What does it mean to you to be rich?

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highconscienceness said:
Dear fellow,

Living in a first world country does not make you rich, although I know ghetto in America could seem like a paradise to some. Furthermore it is meaningless to have a great health care in a country where you are poisoned via food, air, water, and media. You do not have access to greatest foods on the planet unless you growing it yourself. What does being rich give you if you and your children have greater chance of mental disease, birth defects, obesity and cancer? Finally, there are very few small businesses out there that can remain small for long, most have to get big or get swallowed by the market and competition. Finally, how will you be remembered after your money runs out?

Let me tell you what being rich means to me.

1. Living in a part of the world where I'm the most happiest, for example my birth place, where I grew up.
2. I have my own land with fresh air, and water.
3. I have freedom to enjoy my life, don't have to be fancy, just the ability to do what I want when I want it is enough.
4. I'm well known and respected in all 3 areas, cops, government, and the underworld.
5. I'm a contributing member of society, and will be though good of after I die.

I'm afraid that for me your idea of rich is just plain lazy and scared.



Indeed. When I used to live in AmeriKKKa I had plenty of money and no time. Now it's different, I have enough money and plenty of time. For example I can leave my job anytime to take care of my own business, all the while I earn on average twice more than the average person here. I can walk up to any stranger and strike up a conversation that can go deep and personal, unlike in AmeriKKKa where conversations are shallower than Mekong river during drought. I do have access to greatest foods, it's as near as local market, and everything is freshly grown. Vegetables and grain are not genetically modified, meat is not injected with hormones, water is not poisoned with fluoride. Heck son, my IQ went up ever since I moved out of AmeriKKKa.



I'm happy to report that I already have all of the above.


The best thing of all is that here I'm not a rice, spook, spick, or nigga. I'm in fact a patriot who left the country, got an education, saw the system for what it is, and came back to make his own country better. :up:



I bet you thinking this man is a fool, he will never get rich in Russia. They showed on TV recently a Russian businessman buy 2nd biggest castle in London. While I wouldn't invest into castles in London, I'm afraid of ghosts, with that money I'd probably build me a ski resort in the mountains that could bring income in the winter, and then a water park, that could bring money in the summer, and in the spring and fall I could kick it in a resort in Cambodia!



I'm afraid my dear friend rich are poor in so many ways, and they needlessly sacrifice their lives for useless valuables. Can't take it with you to the other side son. The only thing you can do is ensure you have a good life and your children have a good life. What's the point to AmeriKKKa if your children are poisoned and their minds corrupted? What's the point to AmeriKKKa if your country is some 3rd world ghetto splams dump? I'm sorry but I can not live in America the way it is right now.
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Espi said:
Stop living the lie and admit that you LOVE cash...having more money is what being rich is all about...MORE MORE MORE...one of my favorite words...
Actually I for one could care less about money.

Being rich for me is obtaining all the knowledge in the world. There's a latin phrase that is a great example of this:

"Scientia est potentia"
 

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Espi said:
Stop living the lie and admit that you LOVE cash...having more money is what being rich is all about...MORE MORE MORE...one of my favorite words...

If you had two choices: less or more money in your wallet...which would you pick? If you're honest, you'll admit that MORE cash is the right answer. If you chose less, you're a fvucking liar.

And, as for your purist ideals about inventors, etc., I'd rather be American Airlines than the Wright Brothers...originality is highly overrated IMO.

I'd rather be rich than original.
That's great but completely unrelated. I was discussing how a person's value to society cannot be summed up in a dollar amount.

Read it again.
 

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Danger and Alle, you guys both make good points but I wanted to elaborate:


Danger

Money DOES represent the direct contribution a person makes to society as a whole.
No it doesn't. Let's not even think of "money" as the green stuff with dead presidents on it. In this case, think of money as "profits". Profits are obtained through "selling" something higher then it costs. When I "sell" someone something that generates a profit, it does not necessarily make a good contribution on society as a whole.

Let's look at pharmaceuticals. Drug dealers sell illegal drugs all day long, higher then the cost they invested to obtain them. Drug dealers are not making a good contribution to society as a whole. However, doctors and hospitals are.



Alle Gory

What about artists? What about inventors? What about motivational speakers and counselors? What about protesters who stand against abuse and injustice? What about mathematicians, teachers, the founders of Wikipedia? They have little to no money, yet they contribute.
This isn't true either. I know MANY artists who make alot of money. Inventors that make alot of money. Motivational speakers and counselors that make alot of money. Protestors can make alot of money if they find a way to turn their protest into a radio show, talk show, or something to generate revenue by bringing together like minded individuals (i.e. Glenn Beck). And all teachers are not poor, it depends upon where you TEACH. I know many teachers making over six figures a year.

Again, the argument should center on "profits." What do you have (product, service, knowledge, etc) that someone would buy for more then it costs for you to create or offer it?

Also as far as a person's "worth," well, it depends on if we are talking about in terms of the IRS or in terms of God. In God's eyes, he's no respecter of persons, so we are all equal in God's eyes. We are all equal in terms of the US Constitution. In terms of the IRS, in terms of business, your value is tied to the amount of revenue you generate. In the eyes of the IRS and the business world, Lebron James is much more valuable then a 5th grade Teacher.
 

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To answer the original question, what does it mean to me to be rich? First off, I laugh when people always jump up and say, "Money doesn't mean anything to me!" I've been homeless, trust me, when you have NO MONEY, you can't do shyt which includes feeding yourself.

So let's get real, money does matter. Being rich to me is operating at the highest efficiency and obtaining the best results I could obtain in all areas of life:

> Financial
> Academic
> Fitness/Health
> Social Life
> Love Life
> Family Life
> Spiritual Life

Financial is listed first because (and I'm going to keep it real, unlike those posting that "money doesn't matter") when your finances are not in order, when you don't have ENOUGH money, that affects all of the other areas.

- If my finances aren't in order, I can't pay for college.

- If my finances aren't in order, the stress harms my health, furthermore, I can't afford to eat properly.

- If my finances aren't in order, I can't have a social life. I can't afford to go out, buy clothes, etc.

- If my finances aren't in order, forget a decent love life with a quality chick.

- If my finances aren't in order and I am responsible for a family? God help me!

- If my finances aren't in order, my spiritual life is harmed because I have low peace, low joy, low fulfillment.

Is money everything? To be honest, I think money is the first step to everything. And when I say money it doesn't have to be a million dollars, but you need a decent level of income to be able to live a fulfilled life. Please STOP with the "money doesn't mean anything to me" bullshyt.
 

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Espi said:
Great! Since you could care less about money, please PM me your bank routing and account numbers. Or just make out a check to "Espi" for all remainding funds in your account.
Sure, let me get a bank first.
 

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Danger, well, from a "majority of businesses" standpoint I guess you could say that. But:

> Strippers
> Bars
> Night Clubs
> Porn
> Drug Dealers
> Illegal Gun Trade
> Bad Salesmen

All of these above make profits or "money" but do they make a good contribution on society as a whole? Again, the entire phrase of "making a good contribution on society as whole" I think is just a wrong phrase to use. Most businesses don't operate in a way that benefits the entire society, instead they work to benefit a sector. And the basis of their operations is profitability. How many businesses do you know that work to benefit all of society instead of a specific sector or sectors? Does Coke work to benefit all of society or just to benefit the passtime "thirst" quench? Does the NBA work to benefit all of society or just the sports fan?

Whether you make a good contribution, bad contribution, no contribution, or a semi-contribution, in this case it really doesn't matter. All that matters is that you profit, you earn more then it costed for you to offer/create it, that's what it comes down to.
 
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