What experience(s) lead to you unplugging? Seeing the world as it is.

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I know for a lot of men, they may have had multiple experiences, or it may have been a gradual realization. This is true for me.
I don't think my "story" is unique in any way, and there have been plenty of people who have had worse situations.

A little background: I was raised by my Father and Stepmom (got together when I was 5 years old). My father has 2 sons, and my step-mom already had 2 sons (step-brothers) before they got together. My dad was a single father who married a single mom. They had one son together (half-brother). Basically, I have 4 brothers (blended family). They're still married to this day.

When I was 24, I lost my virginity to a girl I dated for 7 months. She's not attractive, but with me being naive and losing my virginity, combined with a Scarcity Mindset (no other options/no confidence) and plugged in, it was a recipe for disaster. I made just about every mistake I could make, and I entered her frame. Also, I was a loser at the time (no long term value). There were definitely red flags I overlooked.

I ended up getting a trailer with her, that she put in her name. Two of my brothers (Full brother and a step brother) moved in with us, because it had 3 bedrooms. After we broke up, she kicked me out, and I moved back in with my parents. It was a rough time, but I accepted the situation. However, my 2 brothers continued to live there. I didn't think much of the arrangement. I trusted my brothers, whom I had grown up with.

The part that still bothers me to this day is what happened after the break up. A few weeks after I moved out, my real brother (full) told me that he noticed my ex and step brother (the one who lived there) were sleeping together. He hesitated to tell me because I'm his older brother, and he knows I couldn't control my temper. He probably thought I was going to take it out on him. He confronted them about it, and they got pissed. They got into a huge argument, and he told me about it.

I got mad, but I didn't know what to do, this isn't something I was expecting. I was in total shock. He's not my biological brother, but I still thought of him as a brother. We grew up in the same house, and slept in the same bedrooms, and raised by the same parents. It felt like betrayal. Like I got stabbed in the back. The break up is what it is. It's not surprising that she moved on. But I never expected her to move on with one of my brothers.

Now, this wasn't just a break up. This had the potential to split the family. That was my mindset. I was angry for sure, and wanted to hurt him in every way possible. My plugged in mindset didn't want to stir up any problems in the family either. That was a hard balancing act. I ended up talking to him about it one on one. I could tell he didn't want to talk about it, because I'm his oldest brother, and I guess he had no idea what I was going to say to him. He had everybody in his ear. He had no other options with women either. I think most of the people he listened to (stepmom, his mother), cousins, my ex, his friends, told him not to worry about it, and that he did nothing wrong. I don't know for sure, but that's likely what happened. There's other women out there, but he chose my ex, of all people. I talked to him, and told him I wasn't ok with it, and that I don't like my ex, and I wasn't talking to her. Again, being in a blue pill/beta mindset, I didn't hit him. In hindsight, I would have punched him as hard as I could (if I was unplugged). Over the next several years, I kept thinking it was my fault, and I didn't want to split my family over the issue. I just let the chips fall where they fell.

Even though my father took my side on the issue (I'm his oldest son), he eventually told me to get over it. And to stop letting it get to me. Not bad advice I guess. My stepmom took her son's side on the issue. I ended up getting into several arguments with her, because I couldn't believe she didn't see what I saw. Basically, she was my mother figure growing up, and she tried to play both sides (me and her son), but based on reading between the lines, and the big arguments I got into with her, it was clear she saw nothing wrong with what happened. Basically, my parents sided with their biological kid (obvious in hindsight).

Also, the reason it still bothers me to this day is because they got married a few months after the break up and had 2 kids together. She monkey branched to him (knew she was going to him next). Over the next several years, birthday parties, holidays, were awkward between us. We barely spoke. Tension is still there (at least on my end).

After I became unplugged, I slowly started to look at the world differently. But, this situation still bothered me. So, I decided to not have anything to do with him, and no longer consider him a brother. I told my parents and other brothers this. While my stepmom was fine with it, it caused a lot of tension and arguments between us. Unsurprisingly, looking back, while it still pisses me off, the family was split on the issue down biological lines. My stepmom loves me, but not like her own children. When push comes to shove, she's going to side with her biological sons. Same with my father. My stepmom just views me as an extension of my father, and loves me conditionally. It is what it is. I think the experience jaded me. I accepted it, but it still bothers me. Not because of the break up, but because of losing a brother to betrayal. Me and my ex don't speak. But I don't know if she completely understands what she caused between me and my ex-brother. I get the nuts and bolts of it (emotional disconnect, better long term value), but my entire ego was built on loyalty within the family. And it came crashing down because of this situation. Even other people in my family eventually either told me to get over it, or blamed it on me.

I've had other eye opening realizations since I unplugged a couple of years ago. I had other experiences like most others, but this one had the biggest impact on my becoming red pill aware. I'm just glad I didn't get married to her or have kids with her, because that would have been an even bigger disaster.

This is essentially a rant from me, but if anyone else had a similar experience they're willing to share, feel free to share.
 

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Milk Bros

Uhm, sorry. It was right there!

D@mn. That was a hard story for sure. I would have felt angry. So f0cking angry that I would have invested and focused all my time and energy in pulling a younger and hotter girl just to feel better about the whole thing.
 

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Milk Bros

Uhm, sorry. It was right there!

D@mn. That was a hard story for sure. I would have felt angry. So f0cking angry that I would have invested and focused all my time and energy in pulling a younger and hotter girl just to feel better about the whole thing.
I think you're onto something.
 

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I am amazed at how many folks in AL live in trailers.
In the poor or rural areas, there's a bunch of them. Either that or old houses. Near colleges/universities (Ex: Auburn & Alabama), there's more apartments and better houses. Lower cost of living (good or bad, depending on how you look at it).

I live about 15 minutes from a major SEC college, and I don't plan on moving anytime soon.
 
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OP rough wake up.
Anyone looks up my posts I said this a few times.
Your own brother will bang your girl. Bet money on it.
Rough way to be RPed but now you know.
Ive never experienced that way but I banged a GFs mom once upon a time and the cheating I have seen these women do is astounding.
The church is no barrerier either.

The real question I have for the manosphere is when is it going to realize that girls can spin plates and often can sleep with guys and keep them hidden from each other.

This idea that a girl can fck only one guy at a time is a dam falsehood
You're right.

Girls spin plates naturally, and most guys don't realize it. And never will. And the ones that become red pill aware, a lot of them will try to plug themselves back in, because reality hurts. But you can't unsee it.

Life is unfair, and that's just how it goes.
 

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My exwife and all the random girls that came after her helped me unplug. I came from a very solid family, with little drama, no divorce, etc., solid relationships with grandparents/aunts/uncles, etc.

After I went deep into the dating world I got to see how dysfunctional most of society is. I got to see how flakey women are, how wh0rish many of them act. These women were living by the law of the jungle. If they could, they would. Thats when I started accepting them for what they were. When a man plays the game like they do he will beat them every time.

When we let women run free and wild like they do now, we end up with present day chaos.
 

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This is why women hate that men figured out the “friendzone.” These orbiters are all plates and women don’t care if guys get hurt or burned in the process. Just like a Pezz dispenser of d!ck. “I don’t like this one, I think I’ll try another.” What’s cold is they do it with so little remorse. I get the whole loyalty thing, that would make every interaction with them awkward from here on out.

My coworker‘s parents divorced and did like a spouse swap. His dad is married to a new woman and her ex-husband married his mom. So now he sees his parents married to different people but they are all interconnected. Sounds awkward as an outsider but they figured out how to make it work. Pretty cold she monkey branched to your brother. They had something going on the whole time behind your back. Best you move on and find a better woman.
 

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When a man plays the game like they do he will beat them every time.
You're absolutely right. I think women instinctively know this.

Once a man has the same information as women, it's over. Game recognizes game.
 

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When I first discovered and got to see the band Pantera on their last tour as a teenager. Things were never the same after that. I had ascended.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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I was in a marriage that was dead for the sake of children (yes I know). I did a great deal of self help work, read books targeted at men in marriages on how to improve things etc.

This led me to find a forum called MMSL run by a dude called Athol Kay, dedicated to improving married men’s sex lives. I participated in that forum for years, and at some point someone posted a link to Roosh’s forums.

That’s when I started becoming red pill aware. I then worked up the courage to divorce. And the rest is history.
 
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I was in a marriage that was dead for the sake of children (yes I know). I did a great deal of self help work, read books targeted at men in marriages on how to improve things etc.

This led me to find a forum called MMSL run by a dude called Athol Kay, dedicated to improving married men’s sex loves. I participated in that forum for years, and at some point someone posted a link to Roosh’s forums.

That’s when I started becoming red pill aware. I then worked up the courage to divorce. And the rest is history.
^^^ sorry brother. Hope everything has been infinitely rich since then and continues. I have never been married but was close to it once and when that came to an end, was like a bolt out of the blue. Really tore me up at the time.
 

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Tbh, it started with needing general girl advice because I knew nothing. What initially red pilled me was being a novice minority in a college environment.
 

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I don't think I was ever really plugged in. But if I was, then my divorce, and events that led up to it, would have been it.
 

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When I first discovered and got to see the band Pantera on their last tour as a teenager. Things were never the same after that. I had ascended.
I can only imagine
 

Create self-fulfilling prophecies. Always assume the positive. Assume she likes you. Assume she wants to talk to you. Assume she wants to go out with you. When you think positive, positive things happen.

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I've had multiple experiences thus far, which helped me realize the actual difference between reality and the Disney fairy tales.

- At the beginning/mid High School - I had classmates from rich/political families, which automatically gave them status without them lifting a finger. And also had enough money to provide girls with interesting experiences and have cars early on. This was my introduction to the Red Pill

- At the end of High School - some classmates were my height, but grew 2-3'' in a single summer, becoming 6'3''. That senior HS year, I lost girls that I liked to them, because of their height. This was my introduction to the Black Pill

Also various other experiences and friend zones, and the final thing that unraveled the man behind the curtain was an STR that ended when I was 30/31.
 
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When I realized women don't give a fukk about your feelings and vulnerability is seen as a sign of weakness.
 
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