What can good-looks do that a personality can not?

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Re: Walk with Pride


Do looks matter? Nope. But your style and attitude do [/B]



While you do have a good point about style and attitude, to say the physical attributes such as how you rate on a scale of 1 to 10 are unimportant is incorrect.

A girl takes on a guys life, what he does, his mystic. IMO, they look for guys who are intriguing, live a live of adventure and want to go on his "trip." Some girls want to rule men by having do what they want, but ulitmately, they want to take on a guys life. The problem is that they need to find that rare man who has an intriguing and adventurous life. While this is the most important quality, being physically attractive is still another important factor especially during SEX.
 

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What about the girls who DON'T want an adventerous (sp) guy but wants the alphaness.
 

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Originally posted by tactic
What about the girls who DON'T want an adventerous (sp) guy but wants the alphaness.

Adventureness does not have to physical, but a ride in life. To be that type of individualistic, autonomous, man, you are an alpha because you create your own life by your standards, which is better then societies. Chicks want to live a better life, and to be honest, they can only do this through this type of man.
 

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I'll have to write an essay or something later on, but rest assured, I'm right. I just don't have time to get into it right now. It isn't all about money, either.:rolleyes:

And women are not becomming more like men. If anything they are becomming more like immature little girls.

You guys need to stop giving advice if you don't know what the heck you are talking about - you could cause alot of heartache for someone who listens to your misguided suggestions.

If an ugly, though stylish DJ were to compete with a good looking AFC there would be no comparison between the two. The TRUE DON JUAN would win.
 

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hey this is an good post... i mean i have to agree with some of your points of views.... looks are defenatly anadvantage....
ask yourselfs this question... if a girl is ugly and has a great personality... most wouldnt even look at her as an potential sexual partner.... would we? me personaly no.... and then if you see a sizzlin hottie with an ahuh/bad personality. ofcourse her negative attitude fade away in you beeing attracted to her and thinkin how you can "stick it IN" as soon as possible.... shiii but as yourselfs this what is bad and good personality.... why everything has to be pointed out to us and narrated to us as if whats bad to do and whats good... why cant we decide on our own.... but most of us take other peoples words to create an imagry of another person or whatever. unless we see it ourselves and touch our selves we cant be sure whats good or bad.... i know this lil of da subject but still....
when a girl sees two guys one good looking and another one not so good she ofcourse instantly is wanting the good looking guy... or sees him as a potential bf or whatnot.... but is this good looking guys opens his mouth and starts talking before he even says anything these girl is so blinded by his looks that she can bearly hear what hes saying or whats he talking about at all she just doesnt care if hes talking about complete crap.... on another hand as the time goes on your are not too distracted by somebodys looks if you know them a while even though theyr good looking... so you search for other qualitys in a person boy/girl and then you only then you can see the whole pictre of an person and if you like it you like then you ll be satisfied by whats you see like looking at a great painting... but if you dont like the picture then you ll go to the next one ......

so looks can be an advantage but only so far then its up to you ....... to charm her for good
 

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Men and women are different creatures. Don't be fooled!

Men are the ones who care more about looks. Because youthful beauty is closely linked to fertility in women, her appearance is most important to us. Thats just natural.

However, men can sire children well into old age whereas most women can not. So looks and physical characteristics of youth or "beauty" are not as important to women as they are to men.

If you need more proof, just look around at how many young attractive women date and marry old and/or ugly men! - It happens all the time.
 

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Re: Men and women are different creatures. Don't be fooled!

Originally posted by Spike_the_cowboy
However, men can sire children well into old age whereas most women can not. So looks and physical characteristics of youth or "beauty" are not as important to women as they are to men.

If you need more proof, just look around at how many young attractive women date and marry old and/or ugly men! - It happens all the time.
This is KEYBOARD JOCKEY, EGGHEAD thinking. Go out into the field and get some FIELD EXPERIENCE.

I'm in Hollywood where it's Survival of the Fittest and Most Beautiful compressed into one night. I see this shyt night in and night out because I'm in the field anyway from 2 nights to 5 nights a week. Those examples I gave are REAL LIFE examples, not KEYBOARD JOCKEY shyt that you saw on the Discovery channel.

Oh sure, you can go to super A-list clubs where its rich old men with hot young models, but we're talking your standard Hollywood pick up joints. Girls ALWAYS look for an attractive guy and THEN their style/attitude. A guy with looks can get blown out if he has an AFC attitude, but he's going to have a helluva easier time sarging than someone without looks.
 

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Im not a keyboard jockey, JT47319. I have more life experience than you do, apparently. You do not know what you're talking about, so stop giving bad advice. Go read the DJ Bible and pull your head out of wherever it is currently stuck. No offence, but you sound like a frustrated little boy with girly issues.:p

Are you suggesting that every ugly man have plastic surgery in order to meet attractive women!? Come on, lil' man. You don't know jack shyt. I'm right, you're wrong. Now listen and learn.

Attitude is more important than anything else. Style is more important than looks. Looks come dead last behind many other qualities. This should be good news for you!


Oh, and I'm not an egghead, either. My IQ is matched by my stature.
 

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This thread is awesome because you guys are debating. I love it guys, but please don't hate each other. I want love, HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE. Anyways, keep this arguement going guys. I think looks don't matter to most girls when they realize it.
 

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Damn, Spike is preaching the gospel...

I think that the reason why dudes are so concerned about their looks nowadays is because alot of them lack character...As with anything in life, there are always going to be people that look better than you, but can anyone match your style? Personality?
 

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Mr Cowboy guy your argument does not make sense. You are not a woman, you can't climb in to the body of a woman and know what it is like to be one, the only way you will ever understand is by having a sex change.

The thing that you and some other guys who seem to have a problem of women going for good looks, you are arguing a biological factor for men and social arguement for women (David D'Angelio is also guilty of doing this).

The biological factor for men is that youth and beauty is important for men as this indicates fertility. Therefore the beautiful woman can produce children with good genes.

The social factor is that attitude and confidence is important for women. But attitude and confidence does not necessary mean that the man has good genetic genes to produce healthy children, or good finacial resources to support the children.

Therefore a woman has to compromise between either choosing either a guy who has good resources (e.g lots of money) to help raise her offspring or a handsome guy who can provide good healthy genes, which increases the childrens chances of being immune to parasites.

Most handsome men are often not rich
Many ugly guys are rich, prehaps this big handicap motivates them to be financially successful.

If a woman can find a handsome, rich man, she is laughing. But in real life it is not always that easy. So a woman will often play a ruthless game, the ugly rich (or guy who meets a financial requirements) is the guy she will choose to marry and raise her offspring, but behind his back she will try and get pregnant by the best looking guy she can find (often the unreliable sort after sexy stud). One in ten children are not the children of the fathers they believe they are, and it is believed to be as high as one in five. Ever noticed that when you see a stunning model with an ugly guy, she usually looks miserable and it is not exactly can't keep my hands off him (but then again many guys are immune to reading body language). Ever noticed that when a beautiful woman and ugly guy get together, the children often inherit mum's stunning good looks.

Also if a good looking woman is to have children, there is a high chance that she could have one girl. Seeing that society judges women harshly on their looks, mother has to ensure that her daughter inherits good looks so that her daughter can do well in life (find a rich husband, or be attractive enough in order to attract a man with good genes to produce healthy offspring), therefore she risks a lot buy getting pregnant by an ugly guy.

If you don't like or believe what I am saying, just look how particular women are about their baby's looks when it comes to ordering eggs over the internet.

This is the ideal of what I have described. This doesn't mean that ugly guys or average looking guys will never be loved.

My conclusion is that looks are equally important for men and women, but women often are forced to drop their standards to find a man who is the most suitable for finacially supporting their lifestyle, which often may not be the most handsome guy.
 

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Originally posted by JT47319
Their brains are liquored up, they're horny, and have to kiss/touch anything that's bright and shiny.
I'm guessing that no one ever told you about the side effects of drinking alcohol, huh?:rolleyes:

If getting them drunk is the only way that you can get them then I feel very sorry for you. Women in bars WILL hit on a good looking guy either as a side effect of impaired judgement due to too much drinking/drug use, or simply as an ego boost in front of their pack of girlfriends. In the latter case, you'll never get any, Slick. In the former, you are a loser. Well, in either case really!

If I'm walking down the sidewalk women will yell things from their car window as they drive by. They will strip of undies, flash me, etc. But that car keeps rolling. They just do that for their own egos. Thats all that good looks will get you: teased. It works the same way in bars. Trust me, I know.:cool:
 

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MysteryWoman, the name is Spike.

I know alot about women. Thats my business. I know alot about polar bears, too... But that doesn't mean that I have to be one!

Women care about their own looks because they know thats what "boys like". It only really becomes a matter of competing with other women in the style department. Women show off their style for other women all the time. Women show off their looks to hook men. Men really don't care what brand your purse is. Other women don't really care how fertile you are or not.

If two women are fighting over a man then looks will come into the picture, but otherwise they won't. Thats partially why so many pretty women have dogs for friends. When you are standing in front of an elephant, you look pretty damn cute!

Nice hips, ass, breasts, etc are all signs of fertility that we guys look for on a subconscious level without even knowing it. All we know is that it gets the blood pumping in all the right places, but most of us are not really sure why. Well, now you know.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to rest my eyes after reading through you long ass pointless post!


:cool:
 
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But the thing is, why are thinking of doing all this when all we could do is become influenced greatly by players outside the net world?
 

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Tactic, I'm sorry bro, but half the time I don't know what you are saying... Could you please rephrase your question?
:cool:

Holding this thread up by myself is starting to get old. It is about to go down the AFC crapper when I leave.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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What I mean is...


What is the point of trying to learn from the net if we can just learn from guys around you? If you have friends who get hot girls, you can ask them for help and advice.. They'll help and it'll be easier. I use the net for help but It's not the best confidence-booster in my opinion.
 

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Well Tactic, I'm not sure what that has to do with the nature of this thread... But if you know a real live 'in person' DJ then by all means - Learn from him!
 

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Originally posted by Spike_the_cowboy
It works the same way in bars. Trust me, I know.:cool:
No you don't, you still sound like some Keyboard Jockey regurgitating a National Geographic article about "signs of fertility." That’s the biggest KEYBOARD pick up THEORY that I’ve heard. That ranks right up there with Ross Jeffries’ unfield-tested SS.

You DON'T have FIELD EXPERIENCE. You DON'T have BAR experience. You DON'T have CLUB experience. And you DON'T have PICK UP experience.

Women judge by looks in the same way that men judge by looks, but as Mystery Woman pointed out, a woman may compromise her standards for certain elements like money OR she might be amazed/fun-ergized by someone with an attitude. But both of those are EXCEPTIONS to the rule, not the rule themselves.

The right attitude CAN get you farther than the wrong AFC attitude. I’ve seen sheer persistence pay off in a pickup. But girls will still gravitate towards good looking guy. If you’re NOT good looking, you’re going to have to learn to have a damn tight game.

It’s like walking a tight rope. Good looking guys get a big plank to get to the finish line while average joes have to make do for a clothes line. Your “attitude” and “experience” level can help you out in walking that tightrope (ie more balanced, faster), but it doesn’t make the job easier (ie increase the rope width).

Go out and get some FIELD EXPERIENCE.
 

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If you don't like or believe what I am saying, just look how particular women are about their baby's looks when it comes to ordering eggs over the internet.

And what kind of woman orders human eggs over the internet anyways!?....:rolleyes:

I swear, a few of my brain cells died while reading through your post, MysteryWoman!:p
 

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Originally posted by JT47319
No you don't, you still sound like some Keyboard Jockey regurgitating a National Geographic article about "signs of fertility." That’s the biggest KEYBOARD pick up THEORY that I’ve heard. That ranks right up there with Ross Jeffries’ unfield-tested SS.

You DON'T have FIELD EXPERIENCE. You DON'T have BAR experience. You DON'T have CLUB experience. And you DON'T have PICK UP experience.

Women judge by looks in the same way that men judge by looks, but as Mystery Woman pointed out, a woman may compromise her standards for certain elements like money OR she might be amazed/fun-ergized by someone with an attitude. But both of those are EXCEPTIONS to the rule, not the rule themselves.

The right attitude CAN get you farther than the wrong AFC attitude. I’ve seen sheer persistence pay off in a pickup. But girls will still gravitate towards good looking guy. If you’re NOT good looking, you’re going to have to learn to have a damn tight game.

It’s like walking a tight rope. Good looking guys get a big plank to get to the finish line while average joes have to make do for a clothes line. Your “attitude” and “experience” level can help you out in walking that tightrope (ie more balanced, faster), but it doesn’t make the job easier (ie increase the rope width).

Go out and get some FIELD EXPERIENCE.
You don't know jack shyt about me, n00b. Now get you ass out of here!
 

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