What if all you’ve ever met are low to medium interest women?

[The Duke]

I'd say you can improve a woman's interest level but only early on. She doesn't have to fall in love with you at first sight or drool over your looks and opening line, but if she isn't quickly warming up to you in the beginning stages, you're wasting time.

I once met a girl in my social circle. After about a year I tried to get with her. She pretty much shut me down at door of her apartment one night after some drinking and dancing. Sehx at that point would have been very acceptable. A few months later she asks me why she never heard from me after that. I told her because her interest level wasn't high enough. Another year went by and we got to know each other better. End up together drinking and dancing again. This time she tells me she wants me to go back to her apartment and I could stay. I asked her why the change of heart and she said because she didn't realize I was such a great guy. It took her getting to know me better that raised her interest level. I reminded her she had a chance and lost it and politely declined.

The problem with these situations is they are always a struggle and end up being frustrating. Its a lot of push-pull/hot-cold behavior. Too much work for your investment and there will many bumps in the road.

Dating can be a lot of fun with high interest girls. Low/Mid interest will burn a guy out.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Nah, that is a zero interest women. A low interest women would at least flake on a date. She will say something came up and wont counter offer. If you are persistent enough and dont have a bad attitude then maybe you might eventually land a date and get ghosted afterwards.

Both sound like a waste of time

You guys need to take stock of your own SMV. Be honest with yourself. Hold yourself accountable. Put in the work. Thats the only way you get to be a top 30% guy. Lots of doors open once you make it.

Exactly, too many low smv guys with a Disney mindset thinking they should be the exception to the rule. If they were a girl they wouldn’t date themselves either lol.

 

[corrector]

Both sound like a waste of time

A zero interest women can not waste your time because you know upfront she does not want you. Sure, if you like her its a bit of a burn in the moment, but that does not waste time. Its better you know upfront.

Hope can be a time waster.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

OP, needless to say - what you do in this case is you go after medium interest women and increase their interest through game (charm, charisma, intermittent attention, escalating in the proper windows, etc).

 

[Gamisch]

I’ve been thinking back over my entire dating history and history with women in general and in my entire life I can’t think of a single girl who ever had high interest in me right off the bat. Most of my experience is they’re either low interest or medium interest but they both eventually turn into no interest. I’m talking about girls I want to date, I’ve had women I wasn’t interested in be highly interested in me. I’ve just never had the game to turn low interest into medium interest and medium interest into high interest. Anyone else experience this? I can honestly say I’ve never had a girl be in love with me that I know of.

Are you one of those men who wants what he can't have?

Everybody is build different ofcourse, but I personally love it when I have a woman enjoying the sexual experience. While you are on your journey to up your notch count, you'll (have to!!) experience all kinds of women. I am talking black white green and purple, thick and thin, big and small ect. When you've "been around the block " you'll be able to tell the difference between lukewarm and sincere interest.

After all this , you'll get older. Do you wanna keep spending your (better) years with women out of your league, soley to impress others? Or do you manage to recalibrate your own standards so you'll be able to aim better?

Ofcourse self improvement might make some difference, but will you be able to do that? Again, i rather have a woman thats a hb6 but will feck and suck me off GOOD, then a hb8 whose lukewarm at best. Yes, my preference is the hb8, but I am realistic enough to realize i am not the type of man to pull hb8 and higher at will at this point of my life.

 

[BadBoy89]

I’ve been thinking back over my entire dating history and history with women in general and in my entire life I can’t think of a single girl who ever had high interest in me right off the bat.

Oh man bro. You must be giving off a strange vibe or something. If you look normal and dress ok and decent shape and ok money, you should be able to get high interest women no problem. Now keeping her around and having sex with her, little tricker if she is young and hot, but still, you should be able to do it with your eyes closed.

Ive gotten on a elevator 29th floor. By the time it hit the ground floor I had date with a high interest women. If I can do it, anyone can. There is something you are not telling us.

I’ve just never had the game to turn low interest into medium interest and medium interest into high interest.

This is hard to do it yourself. The only way this can be accomplished is if a hotter younger girl is dating you and she finds out.

I was going out with this one chick. She was hot. She liked me but was a little “meh” too about us. When she went overseas to visit family, I would call her, text her often and she would reply a little sparingly.

A girl I knew, was a friend for 12 years, and the hot girl knew for 2 months, emailed the hot girl and told her to “stay away from me, you should be careful of him.”

Do you know how fast the hot girl phoned me and said “what’s going on?” So all my love, my money, my time, my sex, my effort didn’t mean much to her. Another girl said 1 sentence to her, she woke up.

Anyway get a hotter girl to get her interest level up.

I can honestly say I’ve never had a girl be in love with me that I know of.

Spend time, spend effort, spend some money, compliment them, touch them, etc. Come on bro it‘s not that hard.

 

[corrector]

OP, needless to say - what you do in this case is you go after medium interest women and increase their interest through game (charm, charisma, intermittent attention, escalating in the proper windows, etc).

Why do you think he's burned out?

 

[Robert28]

Oh man bro. You must be giving off a strange vibe or something. If you look normal and dress ok and decent shape and ok money, you should be able to get high interest women no problem. Now keeping her around and having sex with her, little tricker if she is young and hot, but still, you should be able to do it with your eyes closed.

Ive gotten on a elevator 29th floor. By the time it hit the ground floor I had date with a high interest women. If I can do it, anyone can. There is something you are not telling us.



This is hard to do it yourself. The only way this can be accomplished is if a hotter younger girl is dating you and she finds out.

I was going out with this one chick. She was hot. She liked me but was a little “meh” too about us. When she went overseas to visit family, I would call her, text her often and she would reply a little sparingly.

A girl I knew, was a friend for 12 years, and the hot girl knew for 2 months, emailed the hot girl and told her to “stay away from me, you should be careful of him.”

Do you know how fast the hot girl phoned me and said “what’s going on?” So all my love, my money, my time, my sex, my effort didn’t mean much to her. Another girl said 1 sentence to her, she woke up.

Anyway get a hotter girl to get her interest level up.



Spend time, spend effort, spend some money, compliment them, touch them, etc. Come on bro it‘s not that hard.

Lol no weird vibes that I’m giving off. I’m legit being as open and honest about myself as I can be. I will say I’m quiet and kinda shy, but that’s only if I don’t know a girl. I’m not the type to approach out of the blue but I can carry on a conversation easily. I make friends easily with guys, I’m not a loner or anything like that. Hell, my friends wives are ALWAYS asking me who I’m dating or wanting to set me up with girls they know. My dating history is weird. I’ll get friendzoned or rejected by a 6 but an 8 will come along and be interested. I got told I was too short by one girl (I’m 5’10”) but she then starts dating a guy who is 5’8”.lol when I did online dating I could never get passed the second date even though they seemed to go well but they’d ghost or makeup an excuse. I’ve had some bad rejections and experiences in my life that I think hold me back.

 

[corrector]

when I did online dating I could never get passed the second date even though they seemed to go well but they’d ghost or makeup an excuse

Not even once or are we talking about the recent past?

 

[Robert28]

Are you one of those men who wants what he can't have?

Everybody is build different ofcourse, but I personally love it when I have a woman enjoying the sexual experience. While you are on your journey to up your notch count, you'll (have to!!) experience all kinds of women. I am talking black white green and purple, thick and thin, big and small ect. When you've "been around the block " you'll be able to tell the difference between lukewarm and sincere interest.

After all this , you'll get older. Do you wanna keep spending your (better) years with women out of your league, soley to impress others? Or do you manage to recalibrate your own standards so you'll be able to aim better?

Ofcourse self improvement might make some difference, but will you be able to do that? Again, i rather have a woman thats a hb6 but will feck and suck me off GOOD, then a hb8 whose lukewarm at best. Yes, my preference is the hb8, but I am realistic enough to realize i am not the type of man to pull hb8 and higher at will at this point of my life.

I’ve been guilty of wanting what I can’t have but it’s not a reoccurring issue. I honestly go for girls that are equal to those I’ve dated in the past so it’s not like I’m aiming way out of my league or anything. The girls you’re telling me to go for shoot me down or treat me like crap, the 6’s and 7’s are the worst towards me for some reason. It’s rough out there for some dudes!

 

[Robert28]

Not even once or are we talking about the recent past?

Recent past. Last year was the last time I messed with it. Longest relationship I had was a month from online dating but usually it was 2 dates and they’d start acting weird. I never got a flat out “sorry not interested” text. We’d either mutually ghost each other, they’d never make a 3rd date even when I tried to make one, or one girl even broke it off with me when she cancelled on me 5 mins before I was supposed to arrive and she’d even ordered me pizza. Said she was tired and going to eat and go to bed lol I will say I’m Facebook friends with some of the women I’ve been out with even though we don’t talk, and 90% are still single and complain all the time about it.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Why do you think he's burned out?

Not sure. The dating market sucks, but Robert has posted about having moderate success in the past. It seems like he's at a down spot and it's coloring his memories.

Edit - per above, it's his recent past.

So I would say it sounds like dating market attrition. It is getting worse out there. I heard the phrase "60 is the new 40" recently, which I'd never heard before. The delusion is too damn high.

 

[Gamisch]

I’ve been guilty of wanting what I can’t have but it’s not a reoccurring issue. I honestly go for girls that are equal to those I’ve dated in the past so it’s not like I’m aiming way out of my league or anything. The girls you’re telling me to go for shoot me down or treat me like crap, the 6’s and 7’s are the worst towards me for some reason. It’s rough out there for some dudes!

Well i am sorry to tell you, but this means you still aim to high for whatever reason. Perhaps you have a unrealistic view of yourself ( too good vs realistic).

Far as i know there are always some women that have a lower SMV than you. But again, having realistic expectations is important in making the right decisions and chasing the right prospects.

 

[Robert28]

Well i am sorry to tell you, but this means you still aim to high for whatever reason. Perhaps you have a unrealistic view of yourself ( too good vs realistic).

Far as i know there are always some women that have a lower SMV than you. But again, having realistic expectations is important in making the right decisions and chasing the right prospects.

I could be but actually I doubt it’s got anything to do with what I think of myself. I probably rate myself lower than I am to be honest. I’ve got self esteem issues and I’m insecure about my looks, always have been.

 

[Gamisch]

I could be but actually I doubt it’s got anything to do with what I think of myself. I probably rate myself lower than I am to be honest. I’ve got self esteem issues and I’m insecure about my looks, always have been.

Well, I wouldn't be too hard on myself if i was you. Getting the date is already a accomplishment. So you should focus (in detail) on what happens during those dates ,and ofcourse your presentation. I bet the forum can help you figure it out.

Whats your goal? A LTR? To feck? You gotta be confident somewhere, personally I always feel like I'll feck medium interest in to high interest.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Well, I wouldn't be too hard on myself if i was you. Getting the date is already a accomplishment. So you should focus (in detail) on what happens during those dates ,and ofcourse your presentation. I bet the forum can help you figure it out.

Whats your goal? A LTR? To feck? You gotta be confident somewhere, personally I always feel like I'll feck medium interest in to high interest.

Getting her wet is the best way to increase interest. Be it by innuendo, well-done sexting, or actual phucking. (After you charm her/build comfort for a bit, of course).

 

[Robert28]

Well, I wouldn't be too hard on myself if i was you. Getting the date is already a accomplishment. So you should focus (in detail) on what happens during those dates ,and ofcourse your presentation. I bet the forum can help you figure it out.

Whats your goal? A LTR? To feck? You gotta be confident somewhere, personally I always feel like I'll feck medium interest in to high interest.

I’ve always been a LTR guy but when I hit my mid 30’s it’s like I can’t hardly find one. I mean I’ve had some lays that were just that but they were never with girls I’d want to date seriously. My last girl I dated for a month she told me “we are so alike but yet so different, you’re a kind thoughtful man but I need more out of a partner”. And that was a day after I’d installed two doors in her house. She’s even tried to contact me since then but I ignored it. I’m not coping when I say many of the women who have dumped me are still single and out there complaining. It’s them, it’s not all me because if I was so bad they’d be snatched up by the next guy in no time but they aren’t so that tells me something was wrong with them but they projected it onto me.

 

[Robert28]

Getting her wet is the best way to increase interest. Be it by innuendo, well-done sexting, or actual phucking. (After you charm her/build comfort for a bit, of course).

That’s not always true though. One girl I dated a couple years ago got super wet every time we fvcked but one time she couldn’t get wet and I was ready to go, and then I lost my boner because she killed my mood and then she dumps me the next day lol

 

[Gamisch]

I’ve always been a LTR guy but when I hit my mid 30’s it’s like I can’t hardly find one. I mean I’ve had some lays that were just that but they were never with girls I’d want to date seriously. My last girl I dated for a month she told me “we are so alike but yet so different, you’re a kind thoughtful man but I need more out of a partner”. And that was a day after I’d installed two doors in her house. She’s even tried to contact me since then but I ignored it. I’m not coping when I say many of the women who have dumped me are still single and out there complaining. It’s them, it’s not all me because if I was so bad they’d be snatched up by the next guy in no time but they aren’t so that tells me something was wrong with them but they projected it onto me.

This are not the times to be an ltr guy. You gotta decide what you want, if it's realistic and possible and just play the field.

Yeah you gotta be reluctant about doing favors for women you date. Postpone it as long as possible. As you've learned the hard way, being too nice actually turns them off.

"We are so alike " sounds to me like "you are more like a bff than an exciting man ". Harsh facts bro..talk less to them ober whatapp ect,or perhaps i should say, give off less BF vibes when you interact with women. Let THEM decide they wanna push things further. Just feck them good and focus on your own progress in life.

 

[Robert28]

This are not the times to be an ltr guy. You gotta decide what you want, if it's realistic and possible and just play the field.

Yeah you gotta be reluctant about doing favors for women you date. Postpone it as long as possible. As you've learned the hard way, being too nice actually turns them off.

"We are so alike " sounds to me like "you are more like a bff than an exciting man ". Harsh facts bro..talk less to them ober whatapp ect,or perhaps i should say, give off less BF vibes when you interact with women. Let THEM decide they wanna push things further. Just feck them good and focus on your own progress in life.

No you’re right in everything you said. She even said “I feel like this turned into us being good friends” and after her wall of text I just replied back with “I’m not interested in being your friend” and that’s all I said. I didn’t say “yes this has been fun, I enjoyed dating you, blah blah blah” or anything like that. I always knew not to do favors for women you aren’t dating or not sleeping with but I didn’t realize to hold off on them for women you’d being seeing and sleeping with.