What does it mean to be an EASY guy?

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Girls say that they do not want easy guys.
Girls TEND to flake if you show you no signs of sexual attraction to them after first date! Hell, they often flake even if you didn't try to rub her **** during the first kissing session!

They like JERKS because jerks express their SEXUALITY and they let girls know that they want them.


BUT...lets get back to the first statement...girls don't like easy guys, but JERKS = EASY GUYS (they are clear about what they want right off the bet and early on!!!).

If you are showing a girl on the first date (or even before that) that you want her with eye contact and you kiss her - she KNOWS you want her! Doesn't that make you easy and make you something they do not like? Yet, they LOVE that!

WTF?
 

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Easy = Doormat

Easy means no mystery, no challenge, no putting himself first, no saying no, etc.
 

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whistler said:
Easy = Doormat

Easy means no mystery, no challenge, no putting himself first, no saying no, etc.
But how do those things make you HARD?

Like, there is nothing a woman CAN do to make me change my opinion on something.

Like, its not because I try to be hard, not because I try to play them!

If I think that executing Hussein was not the right thing to do then its my opinion and no amount of p*ssy can change that! Its just my OPINION and how I think and how I define myself.

Do women perceive that as HARD to GET? What does it have to do with being GOTTEN? Like, her opposite opinion and her liking color blue and me not liking it has nothing to do with anyone being GOTTEN by anyone.

Like, she likes blue and I don't, and I show it, but I still want to f*ck her just as bad.

A girl having opposite opinions doesn't influence me, but it doesn't work against me wanting her UNLESS she disses me. However, girls almost never diss me...they are nice to me.
 

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Well, you're dead wrong about Saddam, but being suave definitely involves maintaining your own opinions. Close-mindedness isn't required, but you definitely don't start agreeing with garbage just to make people like you. Doing that doesn't work well anyway.

I think being sexual yet also dominant/controlling is probably the way to go.

Learning to use push-pull wouldn't hurt either. (oscillating balance between being flirtacious and being indifferent)
 

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Obsidian said:
Well, you're dead wrong about Saddam, but being suave definitely involves maintaining your own opinions. Close-mindedness isn't required, but you definitely don't start agreeing with garbage just to make people like you. Doing that doesn't work well anyway.

I think being sexual yet also dominant/controlling is probably the way to go.

Learning to use push-pull wouldn't hurt either. (oscillating balance between being flirtacious and being indifferent)
But what does it have to do with being easy? ALL GUYS are easy. All guys want to f*ck hot chicks regarding of who likes what color and opinions.

I don't understand how me having my opinions and being strong in them has anything to do with me being HARD when it comes to sex. Like, I don't care what she likes or doesn't. I like her body and her face - I want sex. Thats how it works for me...call me shallow, but if both of us like cats it still doesn't turn me on!

I need to know what it really means to be HARD to get...I need to understand what it means NOT to be easy!

Everyone wants sex with good looking people and therefore everyone is easy!
 

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How?

You take charge, you deny, you don't reveal much, you show up late or leave early, you do things with other people, you maintain low availability, you don't try to impress her...

I suggest you re-read part of the DJ Bible, or even look up Doc Love and his notion of "challenge."

"Easy" for a guy has nothing to do with how quickly you fvck. It's about (mainly emotional) availability.
 

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whistler said:
How?

You take charge, you deny, you don't reveal much, you show up late or leave early, you do things with other people, you maintain low availability, you don't try to impress her...

I suggest you re-read part of the DJ Bible, or even look up Doc Love and his notion of "challenge."
Well, I do that naturally without Dj Bible, but in the end girls say "He is unapproachable" and "He is hard to connect with" because I am strong in who I am. ...

Is there a girl who doesn't NEED to connect with me because we like the same thing? Is there a girl who could care less about what I like to do and just wants to flirt and have sex with me? A non-slutty one?


Example. HB10, completely different opinions about everything. I will want her. I will flirt and do push and pull and etc, but I will try to kiss her and do do her on the first day.



And nobody answered me...isn't initiating sexual contact EARLY (like 1st date) means you are EASY?
 

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Babnik said:
Well, I do that naturally without Dj Bible, but in the end girls say "He is unapproachable" and "He is hard to connect with" because I am strong in who I am. ...
Then talk more, with emotion. Just don't talk about yourself.

Is there a girl who doesn't NEED to connect with me because we like the same thing? Is there a girl who could care less about what I like to do and just wants to flirt and have sex with me? A non-slutty one?
No. Well, except for, maybe, college girls between 19 and 21. :)

Example. HB10, completely different opinions about everything. I will want her. I will flirt and do push and pull and etc, but I will try to kiss her and do do her on the first day.
That's fine... (?)

And nobody answered me...isn't initiating sexual contact EARLY (like 1st date) means you are EASY?
We'd call that direct or maybe even aggressive. Again, "easy" doesn't apply to men in a sexual way. Easy refers to giving in. Guys aren't typically resisting sex, so it makes little sense to call them easy. In a sense, ALL guys are ALWAYS easy, so it's a meaningless label and an empty concept for guys.
 

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whistler said:
Then talk more, with emotion. Just don't talk about yourself.


No. Well, except for, maybe, college girls between 19 and 21. :)


That's fine... (?)


We'd call that direct or maybe even aggressive. Again, "easy" doesn't apply to men in a sexual way. Easy refers to giving in. Guys aren't typically resisting sex, so it makes little sense to call them easy. In a sense, ALL guys are ALWAYS easy, so it's a meaningless label and an empty concept for guys.

Regarding HB10 comment. What I am saying is that guys do not need to give a crap about what a girl likes or wants or what her opinions are and that makes a girl think that you are HARD to get! So, you kill 2 birds with one shot! Its like...super easy.
 

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Babnik said:
Regarding HB10 comment. What I am saying is that guys do not need to give a crap about what a girl likes or wants or what her opinions are and that makes a girl think that you are HARD to get! So, you kill 2 birds with one shot! Its like...super easy.
Sounds good
 

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