What can I do in this situation?

[TheGambino]

Hi brothers,

Im doin good, been working out very well and just feeling great in general which also leads to more dates and more fun with women in general.

Normally I don't really care and I got enough experience to know what to do but this situation is getting tricky and I like this woman, I don't want to make a mistake because I can still turn it around if I do whats right.

Was in a restaurant 6 days ago with my friends. A girl passed our table and gave me a small chosing signal. She glanced and smiled a little bit towards me. After a while I stood up to go to the toilet and then she looked at me again and smiled. When I walked back I saw that her (girl)friend was away from their table so I went to her.

*She is 21 and looks like a religious type! Not north western, shes turkish so most girls from turkey that are younger are known here to be very cautious and relaxed with men. Its a cultural thing dont forget that, my friend told me this, hes turkish too.

me: Hey can I ask you a question
her: Sure!
me: I would like to take your instagram
her: Oh I thought u knew me or so thats why you talk hahaha
me: I dont want to make it akwkard or anything for you in the middle of a full restaurant so I thought I just ask for your IG and go on my way. We could to later then = )
her: Sure *gives her IG and puts it in my phone
her: Where you from?
me: Dududu city
me: Whats your name
her: Whats yours
me: Thanks, well chat later okay, enjoy your evening

So that went great.

She accepts and follows me back 1 hour later.

Then a day later I text her

Me; Hey hope you had fun and your food was good, my sushi was great
her: yeah had much fun thank you so much
me; so what do you do in life
her: I am duduudduud
me: Nice! I am dudududuudu
her: nice, thats good
me: Lets meet up for some drinks and fun, when are you free to get together?
her: Meeting up is going a little bit too fast for me.
me: I understand but I just like to meet up with people, its more personal, and I get a chance to know you , who you are and get a feeling about you
me: I dont like to get to know someone true a phone...
her: are you going to kidnap me?
me: are you going to kidnap me? hahaha
me: I think a drink and a gamehal, playing some games together in a gameroom downtown is enough hahaha
her: okay thats possible
me: Great lets do it, which day are you avaible?
her: sunday
me: great, see you then at 8 at x place
her: oh not in our city, thats not possible (becasue of her family I know it)
me: No problem lets go to city x , i know a few good spots there and its not so far

Then she reads that message but doesnt answer... Its been 9 hours now that she read it but didnt answer.

So clearly there is interest but theres something thats holding her back. Maybe she is afraid of getting in my car , she doesnt know me enough, didnt comfort her enough, didnt build enough report. What can I do? Ask her to videocall with me? I could wait a week then ask her to videocall. Or should I ask her the day of the supossed date if shes still on.

Or should I shoot a text. So meet up there then at 7?

What do you guys think?

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Why waste your opportunity/time and ask for her Instagram when you are standing in-front of her in the first place?
That's just retarded.

Ask for her number and make a instant date on the spot instead.

Hey there, just want to say that I like you, you're cute... Can we date XYZ.... What is your number?

 

[ThisIsSparta]

@TheGambino

If this is a cultural thing (if she is indeed turkish), then there might be 3 cousins behind her watching what she does.
Getting out of town for a first date might be a challenge for her and propably not worth the hassle.

If a first date in your own town is impossible, this woman only going to be trouble down the road.

 

[Stanley]

Why waste your opportunity/time and ask for her Instagram when you are standing in-front of her in the first place?
That's just retarded.

Ask for her number and make a instant date on the spot instead.

Hey there, just want to say that I like you, you're cute... Can we date XYZ.... What is your number?

I don't disagree with moving forward and being clear with intentions and your advice is sound, that said...

Can we stop posting this bird looking dude who cherry picks his creepy attempts at picking up women? Seriously, it doesn't bode well.

His videos are ridiculed for good reason. If men (not teenage boys) actually think his mannerisms, appearance and the like are indicative being successful with women.... then you all are going to have rough time. His content is clickbait garbage and a far cry from reality. Take a look at his most recent videos and you get nothing but weird cliche influencer clickbait such as:

- Homeless Man Pays Peoples Rent!!!
-Epic leaf blower GANG prank!
-7 YEAR OLD HITTING ON OLDER WOMEN (what the actual ****)

21 year girls on a college campus for the most part aren't interested in getting hit on by some early 30's guy while they make their way to Biology. There is a time and place, but using curated video footage of guy 'picking up' girls on youtube carries as much weight as guys here claiming to have laid 100's of girls a year and losing count. And no, I don't want to hear some Blackpill take on "but he's tall"! or anything similar. Regurgitating this type of stuff is why we ALWAYS have posters pop in and out and often say with a degree of genuineness that

"this site is retarded, but there is occasionally some gold nuggets"

because much of the **** perpetuated on here is genuinely retarded...

OP, You've been on this board since 2013, this is common sense. You know what to do. You don't need us

OP, As always, be direct, make you intentions clear and escalate... less you want to invest time and mental energy in something with no guaranteed return.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

I don't disagree with moving forward and being clear with intentions and your advice is sound, that said...

Can we stop posting this bird looking dude who cherry picks his creepy attempts at picking up women? Seriously, it doesn't bode well.

His videos are ridiculed for good reason. If men (not teenage boys) actually think his mannerisms, appearance and the like are indicative being successful with women.... then you all are going to have rough time. His content is clickbait garbage and a far cry from reality. Take a look at his most recent videos and you get nothing but weird cliche influencer clickbait such as:

- Homeless Man Pays Peoples Rent!!!
-Epic leaf blower GANG prank!
-7 YEAR OLD HITTING ON OLDER WOMEN (what the actual ****)

21 year girls on a college campus for the most part aren't interested in getting hit on by some early 30's guy while they make their way to Biology. There is a time and place, but using curated video footage of guy 'picking up' girls on youtube carries as much weight as guys here claiming to have laid 100's of girls a year and losing count. And no, I don't want to hear some Blackpill take on "but he's tall"! or anything similar. Regurgitating this type of stuff is why we ALWAYS have posters pop in and out and often say with a degree of genuineness that

because much of the **** perpetuated on here is genuinely retarded... You've been on this board since 2013, this is common sense. You know what to do. You don't need us

OP, As always, be direct, make you intentions clear and escalate... less you want to invest time and mental energy in something with no guaranteed return.

The principle is the same still whether you like the video of that dude or not because he is demonstrating it well.
Point is that most dudes overcomplicate things for themselves and its the process of picking up girls are not that compilated but more like straightforward which he demonstrates well..

Girls like guys with balls and asking for her IG in her face tells her you got not balls.

Now if you did tell her to her face that you actually like her and you want a date with her shows her you got balls.
Confidence in the game is (almost) everything and that is one key parameter that chicks indeed look for.

Its that simple, stupid.

Don't make it hard on yourself and complicate things that is fairly "easy" if you execute it correctly.

 

[TheGambino]

@TheGambino

If this is a cultural thing (if she is indeed turkish), then there might be 3 cousins behind her watching what she does.
Getting out of town for a first date might be a challenge for her and propably not worth the hassle.

yes. This is right I feel that too.


If a first date in your own town is impossible, this woman only going to be trouble down the road.

So what can I do now? Going to another city in my car is too much but yet again she left me on read on that suggestion.

So reach out again or before date suggest something new. She is obv worth it for me.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

So what can I do now? Going to another city in my car is too much but yet again she left me on read on that suggestion.

So reach out again or before date suggest something new. She is obv worth it for me.

You (most likely), blew your shot at her first time. You could try but she will prolly friendzone you now.
Next!
Move on dude, there is 4.5 billion girls in the world. There is no "the one" out there.

 

[Bigpapa]

Dont ask for instagram, give your instead but make sure your profile is nice, otherwise dont mention instagram.

Do you think that the number of followers count?

Like for example if you have a nice insta but you do not really have a decent amount of followers, do you think that it would be seen negative?

Same thing if you have a lot of followers but your profile is not that nice, do you still think it will be seen as negative?

 

[Learning Curve]

Hi brothers,

Im doin good, been working out very well and just feeling great in general which also leads to more dates and more fun with women in general.

Normally I don't really care and I got enough experience to know what to do but this situation is getting tricky and I like this woman, I don't want to make a mistake because I can still turn it around if I do whats right.

Was in a restaurant 6 days ago with my friends. A girl passed our table and gave me a small chosing signal. She glanced and smiled a little bit towards me. After a while I stood up to go to the toilet and then she looked at me again and smiled. When I walked back I saw that her (girl)friend was away from their table so I went to her.

*She is 21 and looks like a religious type! Not north western, shes turkish so most girls from turkey that are younger are known here to be very cautious and relaxed with men. Its a cultural thing dont forget that, my friend told me this, hes turkish too.

me: Hey can I ask you a question
her: Sure!
me: I would like to take your instagram
her: Oh I thought u knew me or so thats why you talk hahaha
me: I dont want to make it akwkard or anything for you in the middle of a full restaurant so I thought I just ask for your IG and go on my way. We could to later then = )
her: Sure *gives her IG and puts it in my phone
her: Where you from?
me: Dududu city
me: Whats your name
her: Whats yours
me: Thanks, well chat later okay, enjoy your evening

So that went great.

She accepts and follows me back 1 hour later.

Then a day later I text her

Me; Hey hope you had fun and your food was good, my sushi was great
her: yeah had much fun thank you so much
me; so what do you do in life
her: I am duduudduud
me: Nice! I am dudududuudu
her: nice, thats good
me: Lets meet up for some drinks and fun, when are you free to get together?
her: Meeting up is going a little bit too fast for me.
me: I understand but I just like to meet up with people, its more personal, and I get a chance to know you , who you are and get a feeling about you
me: I dont like to get to know someone true a phone...
her: are you going to kidnap me?
me: are you going to kidnap me? hahaha
me: I think a drink and a gamehal, playing some games together in a gameroom downtown is enough hahaha
her: okay thats possible
me: Great lets do it, which day are you avaible?
her: sunday
me: great, see you then at 8 at x place
her: oh not in our city, thats not possible (becasue of her family I know it)
me: No problem lets go to city x , i know a few good spots there and its not so far

Then she reads that message but doesnt answer... Its been 9 hours now that she read it but didnt answer.

So clearly there is interest but theres something thats holding her back. Maybe she is afraid of getting in my car , she doesnt know me enough, didnt comfort her enough, didnt build enough report. What can I do? Ask her to videocall with me? I could wait a week then ask her to videocall. Or should I ask her the day of the supossed date if shes still on.

Or should I shoot a text. So meet up there then at 7?

What do you guys think?

I don't understand some people posting here an advice and saying "she is not interested or low-interest move on"

That's the most stu1pid advice anyone can give.

Anyway moving on.

She is interested for her to give you her IG that's the first side of things. Women nowadays also like IG, i met my GF and we literally hooked up and set dates only from IG we never used the regular phone.

So for anyone claiming this BS use phone not IG is a pure BS. Texting on IG is very easy and i prefer it than the phone because i can see when she actually sees the messages and how long she takes to respond.

IG is the new ERA of texting. Start to adapt.

Moving on.

She did not responded what do we do in such situation? NADA

This means nothing.

Let her reach out within 5-7 days if she does not, simply text her again something different from asking questions related to her not answering or anything like that.

Could be: Don't be shy.. or send her a picture of something and avoid asking anything related to her not responding.

That's your last shot if you text her again and she does not agree to going out or planning a date time to eject.

I would personally not text this chick again unless i really liked her mostly the way she looked or if she was really hot.

Easy as that, good luck.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Do you think that the number of followers count?

Not really. If you are a man who isn't constantly working on his social media, having 500-750 genuine followers is a sign that you are somewhat popular, but not a social media attention wh0re. Most men are way too busy to play IG influencer.

Like for example if you have a nice insta but you do not really have a decent amount of followers, do you think that it would be seen negative?

I have something like 750 followers and I follow about 650. Women can message me without following me, and I also hook women who prefer discretion, if you catch my drift.
So far, about 75% of the women I've given my IG messaged me and send me photos they took.
About 50% of the chats lead to a 'date' (a lot are tourists, the dates are mostly with locals or expats, I don't care much about ONS).
Apart from that I get messages from women who are not in Amsterdam, but I only chat with them if they plan to come over to NL.
However, I make it clear that my IG is just a place to post my poetry and photos taken of me by other people (rarely selfies) and I use social media to promote my books, not to find dates.
I never had negative comments from women on the amount of followers, and some of them follow my posts for years, so I guess they enjoy reading/viewing my posts.

Same thing if you have a lot of followers but your profile is not that nice, do you still think it will be seen as negative?

I think yes. Everybody knows you can 'buy followers' at Fiverr, etc. So if an unattractive/mediocre profile has 10K followers, it won't look authentic.
Another thing is that someone with a huge amount of followers probably spends a lot of time on social media, probably even more than the woman in question, which makes her feel either inferior or that the man is vain and needs a lot of (media) attention.

 

[CornbreadFed]

me: Lets meet up for some drinks and fun, when are you free to get together?
her: Meeting up is going a little bit too fast for me.
me: I understand but I just like to meet up with people, its more personal, and I get a chance to know you , who you are and get a feeling about you

You screwed up here, she either had low interest or wanted to become more comfortable with you before going out. Your Fast Eddy Used Car Salesman tactic didn't work on her lol.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

Maybe a lot of the other posters here don't remember you but I do Gambino, I remember many of your threads were about relentlessly pursuing the first woman who showed you even an inclination of interest, for example your employee, by the way did she end up suing you? Lol, genuinely curious how that went

Anyways, a common theme in your posts is the scarcity mindset you possess taking you on wild rides, something all men experience. I think you need a competitive outlet outside of chasing women, maybe a hobby sport or something, a guy that owns his business and has value as you do shouldn't be struggling like this, you are thinking way too much about these women brother, they come and go.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Also, why are you going for instagram instead of phone?

 

[Clockwerk50]

You screwed up here, she either had low interest or wanted to become more comfortable with you before going out. Your Fast Eddy Used Car Salesman tactic didn't work on her lol.

He went mode one version X lol

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Also, why are you going for instagram instead of phone?

Because this how many of these AFC guys think. Ask for IG and then they think they can "game" her online. So they start and spam her there hoping for a date...but just become yet another thirsty fan follower of her team..
Sigh...
Basically doing everything backwards and then they are in their own safe comfort zone, (With only the cellphone in-front of them, instead of the girl).

Totally stupid and self destructive behavior; but that what most AFC's do these days. Online is the answer to all their prayers instead of IRL.

 

[rench]

What a 4ucking 46607

 

[Bigpapa]

Everything counts. But I think you don't need thousands of followers, as long as you have a few hundred you're ok. If you have more than the girl you're "pursuing" it also doesn't hurt.
My instagram gets better and better, lot of cool stuff, fun content but I only have 600 followers. But I have a nice profile pic, fun stories that showcase my lifestyle. Most girls I met have 100-700followers, some of them have thousands but it's rare.

I recently started something new when I cold approach. I go talk to the girl, I don't ask for anything but I give my instagram and tell her that everything is there, that she will have a fun time stalking me. I tell her that if she likes what she sees, she knows where to find me. I dont ask for phone or instagram. Chit chat for a 2-3 mins and I leave.

It works well, most of the time they reach out. They watch your stories again and again, add you or send you a DM.

Dunno man, most of the girls that I see have at least 1k followers

1k for a dude that is not really going out all the time or does not have some sort of local celebrity status is a lot. 1k for girls is almost nothing from what I see

So was thinking that maybe when you are a normal guy and have a couple of
Hundred followers, women will see this through their experience

Rarely they have less than that, and rarely have more than 3-4k

Not really a social media myself so I do not know what works best in this space,
But for sure if you find the right key social media can maximize your reach in a targeted way

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Low interest. She likes the attention but when it comes time to act on it she bails.

 

[CornbreadFed]

The issue with PUA/Red Pill game is that it sells this Disney mentality that every guy is a special snowflake and they just have to act like it. OP, I hate to break it to you, but you aren't Drake, Brad Pitt, Leonardo Dicaprio, and etc. You are a random average guy that came up to a girl and asked for an Instagram. Yes, maybe Drake can get away with asking a random girl to get in his car, but you aren't drake. Building rapport with a girl is not going to kill you or turn you in to a vile beta male simp like the PUA/Fresh & Fraud Gods brainwashed into you.

 

[TheGambino]

Low interest. She likes the attention but when it comes time to act on it she bails.

I understand where you come from but I had these kind of situations and still fvcked her a month or two later