Originally posted by 00Kevin
your solution sounds like something a girl would do. A man doesn't list off complaints about women he has dated.
You are not complaining. You are answering a question by stating the things you won't put up with. If that helps you screen out women, then so be it. Believe me, if she has some legitimate interest, it won't hurt your cause to communicate you are selective.
I've tried exactly what you said and what ends up happening is she thinks you are too judgemental. The last thing a girl wants is a guy that judges her.
Who cares what she thinks. She sure won't care if you think she's too judgemental, specially if she knows you are dying for her approval. Are you afraid of scaring her off? Would you rather put up with BS once you're involved with her, or make it clear that you have standards? If she really likes you she'll agree with you and even tell you stuff like "I know, I don't like people like that either" or "I'm not like that." or "I have a friend who's like that." Who has control now?
Most women feel guilty about things they have done in the past and when you start to complain about other women you are going to make them think you would do that to them.
Again, you are not complaining, you are just stating your preferences. That should be better reason for them to not act like other women. You are not there to put up with their second class behaviour. If you let som things slide in the beginning, because of fear of ofending her, you will pay for it later.
like I said just tell her you want a woman that showes high interest and likes to flirt. You can go wrong with that at all. And you don't have to put on some false ****y funny act to do it.
unless you are naturally a ****y funny kind of person don't try it. You will just end up looking like a fool when you open your mouth. It takes natural instinct to pull off a ****y funny line.
We both know that if she has some interest, and you're are not totally inept with women, you can say almost anything, and it won't hurt your chances. You are not there to cater to her and tell her what she wants to hear, because most other men already do that, in hopes to bed her. Unless she doesn't like you, that won't turn her off. And unless she has very high interest, telling her to show IL and flirt won't work. Kinda like you can say anything if she really likes you, and it doesn't matter what you say if she has no interest.
By telling her you like them to show high interest and flirt, you are giving them amunition to start their game playing, which they are much better at than most men. Guess what? She will stop 'showing high interest' and start playing games. They like the game, the challenge. Your one line will not prevent their natural instinct to want a challenge. Yes, I know it doesn't sound logical, but women are not logical.
Remember, what seems to be isn't when it comes to communicating with women. We can't live in the shoulds, can't we?
Believe me, she won't feel 'guilty' about flaking on you, using you,,etc. She didn't feel guilty when she pulled out her BS to avoid going out with the guy she wanted to get rid of. She'll feel guilty when the next guy she really like busts her on it; and she'll still be interested in him, and he now has the power.
I do agree with you, you must be pretty good at being ****y/funny to pull it off. Whatever you guys do, DO NOT START TRYIN' TO SAY ALL THE RIGHT THINGS TO EARN HER APPROVAL. How you say it is the key. You can be nice, calm, and sincere when you state some of the behaviours/things that you want a woman not to do. No whinny tone, or complaining bad attitude. Just selective.