What do you guys think about PUA's?

[Blue Phoenix]

Tyler's point was the girl would pick up at 4 am because he's higher value, not that calling at 4 am demonstrates higher value

Yeah, that´s more or less the same thing. To me this has nothing to do with higher value, but that´s just me.

 

[ready123]

Yeah, that´s more or less the same thing. To me this has nothing to do with higher value, but that´s just me.

another way to look at it is as supplication but with the genders reversed. and I think his definition of value, is perceived value, meaning what a girl thinks you're worth. not what type of man you really are

and it's not really a concept as it is a general observation. people react to those who they feel are higher value. it's the same reason a gorgeous girl can walk into a room and a bunch of guys who are talking pause the conversation to check her out

I wouldn't call a chick at an inconvenient time either, but if I did, and the girl picked up and was more than willing to talk to me, that says a lot about her interest in me

 

[DJVladdy]

From what I've seen - the PUA I have most respect for is Matador. Other's like Mystery, TD.. are still geeks trying to cover it up with outrageous clothes and memorized routines.

 

[horaholic]

From what I've seen - the PUA I have most respect for is Matador. Other's like Mystery, TD.. are still geeks trying to cover it up with outrageous clothes and memorized routines.

TD doesnt do that at all. He used too, but completely redefined his game, and started over using no lines or routines. I dont think he peacocks either. His game is 100% core confidence, and high self value. He teaches against using canned openers. He is totally impromptu. When he talks about calling a girl at 4 am, he is only saying that he wouldnt be afraid to if he wanted too. Its all about ultimate inner game, and having the balls to do crazy shyt everyone would be afraid to do. He'll use funny facial expressions for openers. He's the opposite of MM now, even though he used to do MM style himself. I'll have to look into Matador. I've never heard of him.

EDIT: I checked out Matador. He's one of Mystery's guys. He has the same canned routine game, nothing against them, cuz it obviously works, but its not for me. Im completely sold on TD, and RSD.

 

[EFFORT]

wow its incredible how out of date a lot of you are

 

[TheGameMaster]

I hang around with quite a few PUA's and they are all very decent guys. So naturally I like them. I consider myself to be one in a sense. Being a PUA doesnt mean you are just out to bang as many girls as possible. To me being a PUA is about gaining enough experience with women that you aquire an ability with them to have choice. I want to be able to attract a decent wife when I am older, and to do so, im going to have to work for it. Might have gone abit off topic there, but asking the question what do you think about PUA's implies that they have a bad name