What do you want from SS?

[logicallefty]

Just curious what the interest of the community is. While we have had our infestation of trolls as of late, I also see a lot of new people joining who are making some really good contributions. I'm just curious what people want to see here these days. You can pick more than one.

 

[blind_one]

I chose Less bickering and/or personal attacks and/or useless posts and OTHER - will write in to thread

While I appreciate all sorts of advice, the quality of information is key. Feedback is appreciated in all areas + new ideas to ponder so that we are able to branch out and evolve in our methods.

 

[SmooveMooves]

I just want a community of guys with a like-minded thought process. The Manosphere is slowly growing but there's still an overload of betas. It's good to have a group of the unplugged you can defer too.

I also enjoy the element of Self-Improvement we have here. Despite straying from this belief a bit recently. I think that that is what makes SS greater than some of the other Mano communities.

 

[PipeDope]

Funny how the community considers LTRs to be for chumps but that is the most voted topic on your list.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

As previously explained, though the fundamental mindset is exactly the same, the site would really benefit from having sub-fora regarding:

-LTRs
-Attracting women (for guys who only want to, or indeed can't, get laid)

Though the messages regarding drive, purpose, improvement and mindset are obviously universally applicable, the logistics and subsequent advice for achieving the above objective can be highly variable; hence why there is so much disagreement among members - one advisor is coming from a stand point of wanting an LTR, where the other just wants to f*ck.

It can be really confusing for rank amateurs.

This should be seriously taken in to consideration, not to replace, but to compliment (while clean up) the main forum.

 

[zekko]

Funny how the community considers LTRs to be for chumps but that is the most voted topic on your list.

Great point. And whether you consider this a PUA site or not, there are certainly posters here who consider LTRs for chumps.

But for me, when I was in my 20s, that was my sticking point. I could get laid all day long, that was never a problem, that was easy. But what I wanted was the LTR, and I couldn't keep a relationship going for more than six months (outside of dating my girlfriend in high school for three years). I think the problem was my value was too low, and once I raised it sufficiently through self improvement, I stopped having problems hanging on to the girls, now the girls wanted to hang on to me.

Of course, I've been called a beta faggot here for even wanting to keep a woman, even though this was 30 years ago.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I don't understand the point of Less bickering and/or personal attacks and/or useless posts. I mean who the heck wants more bickering, useless posts, and personal attacks?

 

[logicallefty]

I don't understand the point of Less bickering and/or personal attacks and/or useless posts. I mean who the heck wants more bickering, useless posts, and personal attacks?

There are some specific members on here that a reasonably thinking person of clear and sound mind might conclude that these members would have wanted more of this, not less, based on the totality of the content of their past posts.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

There are some specific members on here that a reasonably thinking person of clear and sound mind might conclude that these members would have wanted more of this, not less, based on the totality of the content of their past posts.

Aaahh, I see. But that basically means people are spending too much time on here.

Anyway, carry on .

 

[Mr Wright]

I ticked 'Other' because what I want is something between a LTR and just getting laid.

From a pretty young age I worked out that I was greedy and want to bang all the girls...so I don't want to limit myself by getting into a LTR even though I do enjoy certain parts of them. Like most guys I enjoy female affection, it's nice having chicks cook for you and sometimes just have a chick to do shoot the shït with. So without trying to sound like I'm reinventing the wheel, I like spinning plates but with no intention of getting into an exclusive relationship, I'd rather walk away because I can 100% not exclusivity, I would end up cheating at some point because I do get bored of girls rather quickly.

There aren't many guys on here who I would say are truly 'spinning plates', and in control of the situation and not just treading water until everything comes crashing over them and they come back like "what happened"?

The guys who are effectively juggling multiple medium term relationships, need to write more reports and document how they deal with certain issues, especially if they want to avoid exclusivity. I think it's a useful tool even for guys who want a LTR because if you just settle for the first girl who jumps into bed with you and treats you nicely, judging by the stories I've seen on here you will inevitably get stung. So I'm talking about points like what's the general longevity of a non-exclusive relationship with someone? At what point do you make it clear that you enjoy the physical nature of the relationship and enjoy spending time with them but they don't get exclusive rights to you and you're not just playing hard to get? How do you combat jealousy? Because from what I see, when girls know you're sleeping with other girls yeah, it makes them like you more but it also sends them crazy. A girl who is full of emotions towards a guy but has no control over the situation is a ticking timebomb.

So yeah, guys give a lot of good newbie advice but when it comes to more advanced issues the quality seems to be lacking...or maybe I just don't ask enough questions.

 

[Tenacity]

OTHER - will write in to thread
^^^

I'm here for networking mainly. I'm here to network with guys who are "like me" in a lot of ways, which are guys that:

- Are Red Pill or at least coming out of the Blue Pill

- Striving to be or already in some levels, the "Total Guy" which is:

* Finances in order
* Credit in order
* Insurance in order
* Works out
* Good socially
* Spinning plates or can spin them

I learn MORE from guys who are going through the shyt rather than guys who copy/paste shyt from other posters. For example, while I debate with Guru over things, I learn a shyt load about stocks from Guru. I absolutely HATE stocks, but that guy knows about Stocks. I learn a lot from Espi about fitness.

What I don't understand is why is everybody hiding on this site? Why can't we come together, meet up, network, link up, etc.? Maybe help each other with jobs, sales leads, introducing them to women in their local area, etc.

I mean come on, is this going to be the end all, be all of our engagement? Imagine how much more POWERFUL our community could be if we link up, network, and work together in real life?

 

[skinnyguy]

Getting one night stands gets old. Let's say you're sarging for months and then one night you get one. Well the next day you're out on the street looking for more pvssy and probably even less satisfied than you were before.

Tenacity has good points

 

[Octogonal]

Which "community" ? This isn't a PUA site, I believe it to be a "self-improvement" site.

^ Someone doesn't like the poll results.

 

[logicallefty]

Aaahh, I see. But that basically means people are spending too much time on here.

Anyway, carry on .

:yes: that and they are not secure enough in themselves to be able to discuss issues in the language of Factlish, but rather they must speak Emotrollian.

 

[Maximus Rex]

More Reports of Infield Experience

Field Reports and for thelonewolflegend to be banned. Either dude is troll or the game just isn't or will it ever be in him. If you're on this site for over a year and you're still asking the same rudimentary dumb ass questions in some garbled syntax that's supposed to be the English language, then it's obvious that this sh*t wasn't meant for you.

 

[zekko]

- Striving to be or already in some levels, the "Total Guy" which is:

* Finances in order
* Credit in order
* Insurance in order
* Works out
* Good socially
* Spinning plates or can spin them

Yeah, there should have been some sort of option in the poll about self improvement. The self improvement aspects of this site have always been the best parts of it, IMO. Trying to become some sort of renaissance man or whatnot.

As for linking up/networking in real life, I can see the advantages in that, but I know many people value their privacy and anonymity.

But for me, when I was in my 20s, that was my sticking point. I could get laid all day long, that was never a problem, that was easy. But what I wanted was the LTR, and I couldn't keep a relationship going for more than six months (outside of dating my girlfriend in high school for three years). I think the problem was my value was too low, and once I raised it sufficiently through self improvement, I stopped having problems hanging on to the girls, now the girls wanted to hang on to me.

I know it's bad form to reply to my own post, but let me just add this. If you are just casually dating girls (or spinning plates or whatever), really getting hot women to go out with you is not that difficult. As long as you are not some sort of creeper, and are fun, or have something fun to do, girls who are single will likely go out with any dude who is decent. But to keep a girl, you have to have value.

Lol, that's a bit opposite of what PUAs tell you, that the guy she fvcks in the alley is the guy with value, and the guy she marries is actually some weak, worthless, hollow shell of a sissified male that exists only for her to manipulate and whom she secretly despises.

 

[logicallefty]

Which "community" ? This isn't a PUA site, I believe it to be a "self-improvement" site.

Same here, "Self Improvement Site" or just "Men's Issues Site". PUA technique is just one of the many things we discuss.

I appreciate all of the responses. I just did this for my own curiosity.

 

[Tenacity]

I say imagine how much more quality this site would be if people were not allowed to hide? Not saying you have to put your address up here, but just something that links to who you are in "real life".

It's kind of hard for a guy to troll on the internet, which I define mainly as saying outlandish things that he wouldn't say out from under a hidden profile, if the guy was required to SHOW who he actually was in real life.

If Sosuave is a community within the Manosphere to promote "Self Improvement," then it should be a much more close-knit community where we actually know each other, throw each other new job opportunities when we know of it, throw each other job referrals, etc. I'm saying we ought to be an actual NETWORK.

Imagine how powerful that can become? We all won't agree with each other, you will have your Blue Pill guys and Red Pill guys, your MRA guys and MGTOW guys, but we are still ALL in this shyt together in terms of battling a feminist/gynocentric society as well as having to DEAL with women in dating, relationships, social, legal and professional circles.

Just about all over the Manosphere from Discussion Forums to even Youtube, everybody is hidden. If the Manosphere Network is supposedly the Father and Big Brother we never had, then why the hell aren't we a more close-knit group than we are?

IN other words, guys, if we don't look out for EACH OTHER....then who will?

 

[:-)]

I say imagine how much more quality this site would be if people were not allowed to hide? Not saying you have to put your address up here, but just something that links to who you are in "real life".

It's kind of hard for a guy to troll on the internet, which I define mainly as saying outlandish things that he wouldn't say out from under a hidden profile, if the guy was required to SHOW who he actually was in real life.

If Sosuave is a community within the Manosphere to promote "Self Improvement," then it should be a much more close-knit community where we actually know each other, throw each other new job opportunities when we know of it, throw each other job referrals, etc. I'm saying we ought to be an actual NETWORK.

Imagine how powerful that can become? We all won't agree with each other, you will have your Blue Pill guys and Red Pill guys, your MRA guys and MGTOW guys, but we are still ALL in this shyt together in terms of battling a feminist/gynocentric society as well as having to DEAL with women in dating, relationships, social, legal and professional circles.

Just about all over the Manosphere from Discussion Forums to even Youtube, everybody is hidden. If the Manosphere Network is supposedly the Father and Big Brother we never had, then why the hell aren't we a more close-knit group than we are?

IN other words, guys, if we don't look out for EACH OTHER....then who will?

Good idea. Let's start with yourself, shall we?

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[mangotot]

Over 100 people voted, this must be quite a popular forum.