What do you guys think of Andrew Tate?

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I cannot believe the fanboys of this guy online.

I do believe some of what he says has some merit, but, overall I think hes pretty cheesy and the wrong spokesperson for it.

What is the general consensus of this dude on here?
 

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There is no consensus, he's divisive even in manospheres and RP communities. Before I say anything, I think most people's view of him is based on the social media shorts/reels/etc that took off in 2021-2022, most of which was deliberately controversial in order to attract attention. Lot's of people also seem to label him as a mere "influencer" as if his kickboxing and entrepreneurship is irrelevant.

Personally I think he is sharp and very much in touch with reality, moreso than almost any other public figure. He has a lot of insightful things to share, though I don't agree with him on everything.

Whether or not he's a bad guy, I don't know. I doubt he did any sex trafficking, but it does sound like he was basically an ice cold pimp with his cam***** empire he built, and he may have done some morally questionable things or flat out despicable things, but I don't know. Either way, it's all moot. Attacking someone's character instead of what they say is intellectually lazy.

Anyway, I always recommend people watch this podcast to get the truest sense of what kind of a person Tate is.

 
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He´s not half bad. Even Ben Shapiro admits Adrew Tate is right more than 90% of the time.
 

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He doesn’t bother me. I think it’s funny how many people get triggered over a man with an opinion lol
 

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He was on podcasts way before. 2017 he was on Rollo, then on Rich Cooper and 2021 he was on Fresh and Fit for the first time. These "OG" Podcasts with him are pretty good. Better than the **** he's dropping now.
 

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He is without a doubt quick witted, but that in itself doesn't mean he's generally good. Sure, with a lot of what he says he appears unfiltered, like he's genuine and doesn't just say it for the clout. On the other hand I get the feeling he's just intelligent and says what he says knowing exactly what responses he'll get and knowing how it will play out.

I don't trust the guy at all, while there are some statements I can relate to, there's also a bunch of sh!t I disagree with that's so far out there. I would not at all be surprised if he's actually a sex trafficker who got too bold for his own good on the internet, I was not surprised when the allegations came out.

It's hard to describe, but there's bad vibes all over this guy. He feels fake and like it's more of a performance purely for his own gain than genuinely giving a single fvck about the guys he speak to.

There's probably not going to be a consensus for a while longer, but eventually most guys are going to either forget about him or dislike him. Andrew Tate doesn't have what it takes to stay relevant for much longer, he's not real enough.
 

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I have only seen small snippets of him, but from what I have seen he is very putting in his message. He comes off as brash and angry. A man can say the exact same thing by being calm and cool, without the anger.

Speaking of Ben Shapiro, that guy talks so freaking fast it's not even funny. Do these podcasters even know how to talk?
 

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Andrew Tate does come over as brash and angry, well put.

Having said that, I like the way he challenges the pervasive liberal consensus which increasingly denigrates traditional masculinity. I think Tate's right in that respect.
 

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I hadn't heard of him before he was arrested. So I don't know his body of work.

I did read an article about his arrest and some of his texts/emails discussing how he was getting women emotionally hooked on him so they'd do anything for him - read: sex work online. Obviously this is just evidence and he will have his day in court.

Now I don't know what is technically trafficking but sounds like he was heading for cult leader status. Kind of messed up when a guy can't just use his alleged attractiveness for good. I always leave 'em better than I found 'em.

On a more general level I just think it's weird when "manosphere" dudes start believing their news clippings. There are a ton of losers out there ready to go to war for guys they haven't met. It just becomes church in another form. Not my scene.
 

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I think everyone on sosauve could be Andrew . Never forget that the things we talk about every day are still HIGHLY controversial. If you ever mention these topics around women and /or bluepilled men, they will resent you.

I know some men who would blow up like Tate did. I know players who could charge bluepilled men 1000 euro a session because they ARE successful with women. Some are also successful in business.

Imo Tate is just a symptom, and not the cause. I dont get the fuzz ,especially overhere. He says what we say,yet he gets attacked by even the DJ,S. Doesn't make any sense.
 

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Never forget that the things we talk about every day are still HIGHLY controversial. If you ever mention these topics around women and /or bluepilled men, they will resent you.
This is true. It is always best to keep red pill or black pill views to yourself.

Some of your blue pilled male friends might be able to handle some portion of your red or black pill views to yourself.

I have had married, blue pill male friends acknowledge that my lifestyle is awesome. I also believe that the married, blue pill guys in my social circle that haven't told me that I have an awesome lifestyle have privately thought that my lifestyle is awesome.
 

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Never heard of the dude, but the past few months his name has been buzzing.

I saw a short clip of him recently, and he strikes me as no more than the modern-day run of the mill red pill advocate.

Too many of those kind of guys to keep up with.
 

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Never heard of the dude, but the past few months his name has been buzzing.

I saw a short clip of him recently, and he strikes me as no more than the modern-day run of the mill red pill advocate.

Too many of those kind of guys to keep up with.
He was the evolution of Roosh from the mid-2010s when Roosh was running Return of Kings, his own blog, writing some books, and had a YouTube channel.
 

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Angry young man making other young men angry.
 

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If men were 50% of what tate is in this world we could probably have a better chance of replicating men with massive determination and focus for success.

Nothing against tate most of the stuff he says is true and on point.
 

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He´s not half bad. Even Ben Shapiro admits Adrew Tate is right more than 90% of the time.
Ben Shapiro is only right maybe 40% of the time. Watching that guy debate is like watching someone get a root canal. Serious 50% of the 'facts' he quotes is complete bvllsh1t. Just fact check his statements... it's a bunch of lies. He talks fast and vomits out nonsense backing up his positions. He might have solid points, but the way he defends them is just idiotic.... His latest rants against Barbie the movie is just freaking stupid as sh1t. Ben.... it's a fvcking fictional fantasy movie... he's acting like a triggered female snowflake.
 
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