game, I used it on them to keep them sitting on my lap without spending any money!

Okay but you didn't have sex with any of those girls.

 

[The Duke]

Okay but you didn't have sex with any of those girls.

Nope, I sure didn't. But I've used that same approach before that did lead to sex that night or shortly after. Sex should never
be the goal that drives you. Women smell it a mile away and become very defensive. There job is to protect the pu$$y, our job
is to get it. The more skilled you are, the more pu$$y you get.

Its about the hunt(seduction), not the kill(sex). Hunting animals is so much like seducing women. It takes time, patience, investment, knowledge, etc
and the animals are skiddish, illusive, and flakey as hell...just like women. The hunter is always looking for the "honey hole" and looking for the magic solution.
There is none. Learn to enjoy the thrill of the hunt.

ps. Sex with the girl in example #2 is still a possibility. I haven't gone out with her yet.

 

[Spinach]

And there you go. Shallow, one dimensional, only thinking women are good for sex and nothing more. It is so obvious to the women you interact with that you are a hollow little man with an artificially enhanced sex organ. Even you must recognize that sex is only one part of a real, functional relation. It appears everything that you attempt to do is to get free sex. Well Pilgrim it is not going to happen, especially with all those "hot" girls you seem to desire. Women are more than a vagina. Until you realize that you will have to be content with *****s and SA escort types who could give a flying f**k about you. Does a house (one that you mythically are attempting to flip perhaps) have to fall on you to realize that unless you are a total human being you will not be able to provide anything but that "bionic d*ck" you constantly talk about. Frankly, most women don't really care about your sexual prowess, but rather the support system you can provide. Honestly, with your looks, stature, and social capabilities you are well served by buying companionship, and quit living with the delusion that material flash will give you what you are seemingly lacking. I have to say you do provide a humorous distraction on this site. Keep up the good work.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

And there you go. Shallow, one dimensional, only thinking women are good for sex and nothing more. It is so obvious to the women you interact with that you are a hollow little man with an artificially enhanced sex organ. Even you must recognize that sex is only one part of a real, functional relation. It appears everything that you attempt to do is to get free sex. Well Pilgrim it is not going to happen, especially with all those "hot" girls you seem to desire. Women are more than a vagina. Until you realize that you will have to be content with *****s and SA escort types who could give a flying f**k about you. Does a house (one that you mythically are attempting to flip perhaps) have to fall on you to realize that unless you are a total human being you will not be able to provide anything but that "bionic d*ck" you constantly talk about. Frankly, most women don't really care about your sexual prowess, but rather the support system you can provide. Honestly, with your looks, stature, and social capabilities you are well served by buying companionship, and quit living with the delusion that material flash will give you what you are seemingly lacking. I have to say you do provide a humorous distraction on this site. Keep up the good work.

Sorry, little boy, you don't know me well enough to talk to me this way. I don't respect your life experience.

Please tell me all of the things that girls have to offer instead of that hole?

Support system? Doesn't that mean money? Why must I be expected to give so much when they give little in return?

It takes a certain level of intelligence to make lots of money. Probably more than you have.

What's wrong with my looks? A girl just called me an 8 three days ago. Do you think I care what YOU think of them?

Prowess? Are you referring to body size? If you're going to judge someone on their body size rather than their life accomplishments, then you are frankly an idiot.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Spinach has good points Richard. Notice, even when you seek to improve your personality, it tends to go back to your looks. This is because if your looks are not inviting, you’ll never get enough at-bats to work on and hone your personality.

You can correct the sunken eye, creeper vibe by working out (also use Jawzrsizer) and eating enough calories from the right foods, thus creating blood flow and adding volume to your face. This goes back to my original recommendation to you of diet and exercise. You are the sole guardian of your fate. If you choose to be lazy with what was suggested, you must live the consequence with no complaints.

If there is such a thing as a soul, I may have killed mine through years of hallucinogen abuse followed by 4 years of incarceration.

I think that's what gives the whole soulless, sunken eye thing.

 

[guru1000]

If there is such a thing as a soul, I may have killed mine through years of hallucinogen abuse followed by 4 years of incarceration.

I think that's what gives the whole soulless, sunken eye thing.

Sunken eyes is prompted by dehydration and/or a loss of fat deposits around your eyes. As drugs dehydrate you, most drug addicts have sunken eyes. However, as you are no longer using drugs (hopefully), you just need to keep well hydrated by drinking at least one gallon of water a day, especially in FL's hot weather.

Even if your sunken eyes were due to fat loss around the eyes, hydration will plump up the skin and reflect the light away, diminishing the darkness. Also working out, and bringing blood flow to the face will thicken the dermis, thus averting light away as opposed to unveiling the blood underneath the orbital area through its current transparency.

A healthy lifestyle is a lifelong commitment which comprises diet, hydration, and exercise. Are you ready to take on this commitment?

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

Please tell me all of the things that girls have to offer instead of that hole?

What does any human have to offer other than their sex organs? What do you have to offer other than your d*ck? People are not just d*cks and vaginas walking about, obviously. We're far more nuanced and interesting than that.

Have you never wanted to have a good conversation with a woman? To find a woman who connects with you on more levels than your d*ng? To have a woman who WANTS to pleasure you because she actually really likes you? These are all qualities separate from money and holes/pegs that we have on our bodies.

As Spinach says, if you have the view that women are just something to stick your d*ck in and are otherwise about the same level of importance as a snail on your front doorstep, you're not going to be attractive to them because it's a repellent attitude to have towards them.

I think the problem is that you've been with enough paid girls that you've become entirely used to Money = Sex, which is incredibly artificial and nowhere near the normal, natural dynamic most people engage in.

Even the most casual sex is usually something that happens when you feel attracted to someone's physique and their personality, not an exchange of cash. It's fundamentally different, and I think it's wired your feelings towards women in a way that is stopping you from getting laid conventionally.

 

[Spinach]

Ah Patrick, or Richard if you prefer, I have liquid assets in the multi millions of dollars, and have had life experiences of which you will only dream. The only little boy on this thread is the sad eyed individual trying to buy social status, desperately seeking someone that will care for you without being paid to do so. But obviously, you, on the other hand have been in prison, fried your reptilian brain on drugs, spout platitudes of wealth as you scurry around trying to flip your first house. Yup, you win, your life experience is much greater than anyone here, supported by your huge intellect. But yet it seems you seek the approval of those of us that are only worthy of your distain. As I stated earlier, I wish you well. Done.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

What does any human have to offer other than their sex organs? What do you have to offer other than your d*ck? People are not just d*cks and vaginas walking about, obviously. We're far more nuanced and interesting than that.

Have you never wanted to have a good conversation with a woman? To find a woman who connects with you on more levels than your d*ng? To have a woman who WANTS to pleasure you because she actually really likes you? These are all qualities separate from money and holes/pegs that we have on our bodies.

As Spinach says, if you have the view that women are just something to stick your d*ck in and are otherwise about the same level of importance as a snail on your front doorstep, you're not going to be attractive to them because it's a repellent attitude to have towards them.

I think the problem is that you've been with enough paid girls that you've become entirely used to Money = Sex, which is incredibly artificial and nowhere near the normal, natural dynamic most people engage in.

Even the most casual sex is usually something that happens when you feel attracted to someone's physique and their personality, not an exchange of cash. It's fundamentally different, and I think it's wired your feelings towards women in a way that is stopping you from getting laid conventionally.

That's great but nobody on here has sex with as many hot girls as I do. I don't believe that it's possible to do for free.