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Hey your the one crying over the evil racist white man electing this fat chick....and everything else. Feminist bait and switch tactic again?bish0p said:
What does the election of a morbidly obese college homecoming queen indicate?
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Precious, The Help, The Blind Side
All Pet N!gga movies. Try to portray the black person as an inferior asexual person and that whites are better then them. To be honest, I can't even blame anyone for it. If you know that you have competition then you would definitely try to "show" them who is boss and bring them down.
I mean look at black people on tv today. Who has the most influences on today's younger black people? Rappers. And who is paying these rappers millions of dollars to say the dumbest sht and dress like retards? Corporate America
All Pet N!gga movies. Try to portray the black person as an inferior asexual person and that whites are better then them. To be honest, I can't even blame anyone for it. If you know that you have competition then you would definitely try to "show" them who is boss and bring them down.
I mean look at black people on tv today. Who has the most influences on today's younger black people? Rappers. And who is paying these rappers millions of dollars to say the dumbest sht and dress like retards? Corporate America
Corporate america is not the culprit because making money is important.PrettyBoyAJ said:Precious, The Help, The Blind Side
All Pet N!gga movies. Try to portray the black person as an inferior asexual person and that whites are better then them. To be honest, I can't even blame anyone for it. If you know that you have competition then you would definitely try to "show" them who is boss and bring them down.
I mean look at black people on tv today. Who has the most influences on today's younger black people? Rappers. And who is paying these rappers millions of dollars to say the dumbest sht and dress like retards? Corporate America
I blame the young black people who buy into the stereotypes and not thinking outside of the box as they get older.
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Would have thought 10 replies of you getting all pissy over me calling out that guy for blaming every life problem on white guys would have been your tip off.bish0p said:
Wow ,pulling out the victim card when you didn't even mean to that time. Impressive.bish0p said:
waaaaah
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I am not blaming any race. I am just saying you can't turn a blind eye to the fact that even a mere hundred years ago there was open slavery.Danger said:
To completely write that off, and pretend that it didn't exist is what is racist.
Now, as a white male you may not "own up to it", or you may feel unfortunate that because you are not black, you will not have the advantage (in an otherwise equal contest) of being appointed, say, as a faculty member to a university for instance.
Yeah, I understand that this puts the white male at an all time lower ranking, but this is a fact, one may or may not like it.
On a more personal level (perhaps because I am lucky to lead a privileged life), I choose to sympathize with the unlucky homecoming queen in this case, and I should not be criticized for choosing to do so, just because I am white.
This may sound naive, but I don't see a reason not to. If I was a German, I'd probably feel bad about WWII and the Jews, too.
OK - I'll stop before Mr. Tits shreds me now ;P I am just sayin' Tits!
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I love fried chicken, too. In fact I am starving. I want some fried chicken.bish0p said:
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My people never owned any slaves. They all migrated away from the east coast to get away from the many problems festering there. My people never had black employees or tenants. We didn't try to associate with blacks, but we didn't cause problems for them, either.
Whatever was wrong before, and whatever is wrong now, we had no hand in making it that way. I, my father, and his father before him, spoke against mistreatment when we saw it happening.
So why is it that my generation, and the younger folks too, are constantly accused of being racists and of being responsible for anything that's wrong for blacks? It's not right.
You liberals are going to have to realize that shaming doesn't work on most white men because they know they have nothing to be ashamed of. Reach into your apron pockets and pick out another girly trick to throw.
BTW I don't feel a damn bit sad about Jews. They sh1t upon the moralities and practices of the Christian societies they moved into. They refused to assimilate and continued to live as bizarre and xenophobic foreigner groups no matter how friendly and tolerant were their new neighbors. Over and over again, their refusal to join into the community cost them whenever some political opportunist came along and needed a convenient scapegoat.
Whatever was wrong before, and whatever is wrong now, we had no hand in making it that way. I, my father, and his father before him, spoke against mistreatment when we saw it happening.
So why is it that my generation, and the younger folks too, are constantly accused of being racists and of being responsible for anything that's wrong for blacks? It's not right.
You liberals are going to have to realize that shaming doesn't work on most white men because they know they have nothing to be ashamed of. Reach into your apron pockets and pick out another girly trick to throw.
BTW I don't feel a damn bit sad about Jews. They sh1t upon the moralities and practices of the Christian societies they moved into. They refused to assimilate and continued to live as bizarre and xenophobic foreigner groups no matter how friendly and tolerant were their new neighbors. Over and over again, their refusal to join into the community cost them whenever some political opportunist came along and needed a convenient scapegoat.
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Some interesting points. And I promise to think about it. Yes, you have every right to call it bullshít; but I think this isn't the right strategy, especially if you are doing this in the name of a cause.Danger said:
You are not even convincing me with this example, how are you going to convince the skinny black girl who wasn't elected homecoming queen that this wasn't about race?...
You have some novel and interesting ideas but I think, a black girl being insulted isn't the best example to talk about "white guilt", even when you may be right.
This makes the whole thing very marginal, and it's easy to be called racist, even though nobody today was a slave-owner. From an historical standpoint, nobody "today" argument sounds somewhat naive. Then who will be accountable? Generations, nations and races are connected to each other, and today Germans can't really argue they can't be held accountable for WWII. On an individual level, perhaps....
All I am saying is, there are other very relevant examples to point out these. Django Unchained could be one example. Or the video Burroughs posted is another clear one... But you don't get to talk about white guilt when a bunch of morons pull this prank, especially when all the circumstantial evidence suggest there were elements of racism (Southern school, gorgeous opponent being white (and not black), young people involved, so on)...
It just doesn't look right.
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I don't know this cheering to the killings of whites, thread. I am not cheering to that, and I didn't like the movie if you are referring to that either.
It's been called racist by black and white artists everywhere.
I am not aware of what you mean by that example, I came here to see the homecoming queen.
As for historical accountability: You raise some important questions. I don't know the answers to all of those, but what I know is your answer is no answer either, that is, the "guilt" or the "accountability" fizzles away exactly when the generation who was responsible is renewed by their sons and daughters.
My guess is, it's somewhere in between. There's a time constant that takes some time depending on the severity of the crime. Remember: On an international law level, Germans are still accountable for the Holocaust.
As an individual, "Danger" isn't guilty of any crime, obviously. But as an intellectual, you have to be aware of recent history and the crimes committed by a category of people to one another. You happen to be white, so you belong to that category by loose association. It's not like you could be tried for what they did, but you are (as an intellectual), expected to show at least an understanding of what a lot of black people may feel about the issue.
It is the oppressed that remembers bitterly, not the oppressor. That's why it becomes more offensive and this is a de-facto civil right issue if elements of racism are found in this distasteful homecoming choice.
Whites can point out racism, too. In fact they do, and -at least- I am not saying it's whining.
What I am saying is you are choosing a wrong example to point out your truth.
It's been called racist by black and white artists everywhere.
I am not aware of what you mean by that example, I came here to see the homecoming queen.
As for historical accountability: You raise some important questions. I don't know the answers to all of those, but what I know is your answer is no answer either, that is, the "guilt" or the "accountability" fizzles away exactly when the generation who was responsible is renewed by their sons and daughters.
My guess is, it's somewhere in between. There's a time constant that takes some time depending on the severity of the crime. Remember: On an international law level, Germans are still accountable for the Holocaust.
As an individual, "Danger" isn't guilty of any crime, obviously. But as an intellectual, you have to be aware of recent history and the crimes committed by a category of people to one another. You happen to be white, so you belong to that category by loose association. It's not like you could be tried for what they did, but you are (as an intellectual), expected to show at least an understanding of what a lot of black people may feel about the issue.
It is the oppressed that remembers bitterly, not the oppressor. That's why it becomes more offensive and this is a de-facto civil right issue if elements of racism are found in this distasteful homecoming choice.
Whites can point out racism, too. In fact they do, and -at least- I am not saying it's whining.
What I am saying is you are choosing a wrong example to point out your truth.
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Tell me in all honestly, do you think cheering the murder of whites is racist?
In real life maybe, but not in a movie. I can enjoy a movie about the KKK without wanting to be in the KKK.
In real life maybe, but not in a movie. I can enjoy a movie about the KKK without wanting to be in the KKK.
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In real life, I hope you don't seriously mean "maybe" it would be racist.
If the Chinese were to invade and conquer the US, and then turn all of us into slaves, it would make us hate Asians and want to kill them all. That's racist, but it's also perfectly understandable. Oppression is the controlling variable, not race.
If the Chinese were to invade and conquer the US, and then turn all of us into slaves, it would make us hate Asians and want to kill them all. That's racist, but it's also perfectly understandable. Oppression is the controlling variable, not race.
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Your point in all this is, because some people [who?] cheer [how?] the murder of whites [when?], we can't criticize the election of an obese homecoming queen even when there's strong suspicion of racial prejudice?Danger said:
How can the circumstances of her election be so irrelevant to be written off like that, while you are bringing in an altogether different example. Are you absolutely sure nobody was putting the "black women in character", here? If so, I 'd like to know how you know that.
This cheering the murder of whites has nothing to do with the case in question. It is a separate issue we can discuss. But I don't follow the relevance here. I don't see why it needs to be brought up for you to make your point in this concrete example we're discussing.
I don't think an evasive attitude like (but you hit me first!) this is going to convince anyone in a sensitive issue like this. To make a case for anti-white racism, first you need to make peace with anti-black racism, which is well-documented. I want to be convinced by you, but you are acting like racism never existed in this country. I just don't buy it.
Cheers,
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describe a situation in which a white person is on the receiving end of discrimination.
Gratz would be the textbook answer, quite literally, because it is in textbooks to teach affirmative action law. Gratz and Grutter go together. The first case throws out a specific affirmative action program, but the second case says other similar programs are probably ok.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratz_v._Bollinger
on June 23, 2003, Chief Justice Rehnquist, writing for the Court, ruled the University's point system's "predetermined point allocations" that awarded 20 points to underrepresented minorities "ensures that the diversity contributions of applicants cannot be individually assessed" and was therefore unconstitutional.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grutter_v._Bollinger
The court held that a race-conscious admissions process that may favor "underrepresented minority groups," but that also took into account many other factors evaluated on an individual basis for every applicant, did not amount to a quota system that would have been unconstitutional
Gratz would be the textbook answer, quite literally, because it is in textbooks to teach affirmative action law. Gratz and Grutter go together. The first case throws out a specific affirmative action program, but the second case says other similar programs are probably ok.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratz_v._Bollinger
on June 23, 2003, Chief Justice Rehnquist, writing for the Court, ruled the University's point system's "predetermined point allocations" that awarded 20 points to underrepresented minorities "ensures that the diversity contributions of applicants cannot be individually assessed" and was therefore unconstitutional.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grutter_v._Bollinger
The court held that a race-conscious admissions process that may favor "underrepresented minority groups," but that also took into account many other factors evaluated on an individual basis for every applicant, did not amount to a quota system that would have been unconstitutional
So where's the "oppression" on my part? Pictures, or it never happened.
You're not going to find any pics of me opening the refrigerator and force-feeding that hog with layer cake and Spam sandwiches.
I didn't go to all the sororities and convince them to "fight harmful images of bulemic, anorexic party girls by electing a normal body type." And I didn't threaten to revoke their good standing with the university if they didn't.
So leave me out of your hate-whitey revenge crap.
The solution to the riddle was already posted on this thread. A hot white chick narrowly lost. There was your white male and black male vote.
Precious is the first non-Greek to win the title. Which proves the sororities were lined up for her (if not, they would have voted in one of their own as always). She won it in a run-off, which proves she had substantial support through two rounds of campaigning. A black chick won the student body presidency for the first time in spring, which proves there's an ongoing organization on behalf of black chicks and against all males and white chicks. Plus the calendar accident that the first black student was enrolled there exactly 50 years before, so it's an "anniversary" that "must be honored." Chicks can easily be manipulated by that kind of sh1t.
You're not going to find any pics of me opening the refrigerator and force-feeding that hog with layer cake and Spam sandwiches.
I didn't go to all the sororities and convince them to "fight harmful images of bulemic, anorexic party girls by electing a normal body type." And I didn't threaten to revoke their good standing with the university if they didn't.
So leave me out of your hate-whitey revenge crap.
The solution to the riddle was already posted on this thread. A hot white chick narrowly lost. There was your white male and black male vote.
Precious is the first non-Greek to win the title. Which proves the sororities were lined up for her (if not, they would have voted in one of their own as always). She won it in a run-off, which proves she had substantial support through two rounds of campaigning. A black chick won the student body presidency for the first time in spring, which proves there's an ongoing organization on behalf of black chicks and against all males and white chicks. Plus the calendar accident that the first black student was enrolled there exactly 50 years before, so it's an "anniversary" that "must be honored." Chicks can easily be manipulated by that kind of sh1t.
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Derp. What's more likely? A welfare state created to siphon wealth from the taxpayer to LaFawnda's 3 alpha sprog thuglets or racist whitey's "conspiracy" to vote this black orca in? You being a proponent of the latter of course. The difference is one's real the others an excuse to blame a race for your shortcomings in life.bish0p said:
Your confusing stating facts with your waaaaaaah whitey whining.
You mean ( . )( . ) "facts" that chooses to focus on the short comings of one group of people and then apply those "facts" to an entire race due to laziness?( . )( . ) said:Derp. What's more likely? A welfare state created to siphon wealth from the taxpayer to LaFawnda's 3 alpha sprog thuglets or racist whitey's "conspiracy" to vote this black orca in? You being a proponent of the latter of course. The difference is one's real the others an excuse to blame a race for your shortcomings in life.
Your confusing stating facts with your waaaaaaah whitey whining.
You're just as bad as the people you despise.
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"Despise"? Don't be a drama queen.bish0p said:
Sounds like your pissed more and more people are starting to call you out for using "white racists" as a scapegoat for your lifes problems. I'd get use to it if I were you, I'm sure you've noticed within the more socially aware red pill sites this is becoming more prevalent with each passing year also.
Like I said before we have seen 40+ years of white guilt pushed by self hating liberal douche's, now it appears to be slowly but surely on the way out it.
This is a good thing btw, for EVERYONE.