What are you working on with women right now??

[JaegerPilot217]

Exactly, a man can be successful in other areas of his life but be horrible with women, even if a man has done major self-improvement, he still needs to have decent social/conversation skills

 

[Mr Wright]

Exactly, a man can be successful in other areas of his life but be horrible with women, even if a man has done major self-improvement, he still needs to have decent social/conversation skills

That's where I think a few guys in the scene let others down, they tell them that game is crap, when it's not. It has to be a concurrent thing, get in the gym, earn good money, do the hobbies you enjoy doing but also actively get better with women. I bet most people on here have higher hopes for themselves but they're failing to live up to them through fear/lack of effort.

I'm just glad I'm young and I have a lot to look forward to.

 

[zekko]

I've been working on my flirting skills. I have a girlfriend, so it's nothing major. But:

I've had some married friends, and they've always been very vocal about "Oh, I would never cheat on whatshername, we are for life, blah, blah". But then you get them around a few girls, and they are the biggest flirts on the planet, you'd swear they were trying to get into their pants. In some ways this always irritated me. Maybe I was just drinking haterade but it seems like if they were so happily married, why were they getting so sexual with these other girls?

This was one of the problems I had when I came here. I've always tended not to flirt with girls unless I really had an intention toward them, I never saw the point. I'd talk to them, sure, and tease, but not overtly flirt aside from occasionally. So while I don't really want to be like those married friends of mine, I will admit I could use a little more of that in my personality.
So I've been trying to flirt with more girls in my everyday life. Hope it doesn't get me into trouble, lol.

It has to be a concurrent thing, get in the gym, earn good money, do the hobbies you enjoy doing but also actively get better with women.

Yeah, the "Go do hobbies" thing is good, and can work for some guys, depending on their personality, situation, status, social life, looks, etc. But the danger with this approach is that you are ignoring the problem if there is one. If a guy is socially awkward, or socially awkward with women, he may be better off confronting the problem head on, and putting in some practice time.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

That's where I think a few guys in the scene let others down, they tell them that game is crap, when it's not. It has to be a concurrent thing, get in the gym, earn good money, do the hobbies you enjoy doing but also actively get better with women. I bet most people on here have higher hopes for themselves but they're failing to live up to them through fear/lack of effort.

I'm just glad I'm young and I have a lot to look forward to.

ya good thing you are starting this at 21

 

[zekko]

ya good thing you are starting this at 21

Sometimes I think how nice it would be to have had all this information at 21, or younger. But I don't know, I still would have had to go through all the same struggles really. I'm sure I could have dodged a few bullets.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

Sometimes I think how nice it would be to have had all this information at 21, or younger. But I don't know, I still would have had to go through all the same struggles really. I'm sure I could have dodged a few bullets.

ya i'm starting this at 26

 

[narcissist]

I am glad to be starting the DJ journey at 21 as well.

As of right now I need to seriously work on cold approaches.

I only get girls from tinder, close friends, and my school.

If i want those numbers to increase 100 fold I need to seriously get the fxck up and cold approach some hunnies.

I know for a fact I have approach anxiety. But I know it only lasts for the first 20 seconds of the interaction, then it subsides.

I need to man up.

 

[zekko]

ya i'm starting this at 26

Sometimes I think how nice it would be to have had all this information at 26, or younger. But I don't know, I still would have had to go through all the same struggles really. I'm sure I could have dodged a few bullets.

 

[narcissist]

Sometimes I think how nice it would be to have had all this information at 26, or younger. But I don't know, I still would have had to go through all the same struggles really. I'm sure I could have dodged a few bullets.

Just curious zekko. What would be your one piece of advice to us younger guys?

Going through all the experiences you must have probably been through, Im sure it will be a valuable piece of advice.

 

[Bingo-Player]

ha i like this thread

il be first too admit that my current form with women is horrendous haven't had a bang since Christmas and had some awful flakey women last few months hell i wouldn't of even found this forum if it wasn't for one of them

but also finding women in my city to be extremely flippant and arrogant they believe they can do a lot better than they are ...i blame this on 3 things

1) sh*tty reality tv shows such as TOWIE and MIC

2) Premier league football players and the worshipped "WAG" status

3) every single average looking guy is now a wannabe playboy

women around here are actually making me feel sick lately

anyway what il be working on for the remainder of the year

1) lowering my standards - i wouldn't exactly say they are ridiculously high but i think I'm only really attracted to a certain look and when i find it drives me wild and i loose my frame

i have a sick ability to find hidden potential in women and i need to use it more to my advantage

2) slowly begin to kill off all my social media - lately i feel social media is killing the game it empowers women and boosts they're egos too beyond a joke also the source of a LOT of problems and arguments

 

[JaegerPilot217]

Sometimes I think how nice it would be to have had all this information at 26, or younger. But I don't know, I still would have had to go through all the same struggles really. I'm sure I could have dodged a few bullets.

ya, oh well, you live and learn

 

[Maximus Rex]

Powerful Thread

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Mr Wright again.

This was a powerful posting Wright and I feel as if it could have been written for me. You're experience in the field is starting to reveal itself in the profundity of quality threads such as this. Keep them coming brother.

As far as your boy Rex, it's the damn approach anxiety, I have to effin' conquer it by hook or crook. I just need to go in and holla with no effs given just to get the experience under my belt and to lessen it's gripe on me.

 

[Mr Wright]

As far as your boy Rex, it's the damn approach anxiety, I have to effin' conquer it by hook or crook. I just need to go in and holla with no effs given just to get the experience under my belt and to lessen it's gripe on me.

Getting rid of approach anxiety is all about momentum. To break that initial nervousness, you can start by just being social and transition slowly into an actual approach. I bet you could go up to a hot girl and ask for something simple that wasn't dating related. It's once you're aware that you're approaching her to pick her up that you get the nerves. So start simple and pick up the momentum. Get out 3-4 days a week, it's cumulative when you approach often and obviously it's worth it.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Agreed

Getting rid of approach anxiety is all about momentum. To break that initial nervousness, you can start by just being social and transition slowly into an actual approach. I bet you could go up to a hot girl and ask for something simple that wasn't dating related. It's once you're aware that you're approaching her to pick her up that you get the nerves. So start simple and pick up the momentum. Get out 3-4 days a week, it's cumulative when you approach often and obviously it's worth it.

Astute observation. For me it's all about knocking out that initial first approach, (whether it's good or bad.) After I'm good.

 

[zekko]

Just curious zekko. What would be your one piece of advice to us younger guys?

Going through all the experiences you must have probably been through, Im sure it will be a valuable piece of advice.

No pressure there, lol.

Seriously, you probably won't care for this, but my one piece of advice for younger guys has nothing to do with women. It is to start planning for your retirement NOW. When people talk about the power of compound interest, the more years it has to grow, the more crazy it gets. People who start early (when they're very young) have a massive advantage if they are serious about it. But they have to be serious about it. I know it can be hard for young people to save for retirement, because their incomes are lower and they're just getting started. But all the more reason to get your career going and your house in order.

As far as women go, I don't know, just be true to yourself. We all have different goals as far as women go, so there is no one size fits all advice, IMO. It's never been my ambition to be a "player" type, or a PUA. I just want to be able to attract the girls I want to attract.

 

[Mr Wright]

Astute observation. For me it's all about knocking out that initial first approach, (whether it's good or bad.) After I'm good.

The first approach is always the toughest, I think that's universal. If it helps, I don't think there is anyone(sane) who has truly beaten approach anxiety because it does have a natural function. Like a lot of things in game, you just have to reframe it and move forward. Let us know how you get on.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

By the way is it okay to go out with the sole intention for approaching girls for the sake or practice, overcoming approach anxiety? Because obviously girls are not gonna knock on the door, I don't care if I get rejected, i intend to be outcome dependent about it, I just want to go out to get practice, such as going to the mall or hanging out at coffee shops more often, parks, etc.