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Why do you say this?You should not be texting back and forth with an LTR
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Why do you say this?You should not be texting back and forth with an LTR
I did escalate it to sexual context. My last message was some flirty bull****. Anyway, I am giving a last shot and have texted her again asking whether she wants to meet up. I might be doing a mistake here but if so I will take it as learning opportunity.She has 25-50 guys messaging her and she didn't see anything of interest in you. Did you escalate the conversation to sexual talk or innuendos at the very least? or did you keep it PG-13? If you did the latter, she probably got bored with you not escalating.
If a chick does this to me online, I don't try to reestablish contact. I don't have time for low interest women or for being kept as an orbiter. Next.
As for this, you really have to make a distinction between an LTR and a plate. A plate is just a friend with benefits and she's not tied to you, if she's not responding to you, you do the same as you would with some OLD ho, you ignore her until she contacts you and you find other plates to replace her.
You should not be texting back and forth with an LTR, and if the relationship is good, you should not be surprised when she doesn't answer you if you're going to see her later. She should also apologize for missing your text when she notices.
Yup I agree on the plate to soft next them. And maybe its ego but if they play that stupid long time to respond to the logistic text then I assume it as a flake and make other plans.if she's not responding to you, you do the same as you would with some OLD ho, you ignore her until she contacts you and you find other plates to replace her.
You should not be texting back and forth with an LTR, and if the relationship is good, you should not be surprised when she doesn't answer you if you're going to see her later. She should also apologize for missing your text when she notices.
I actually followed it literally and seems to work well. Granted its with plates. Texting for logistics only. I'll maybe initiate less than 10% of the time just for random ****.Why do you say this?
You covered every one of my doubts regarding this topic. Great advice, thank you for that.I don't believe in hard rules, and what works for me may not work for others, but here is how I see it, based on thought and first-hand experience.
@deBrito
I have tried the cute funny "Heard you flew to Asia and are climbing Everest" or <insert funny thing that is more custom-tailored to what you know about her here>, and while it does work to get the girl to re-engage about 80% of the time for me, it almost never leads to a date. Instead it just leads to more wasted time texting, and more snubs. They like the humor and teasing playfulness because they like attention and they like the feelings it gives them, but it's generally not enough to turn them around enough for them to agree to a date.
If you are worried you need to give her a stronger signal, then focus on interactions with future women - don't miss your opportunity to ask them out during a high-point in the banter. That's when to do it, not when the conversation is cold. It's simple: Banter, dig deep with your questions (below the surface level - don't interview them with many different questions about many different things - ask something general, then drill down to something specific like asking them WHY they do that thing or WHY they like it or HOW it makes them feel, then share something about yourself that relates to it). Once you sense her being warm, you ask for the date. Done. It's that simple.
Having said all this, a guy I respect once said, "You have nothing to lose by pinging value into the void. If nothing comes back, what have you lost? But don't go into it expecting you'll get anything back or you are likely to be let down." One last point, if I do ping a girl some days or weeks later after she didn't reply to me, I won't ask her a question. That too is a request for compliance. Instead, I will throw out something funny (like some of the examples above) or maybe send her a pic of something cool I'm doing with a comment like, "Awesome weather to be on top of this 6,000' mountain today!" But again, while this often gets a response, I can't recall it ever leading to sex. Usually just more flakiness..... more ignored texts later, a date that she flakes on, or a date that goes nowhere. But you can try and see how it works for you.
Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Good point but what if she leaves OP on read after they go on a successful date?I don't believe in hard rules, and what works for me may not work for others, but here is how I see it, based on thought and first-hand experience.
When you are asking a girl out, you are asking for compliance: Her to comply with your request to ask her out. If you walked up to a girl on the street and said, "Hey will you go out for a drink with me?" The answer 99.9% of the time is likely going to be no. Why? Because she doesn't know you and has not had the chance to evaluate you and determine if she is attracted to you or not. Yes she can appreciate your looks but for women, a man's looks are a less important part of the equation than a woman's looks are for a man. She wants to assess your value, ensure you aren't a weirdo, and see how you make her FEEL. She bases her decision on that.
If you are texting a girl and she simply doesn't respond, that's an indication of very low interest. So given that she has communicated this to you non-verbally, why would you then ask her for compliance (by asking her for a date)? She is least likely to say yes at this point, and it will likely further cement her low-value judgement of you based on the fact that you aren't acting socially calibrated. You should be put-off by her snub, not coming back around even harder.
@deBrito
I have tried the cute funny "Heard you flew to Asia and are climbing Everest" or <insert funny thing that is more custom-tailored to what you know about her here>, and while it does work to get the girl to re-engage about 80% of the time for me, it almost never leads to a date. Instead it just leads to more wasted time texting, and more snubs. They like the humor and teasing playfulness because they like attention and they like the feelings it gives them, but it's generally not enough to turn them around enough for them to agree to a date.
If you are worried you need to give her a stronger signal, then focus on interactions with future women - don't miss your opportunity to ask them out during a high-point in the banter. That's when to do it, not when the conversation is cold. It's simple: Banter, dig deep with your questions (below the surface level - don't interview them with many different questions about many different things - ask something general, then drill down to something specific like asking them WHY they do that thing or WHY they like it or HOW it makes them feel, then share something about yourself that relates to it). Once you sense her being warm, you ask for the date. Done. It's that simple.
Having said all this, a guy I respect once said, "You have nothing to lose by pinging value into the void. If nothing comes back, what have you lost? But don't go into it expecting you'll get anything back or you are likely to be let down." One last point, if I do ping a girl some days or weeks later after she didn't reply to me, I won't ask her a question. That too is a request for compliance. Instead, I will throw out something funny (like some of the examples above) or maybe send her a pic of something cool I'm doing with a comment like, "Awesome weather to be on top of this 6,000' mountain today!" But again, while this often gets a response, I can't recall it ever leading to sex. Usually just more flakiness..... more ignored texts later, a date that she flakes on, or a date that goes nowhere. But you can try and see how it works for you.
Ive had that happen a small handful of times. The first point to consider is accepting that it might not have been as successful a date as you think. Maybe her expectations were different from yours. If it was truly successful and she was truly attracted to you, she’s not going to just leave you on read. She MIGHT be playing hard to get but my experience with girls who do that is that they are low quality and will always be controlling and flakey and entitled and play games making things very difficult for you.... just a pain in the ass.Good point but what if she leaves OP on read after they go on a successful date?
If you lack the ability to text properly you should be learning how to do it versus avoiding it out of fear.Yup I agree on the plate to soft next them. And maybe its ego but if they play that stupid long time to respond to the logistic text then I assume it as a flake and make other plans.
I actually followed it literally and seems to work well. Granted its with plates. Texting for logistics only. I'll maybe initiate less than 10% of the time just for random ****.
I guess the understanding for me is a new DJ can kill attraction through texting and its better to have stuff to say in person.
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.
Yep agreed.Switch to telepathy.
Or find another girl.
Whichever is easiest.
Even now, chatting online is unproductive. You should get to the point quickly of meeting up and escalating.Quite simple and common situation nowadays due to lockdown that we have been forced to chat with girls online.
So you have just started chatting with a chick, everything goes well but suddenly she just leaves your last message read and stops texting back. How do you usually behave in such situations?
Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
She should have told the truth that she just got dumped.A couple years ago I texted a very casual FWB on Valentine's Day. Something like "Hey you, happy VD day err I mean V day. Ciao, Dash"
She replied in June, four months later, saying she just saw the message, lol. No reply from me, obviously.
Just move on, man. No use over analyzing and dissecting everything. That implies a scarcity mentality, hardly a DJ quality.
Chick asked for my # the other day and it's radio silence. #nextQuite simple and common situation nowadays due to lockdown that we have been forced to chat with girls online.
So you have just started chatting with a chick, everything goes well but suddenly she just leaves your last message read and stops texting back. How do you usually behave in such situations?
Hey DEEZEDBRAH, could you enlighten me about this?Enjoy the decline. Pillage what you can.
I can't wait for the crash that's coming.
Options FTW.