What do you do when you know she’s a hoe?

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Use her for recreational purposes and know she has a shelf life. In others words don't let yourself get sucked down the hole, literally.
 

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If she is over 21 I always assume she's dealing with other guys whether dating or just talking
I do not take online dating women seriously, in my experience, most women on apps are boring, socially awkward, unhinged, shady past, former party girls, ran through, delusional, entitled, etc

Even pretty women on apps can be very judgemental, uncouth, mean-spirited just nasty women. For me to take one seriously she has to make a genuine effort and meet my standards.
The hardest part of swallowing the red pill back in the day (before online dating) was coming to terms with how many options women had.

They have polls and graphs that show you now lol

You're basically fvcked as a man. The only thing that can save you is optimism

Confidemce in yourself and the world in general.

And learn that women are like children in their minds. You have to expect them to fvck up. And punish them gently, like children....

..unless they cross a line. Then you deal swiftly and remove them from your life. Never give them a second chance
 

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I don't get it...

Some of you guys want to date and f*** all these women, but your dealbreaker is when SHE sees other people too. Attractive women have so many options, yet some of you seem to be offended by the fact that you're not some special snowflake she's saving herself for.
not sure thats the issue

the issue is you can’t take her seriously when she’s got 30 other men on the scene

if you can’t take her seriously you can’t really do much other than play the stupid games or forget about her
 

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not sure thats the issue

the issue is you can’t take her seriously when she’s got 30 other men on the scene

if you can’t take her seriously you can’t really do much other than play the stupid games or forget about her
So don't take her serioulsy

and also, have 30 other chicks on the scene yourself.
 
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OP, you're jumping to conclusions that she's a hoe. You expect a cute young girl you found online (and who told you she's new in town and looking to meet new people) to only go on a first date with you? :rolleyes:
The thing is if something like that happens and I know a woman dates other guys even when we’re not exclusive, I won’t ever take her seriously.
 

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Tag along question: would you guys consider a girl who wants to go raw on first hook up to be a hoe?

And if so, would you guys think twice?
 

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For me it’s about respect. If my friend said he can’t make it, deletes the message, then says “are we still on?” I will see that as disrespect.

So many of you gen z guys tolerate this behavior and normalize it, which is why women keep doing it to yall.

Relationships is not just men and women. It’s friends, family, romance, etc. A disrespect in a relationship dynamic is a disrespect. STOP normalizing sub human behavior. Are yall that desperate for a piece of a$$?

Your internal compass TELLS you it’s disrespect, yet you still try to rationalize it away because it’s “modern day women.” LOL. That’s pathetic.
 

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It depends on how she behaved during the night. If her actions were within the bounds of normal behavior, I wouldn't consider her a hoe.
I've met girls who behave quite normally during the date but during the first hook up, they suggest going raw or pull out. I always thought it was a red flag but not sure if I'm being too uptight about it.
 

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I've met girls who behave quite normally during the date but during the first hook up, they suggest going raw or pull out. I always thought it was a red flag but not sure if I'm being too uptight about it.
That’s a red flag to me. You don’t want any warts on your penis.
 

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I don't get it...

Some of you guys want to date and f*** all these women, but your dealbreaker is when SHE sees other people too. Attractive women have so many options, yet some of you seem to be offended by the fact that you're not some special snowflake she's saving herself for.
I’ve stated my surprise at this too. Most here simply want to screw. Talk of red flags, mental illness and personality disorders (eg, BPD), body count, daddy issues, etc. I don’t see why any of this matters in pumping and dumping. Like, do they want a disciplined, foresighted, marriage-minded, family-oriented child-wanting woman for that? Sounds incongruent to me.

Even one guy with an “LTR” complained about his live-in girlfriend who left him alone to do his work at night because she liked watching TV while he did so, indicating that he wanted her to Jestermaxx for him!

Then some other guy got annoyed that some woman he was doing bf-and-gf stuff together got annoyed that she wanted to get more serious.

It seems some guys don’t know what they want.
 
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Even one guy with an “LTR” complained about his live-in girlfriend who left him alone to do his work at night because she liked watching TV while he did so, indicating that he wanted her to Jestermaxx for him!
Dude...I would love a girl who did this...I was in a LDR with a girl who would FaceTime me every night for several hours and not talk about anything...she just wanted to see me and talk to me.

Which was sweet, but man...after a long day at work and a hard workout at the gym I just want to have a nice meal and play some video games.
 

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I was in a LDR with a girl who would FaceTime me every night for several hours and not talk about anything...she just wanted to see me and talk to me.
Which was sweet, but man...after a long day at work and a hard workout at the gym I just want to have a nice meal and play some video games.
Anything you establish at the beginning of the relationship that a woman likes (like talking for hours) can become a 'tradition'.
"But you always bring me flowers on Tuesdays." If you spent a lot of time on video calls that first month, you create a pattern that comforts her. "I missed your 'goodnight' message yesterday. What's going on?"

Women try to create these 'traditions' to get you more deeply invested in the relationship.
 

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Anything you establish at the beginning of the relationship that a woman likes (like talking for hours) can become a 'tradition'.
"But you always bring me flowers on Tuesdays." If you spent a lot of time on video calls that first month, you create a pattern that comforts her. "I missed your 'goodnight' message yesterday. What's going on?"

Women try to create these 'traditions' to get you more deeply invested in the relationship.
I agree with this. A common theme with all my exes is that they LOVED communicating via Snapchat because they enjoyed watching the streak increase, showing how many consecutive days we'd been talking.

In the case of the woman I mentioned, I made that sacrifice because we were several hours from one another and would only be able to see each other 1, maybe 2 weekends out of the month. But I did hate it...not her, but IT.

She was an absolute gem of a woman; very sweet, very generous, very traditional. The only reason that didn't work out was because I wasn't ready to commit at the same level as she was while so young, and didn't want to make her wait for when/if that happened for me. She's married and we're still on good terms, my mom even talks to her once in a while. She was a good girl, she deserves it.

All this is to say that some women create traditions because they care, and not to manipulate or start fights when you miss a beat.
 

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All this is to say that some women create traditions because they care, and not to manipulate or start fights when you miss a beat.
Absolutely, but as a man you have to be aware that women keep track of the relationship in a different way. If you're smart and you want to really impress her, keep track of the first time you did something (first kiss, first walk on a pier, first sunset you watch together) so you can tell her later, 'our first kiss was a year ago' and she will feel closer to you than ever. For women, keeping track (and holding on to traditions) gives them a sense of security in a world of chaos.
 

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Why would you make a wild assumption and go on to believing it?

Why being unsure for a date should mean that she has several other guys lined up?

This sounds a bit delusional to me.
 
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