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What do you consider relationship material these days?

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Obviously there has to be that famous "click"/chemistry first. For me, that usually occurs with the sort of woman Jophil describes. Maybe I'm an old-fashioned type too. (Who's Sarah P., Joph?)

But what I've mostly noticed is that I tend to go along well with women who answer to my Four Conditions:

- Attractive (to me)
- Intelligent (on my level)
- Witty (and can roll with the punches)
- Warm (giving, caring)

Maybe this is because I consider myself to be like this too. I think with these simple traits I have all the bases covered. Such women are usually living their own life, uncomplicated, are genuinely interested in others, don't play games, have a sense of decency and honour even. They think for themselves and are devoid of (extreme) materialism.

Women with baggage under those conditions can be suitable too, since usually they'll be able to handle it or have handled it like one should if they are like this. For example, women from unhealthy families usually aren't Witty in a pleasant sense (nasty and sarcastic instead), or Warm and able to spread that warmth.

I knew a girl once who appeared to be answering those four conditions, however she actually lacked Wit and Warmth when I finally met her. That makes such creatures into a deadly trap if you allow yourself to be fooled by a front. (This is why it's important to hook up with people LIVE first, and not via e-mail/online dating. But that aside. :p). These are women who don't deal with issues, issues deal with them. This is especially true if they lack the Witty and Warm factor, I've noticed, because they lack the self-esteem to assert themselves as such.

Things like good sex are automatic results of these conditions. Good sex for example is given by someone who: Is fairly smart and open to try stuff out (Intelligent), doesn't take themselves too seriously and approaches sex with a good amount of humour and a fun attitude (Witty), and who cares about you and is interested in giving you a good time (Warm).

Things like similar interests are valuable too, but these are secondary plusses in my book. Cooking is a plus for example, but I like cooking myself, so not a necessity. If some one is Intelligent, chances are great they like reading too (which I do), so no doubt we can discuss books and their ideas together. So, the Four Conditions also allow for a lot of secondary plusses, or at least they could. And the more secondary plusses someone has (I should put up a list of that too perhaps :p), the more compatible they are to me and the more I consider them Permanency Material.

I think I've always considered these traits relationship material. It's just that it's so rare, (most women I knew only had two of these Conditions, but maybe I don't meet enough women), that I had the tendency to jump onto them eagerly in the past when I merely thought they had the Four Conditions (and when I was more of a chump :p). Bad idea obviously.
 

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When I was 19, around Cr1msonKing's age, I said almost the same thing in a class at college. Same reaction: the women protested and some guys started to laugh. Back then I wasn't sure whether I was the only crazy in the room or I was in a room full of crazies. The answer I got from others was that it's because I was brought up outside of Australia and have not been taught modern Western values.
 

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Relationship material:

makes me laugh
is at least a seven out of ten in looks - thin, nice smile, great boobs, etc
open-minded
intelligent
creative in the bedroom
 

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This thread got me thinking about abundance v.s scarcity mentalities.

Through work & hobbies, I meet a lot of women. In my experience, it seems that if you just want hot chicks for some fun, there's an abundance of them. However, if you're looking for relationship materials, they are scarce.

Right now I'm not looking for a relationship but in the future, if I search for one, I can't help but think I'll be fishing in the wrong pond.

Thoughts?
 

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I love these threads. It's like What I Want for Christmas...

So let's see, Santa, bring me a girl who will cook ALL my meals (at least during the week), has a classy/pretty/conservative look when we go out, will do everything in the bedroom, let me make all the major decisions, will take care of the accounting and household B.S., is cool enough to take to the shooting range or out on a camping trip, but always has that feminine touch, is not a huge slob, has a good personality, and is not any older than 23.

And Santa, when you bring me that chick, don't forget about the ten million bucks I asked for last year, and feel free to throw in a Tesla Roadster while you're here.... And I know it's not your dept., but I forgot to sell my energy funds when oil was at $150. Do you think you could talk to Paulson and his pals about a little bailout of some sort? Appreciate it!
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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