What do you experienced guys think of this mans game?

[BPH]

Some guys want the girlfriend experience, maybe he likes the wife experience.

I'd say he's successful.

I would not say he has game.

 

[plumber]

It feels like you want validation that this is game.

na, just a topic. I really don't care.... I recall your one of the posters that is looking to perhaps teach game. does that mean you would tell students to not do what this guy has done?

he might not have an ED problem like you suggest. that's usually a blood flow issue(if the pill helps) from lifestyle choices. this guy is pretty active and looks fit.

im not defending him, just looking at what are we trying to accomplish. we see someone that appears to have what many say they want and then instead of looking to follow that path, we tell that its wrong because.....

who cares what is in her mind, if she talks and walks and does all the right things; always.




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[SW15]

As soon as people hear a guy is successful and has money, they start looking down their nose at him as being beta.

Many of those men lead with money and that's not an ideal position. Leading with money is often a beta mindset.

I'd say he's successful.

I would not say he has game.

Having a man we think of as beta, doing alpha things. Confusing. Leading other men, winning..., attracting women. These are alpha trait. So do we see this as a beta pretending to be an alpha or is it something else ?

In many white collar businesses, middle and upper managers are often beta males. Middle managers are classic betas. Depending on the company, these are often well compensated men. These men are often supervising other employees. However, these men lack alpha male traits in a lot of cases. Their ideology towards women and dating is often influenced by common blue pill ideas.

James Clark has been in upper management in the companies that he co-founded. Upper management men can also be beta males in terms of their views on women and sexual relationships.

Achievements in the business world doesn't mean someone is alpha in mating.

Media executive Rupert Murdoch starting dating former model Jerry Hall when she was in her late 50s. Mick Jagger was with Jerry Hall from her early 20s to early 40s.

You don't think he's clueless? This is his 4th marriage.

Multiple marriages is something that older men tend to do. Older men were raised in an era where marriage was more common. The younger generations (Gen Y/Millennials and Gen Z) have not valued marriage in the same way.

A lot of men will stop getting married after 1-2 failed marriages.

The Millennial generation is reaching middle age. I think when the 1980s born Millennials reach their 50s-60s, having 3rd and 4th marriages will be less common.

You can create a life that attracts women, but let's not pretend it's the same thing as being good with women.

A quick search online shows he met this woman while going through the divorce with ex-wife Nancy Rutter. At the time she was 27 and this guy was 63...

Do you REALLY think a young swimsuit model is going to be attracted to a guy who likely needs a drug ****tail to even get it up?

A 27 year old swimsuit model can have a romantic/sexual relationship with any nearly any man. Many 20 something models will choose exciting guys near their own age like actors, athletes, musicians, and other physically fit guys. James Clark offered money and status as a 60 something man with height.

When a woman goes for a man who is decades older, money is the primary reason.

 

[BPH]

na, just a topic. I really don't care.... I recall your one of the posters that is looking to perhaps teach game. does that mean you would tell students to not do what this guy has done?

My recommendation to most guys who might ask me how to learn game would not include spending their whole lives getting a pHD, hoping to luck out by founding a successful tech company, then marrying 4 times over and ending up with a wife who's waiting for them to die, no.

This is like saying Lewis Capaldi must have game because women love him - as if it's for any reason other than the fact he's a successful musician.

 

[zekko]

Achievements in the business world doesn't mean someone is alpha in mating.

Most guys are beta, period. I don't think having money makes it any more likely that you are beta. Some rich men have mistresses, their power makes them feel entitled - cheating is something the manosphere seems to admire. I think the whole alpha/beta thing is dumb, anyway. Honestly, if I could have a billion dollars or a harem, I'm taking the money ten out of ten times. I mean, if you bang 500 women, does that really make you more of a man?

 

[plumber]

Most guys are beta, period. I don't think having money makes it any more likely that you are beta. Some rich men have mistresses, their power makes them feel entitled - cheating is something the manosphere seems to admire. I think the whole alpha/beta thing is dumb, anyway. Honestly, if I could have a billion dollars or a harem, I'm taking the money ten out of ten times. I mean, if you bang 500 women, does that really make you more of a man?

that's it; the billion dollar question.

one geek theory is that sex is the ultimate driver of men. so did the guy that gets a billion (s) do it because of sexual struggle. If yes, then its a valid question if the 500 women is better.

 

[plumber]

My recommendation to most guys who might ask me how to learn game would not include spending their whole lives getting a pHD, hoping to luck out by founding a successful tech company, then marrying 4 times over and ending up with a wife who's waiting for them to die, no.

This is like saying Lewis Capaldi must have game because women love him - as if it's for any reason other than the fact he's a successful musician.

but we tell men to focus on something else other than women. this guy did just that.... and it works. instead of the phd, he could have been spending the same time spinning plates and making SS postings.

is it not alpha to be at the top and leading in a category ?

 

[plumber]

When a woman goes for a man who is decades older, money is the primary reason.

Is this 100% rule ? can you think of any exceptions ? If not does a rule exist that working to get money is beta ?

Decade is 10 years. decades is 20, 30,40+ years.
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I think women are attracted to power. Usually men feel challenged by power. Men and women react differently to power. Its not the money, its the power.

Do you agree that "money is stored power"?

Do women attracted to a nice suit or a tight gym shirt ? maybe both.... rock stars have both sometimes.

 

[zekko]

but we tell men to focus on something else other than women. this guy did just that.... and it works. instead of the phd, he could have been spending the same time spinning plates and making SS postings.

is it not alpha to be at the top and leading in a category ?

Only in the manosphere are you seen as a loser if you have successfully built a career and a large amount of wealth for yourself.

 

[BPH]

but we tell men to focus on something else other than women. this guy did just that.... and it works. instead of the phd, he could have been spending the same time spinning plates and making SS postings.

is it not alpha to be at the top and leading in a category ?

Sure dude.

He's the most alpha man to ever live. Guy has so much game people call him the Rizzlord.

This is becoming a circular conversation so I'll leave you to it.