What age group should I be pursuing?

[Maxtro]

So I'm a 27 year old guy who's going to a university in SoCal. I look much younger than I am. People often ask if I'm a freshman or if they try to guess my age they think I'm ~20. I am currently passing myself off as 23 and everybody is buying it.

There are several reasons why I'm saying I'm 23.

1. The vast majority of girls I run into at school are 18-21. I'm pretty sure that most 18 year old girls think hooking up with a guy almost 10 years older than them is gross.

2. I'm actually nowhere as mature as a guy my age. Most men my age have already graduated college and are working on their careers. They may be married or have a girlfriend they've been seeing for a year or more. But in my case I went back to school. I also have not had a single relationship in my life. I have simply not gone through the things with women, that most men my age have.

3. I can pull it off

So now I'm wondering what age group of women I should be chasing? Women my age are far too mature for me. I simply cannot relate to their lives. They have gone through far more things in life they have, be it work or in love. I may feel like a child to them.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, the vast majority of the girls I know are 18-19. I have a lot in common with girls in that age bracket because we are both going to school and live a similar lifestyle. Many have been in a relationship that lasted a year or so and are actually more mature than I in that aspect. They are also young and are still learning. But because I haven't actually done the relationship thing, I would learn with them. Heck I just learned what love is and what a real broken heart feels like. I was amazed when a girl 9 years my junior called me immature and realized she was correct. Also I suck at sex and I don't think that a girl in that age bracket would expect a lot from a guy.

One drawback from these young girls is that they can still be immature and petty. Though I wonder if an older girl would be more understanding and patient? Still they are in a university so it means they must have some intelligence. A possible issue is that I can't go out and have a drink with somebody under 21. I hardly ever drink so it's not really a problem and nothing is stopping me from buying something and drinking it at home.

So what kind of girls, should a guy like me be after?

 

[Jitterbug]

The legal age group.

One drawback from these young girls is that they can still be immature and petty. Though I wonder if an older girl would be more understanding and patient?

Often they don't actually get any better when they get older, if they were that bad when they were younger. They maybe get better at acting older though.

An older girl is likely less patient with an inexperienced guy as she doesn't have much time left to waste. Although if you're lucky to get an older FB (like I did) and for some reason she's into teaching inexperienced young blokes, go for it!

Still they are in a university so it means they must have some intelligence.

:crackup:

You're gonna have a lot of fun learning it the hard way!

 

[slaog]

I'm 29 and my GF is 21. Thats a good age. I set boundaries and let her know I expect high standards. She asked me was it ok to wear her 'blonds have more fun t-shirt' yesterday. lol


Regarding women maturing. I wouldn't confuse maturity for quality either. An older women might be more mature then a younger woman but that doesn't mean the older woman is higher quality.


Anyway, I wouldn't worry too much about age.

 

[Maxtro]

Thanks guys so I guess age doesn't matter that much as long as she's legal. I was just wondering if women are easier to get along with if they are older. Or if they are more free with their sexuality.

 

[Truman181]

1. The vast majority of girls I run into at school are 18-21. I'm pretty sure that most 18 year old girls think hooking up with a guy almost 10 years older than them is gross.

You reek of insecurity.

Understand this: this is your low self esteem manifesting itself and not an external fact.

You are insecure and your age is just the convenient focal point. If you were 22, you're insecurity would have a different focal point. If you were balding, you wouldn't even care about your age. If you were fat you wouldn't even care about your age. If you had 2 teeth in your head, you wouldn't even care about your age. Instead of your age, you would be focused on all of those external factors as a source of why you can't (or won't) take action.

When I was 26 and a sophomore in college I wanted to date a hot 19 year old but I felt too old. That was my insecurity speaking because 2 years later, I was dating a 20 year old.

Women do not have a problem dating older if you don't have a problem dating younger. You may THINK you do not have a problem dating younger....okay well then smart guy....why did you make this post?

You DID NOT make this post because younger women think you're too old for them to date. I mean how would you know what they think? Did they ask you to get on here and make this post because you are too old for THEM?

You made this post because you are insecure about dating younger. This post you made is reactionary to rejection that hasn't occurred.

Examples of women dating older are abundant. Last year I went out with a 27 year old but I lost her to a 47 year old. Before that I went out with a 24 year old who wanted to marry me.

And just last month I had a 24 year old fvck buddy who told me she had dated a 42 year old as PROOF that she was old enough for me.

Women do not see age as much as you think. Women see high status males.

Sometimes when my insecurity gets the better of me, I doubt myself just as you do. For instance with the 24 year old I had for a fvck buddy last month...when I was first hooking up with her I made her qualify herself to me over the age gap between us. I had her arguing FOR us getting together and that the age gap didn't matter while I sat back and let her "talk herself up" to me.

Funny thing is whenever I try to disqualify myself based on age (in order to get her to qualify herself to me) women get almost angry that I would even make the age gap an issue.

It's as if they don't want to be told who they will or will not be attracted to, they will fvck whoever they damn well please and they will prove it to you by golly.

Women don't want us thinking for them so stop doing it. You can't possibly know what a woman thinks....you aren't her now are you? So therefore if you insist on using your IMAGINATION to think for another person do so in YOUR favor and stop putting limitations on yourself. Imagine her thinking about how much she wants an older, dominant man to fvck her brains out.

Finally....27 is still pretty damn young in the scheme of things. So enjoy it while it lasts. And deal with your insecurities NOW while you still actually are young. If you don't, imagine how much more insecure you will be about your age when you get to be 32.

 

[Maxtro]

Thank you for your post Truman181.

Yes I am insecure. The biggest reason that I hide my age is that I'm embarrassed that I have accomplished so little. If a girl were to ask questions I would have to explain how I wasted so many years of my life. There are many things about my past that I do not want people to know, especially young girls that I want to spend more time with. The I'm 23 cover story is far less embarrassing.

I don't think I feel too old to date young women. Heck if you were to see my threads in general you'd know that I was almost dating an 18 year old who rejected me. I wouldn't be surprised if the next girl I hang out with and hopefully date is 18. There will be a huge influx of freshmen girls starting school in the fall and I plan to capitalize on that.

 

[Truman181]

Maxtro -

I knew you were insecure about something. For you age just seems to be a measuring stick that you are comparing yourself to as if a 27 year old should have accomplished X, Y and Z by now.

Forget about women for a moment. You are not happy with what you have made of your life so far. What will it take for you to feel PRIDE and FULFILLMENT in your life? Only you can know the answer.

I've worked a lot on my own inner game and this particular issue has popped up for me too. I come to think of it as me not being at peace with my place in the world. Does that make sense? It was as if I were struggling to see where I fit in this world. Like everyone else knew their place in the world and I didn't and I felt as if was trying so hard to find it. Can you relate?

What's the solution? Like I said, you have to find your own way. You are going to college, do you have a major? Do you know what you want your career to be? If not, do some serious soul searching...

But maybe that doesn't apply to you. Maybe you're in college now and you know what you want to do. Maybe you're on your path now and you're just embarrassed when meeting new women that you aren't further along then you are. If so, just share your excitement about your future with the women you meet. Women are turned on by guys who have that passion and excitement about life. Don't worry about your past and don't lie. Just say I was a lazy bum during that period (it's okay if you disqualify yourself a little - this is the opposite of feeling you have to qualify yourself to someone...you don't need her approval right) and leave it at that. Who knows, maybe she can relate. We all can right? We've all been a lazy bum once in awhile.

Finally, as to the age range of the women you should date...if you want less mature girls who like the bar scene then any girl under 25 will do. If you want more mature acting women, try a little bit older. However, that doesn't always hold true. I've dated women in their 30s who act like children and women under 25 who were pretty level headed.

Anyway, good luck to you and I hope anything I said might have some value for you.

 

[Colossus]

Thanks guys so I guess age doesn't matter that much as long as she's legal. I was just wondering if women are easier to get along with if they are older. Or if they are more free with their sexuality.

I have found this to be true. I actually prefer girls who are 27-30, because they are more genuine, straightforward, and comfortable with their sexuality.

Ive kind of flip-flopped on this a bit over the last year, but I'm finding that this age group is much easier to get along with and doesnt have the immature annoyances of the college-girl group.

Not to say I wouldnt hook up with a 19 year old, but I cant take them seriously if you know what I mean.

 

[GuanYu]

I know exactly what you mean Colossus. It seems like the typical college girls who aren't complete skanks want to be chased a fair bit before giving up the goods. Luckily, I found a few that were easy and just want to bang.

Investing time in chasing college girls is a complete waste of time. I doubt it's even worth it if you have to provide anything more then a phonecall and time to hang out.

Maxtro, since you have your own place you have a lot of power when it comes to gaming college girls bro. Just find some you like, get their numbers and invite them over to hang out. See if they want to drink and escalate. If they reject, be cool and chill with them for a while but then kick them out using an excuse or two.

Since you seem insecure you should practice on a few hoes you don't legitimately want to take seriously. Hell, you shouldn't take any 18-24 year old seriously, but still practice makes perfect.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

Examples of women dating older are abundant. Last year I went out with a 27 year old but I lost her to a 47 year old. Before that I went out with a 24 year old who wanted to marry me.

And just last month I had a 24 year old fvck buddy who told me she had dated a 42 year old as PROOF that she was old enough for me.

Women do not see age as much as you think. Women see high status males.

Yes, if you carry yourself like a secure, attractive man, she will be the one jumping your hoops. When they are interested, they will say stuff like, "I've dated much older", I've gotten that from women who were 8-12 years younger than me.

 

[The Logical Player]

your whole thread is all a big waste of time and analysis

what age group should you pursue? ANY DAMN AGE GROUP THAT YOU WANT

but the bigger question is, do YOU think that any of these women are interested in Maxtro?

based on how you have posted about yourself, the answer is a big fat NO WAY

so dude, Maxtro, you are currently lacking in every single quality that a woman of any age would want (and I know this based on reading threads that you posted), so the REAL THING YOU NEED TO BE WORRIED ABOUT is improving your appearance, and hanging out with as many women as possible to gain experience - there is no other way around this, no way to sidestep the TRUTH

 

[Colossus]

your whole thread is all a big waste of time and analysis

...Coming from the guy who is trying to convince us that no man should ever have a girlfriend.


Maxtro-

I forgot to mention that I was a 24-26 year old in college. It was tough. You are (or I was) at a different stage mentally than almost all of them. College is very much a social bubble in terms of attitude, lifestyle, and game. This is the first time most people live away from home, and they are living as such. Everything is very homogenous, and it's tough to break through this immature simplistic world these girls live in and get them to take you seriously. You are in Rome, so to speak, and if you arent doing what the Romans do, you are kind of outsider.

My take on older guys in undergrad is this: if you try too hard to fit in with these young girls, you will only make yourself look bad. If you have some confidence and ambition, some of them will come to you. It is much better for you to operate this way and pursue other, older girls outside of school than get in a loop of endless frustration with these young brats and their games. Personally, I find girls in undergrad have little to offer other than a hot as$, and the effort you will expend in attaining this as$ is rarely worth it.

Did I bang some girls in college? Sure. But nowhere near the number of chicks my 20 year-old party animal/hockey player roommates did. To be fair, my game in college was nowhere near where it is today--I was inexperienced and out of my comfort zone. But I had a few friends who were 25-27 like me and they had similar experiences.

So I hope that helps a bit.

 

[The Logical Player]

...Coming from the guy who is trying to convince us that no man should ever have a girlfriend.


Maxtro-

I forgot to mention that I was a 24-26 year old in college. It was tough. You are (or I was) at a different stage mentally than almost all of them. College is very much a social bubble in terms of attitude, lifestyle, and game. This is the first time most people live away from home, and they are living as such. Everything is very homogenous, and it's tough to break through this immature simplistic world these girls live in and get them to take you seriously. You are in Rome, so to speak, and if you arent doing what the Romans do, you are kind of outsider.

My take on older guys in undergrad is this: if you try too hard to fit in with these young girls, you will only make yourself look bad. If you have some confidence and ambition, some of them will come to you. It is much better for you to operate this way and pursue other, older girls outside of school than get in a loop of endless frustration with these young brats and their games. Personally, I find girls in undergrad have little to offer other than a hot as$, and the effort you will expend in attaining this as$ is rarely worth it.

Did I bang some girls in college? Sure. But nowhere near the number of chicks my 20 year-old party animal/hockey player roommates did. To be fair, my game in college was nowhere near where it is today--I was inexperienced and out of my comfort zone. But I had a few friends who were 25-27 like me and they had similar experiences.

So I hope that helps a bit.

you are thickheaded to quote me on that line, without actually reading WHY i said this thread is a big waste of time and analysis for Maxtro

you gotta look at the bigger picture, instead of nitpicking to help your own argument

 

[Maxtro]

Maxtro -

I knew you were insecure about something. For you age just seems to be a measuring stick that you are comparing yourself to as if a 27 year old should have accomplished X, Y and Z by now.

Forget about women for a moment. You are not happy with what you have made of your life so far. What will it take for you to feel PRIDE and FULFILLMENT in your life? Only you can know the answer.

I've worked a lot on my own inner game and this particular issue has popped up for me too. I come to think of it as me not being at peace with my place in the world. Does that make sense? It was as if I were struggling to see where I fit in this world. Like everyone else knew their place in the world and I didn't and I felt as if was trying so hard to find it. Can you relate?

What's the solution? Like I said, you have to find your own way. You are going to college, do you have a major? Do you know what you want your career to be? If not, do some serious soul searching...

But maybe that doesn't apply to you. Maybe you're in college now and you know what you want to do. Maybe you're on your path now and you're just embarrassed when meeting new women that you aren't further along then you are. If so, just share your excitement about your future with the women you meet. Women are turned on by guys who have that passion and excitement about life. Don't worry about your past and don't lie. Just say I was a lazy bum during that period (it's okay if you disqualify yourself a little - this is the opposite of feeling you have to qualify yourself to someone...you don't need her approval right) and leave it at that. Who knows, maybe she can relate. We all can right? We've all been a lazy bum once in awhile.

Finally, as to the age range of the women you should date...if you want less mature girls who like the bar scene then any girl under 25 will do. If you want more mature acting women, try a little bit older. However, that doesn't always hold true. I've dated women in their 30s who act like children and women under 25 who were pretty level headed.

Anyway, good luck to you and I hope anything I said might have some value for you.

Yeah I do have a major and I pretty much know exactly what I want my career to be when I get out of college. I'm also very lucky to have an on-campus job where I'm directly working under the guy who does what I want to do. It's almost like a paid internship. Honestly I would volunteer if they decided to stop paying me. So as long as I don't do anything stupid and get kicked out of school; career and financial wise my life will be set.

Also up until summer of last year I was living with my grandmother and that was really bringing me down. Now I'm at an OK place with decent roommates. There is no reason at all why I don't have a girl in my bed every night.

So the only thing that really bugs me about my life is women. But that can't be right. Women are not the answer, there has to be something else that is holding me back.

I think I will stick to less mature girls. The bar scene isn't at all important to me and I got better things to spend my cash on then booze.

I have found this to be true. I actually prefer girls who are 27-30, because they are more genuine, straightforward, and comfortable with their sexuality.

Ive kind of flip-flopped on this a bit over the last year, but I'm finding that this age group is much easier to get along with and doesnt have the immature annoyances of the college-girl group.

Not to say I wouldnt hook up with a 19 year old, but I cant take them seriously if you know what I mean.

Actually I don't know what you mean. That's why I made this thread. I guess the simple solution is to do what blueblue said and to pursue women of all age groups. It's not like I'm looking for a relationship or anything. If an older girl thinks I'm immature, so what. Still I plan to "hang out" with a lot of college age girls in the near future. There is no way I'm going to let this year go by without getting laid.

Thank you for mentioned the sexuality aspect.

but the bigger question is, do YOU think that any of these women are interested in Maxtro?

based on how you have posted about yourself, the answer is a big fat NO WAY

so dude, Maxtro, you are currently lacking in every single quality that a woman of any age would want (and I know this based on reading threads that you posted), so the REAL THING YOU NEED TO BE WORRIED ABOUT is improving your appearance, and hanging out with as many women as possible to gain experience - there is no other way around this, no way to sidestep the TRUTH

Thank you for your uh....advice
Working on my look will only get me so far. I'm working out and always trying to improve my style. But honestly none of that really even matters. I know that if my game was better I could get almost any girl I wanted.

Hanging out with more women is something I REALLY need to do. My biggest problem is that I usually only spend time with girls when it's just the two of us alone and that's a dangerous situation since I start to get attached. I need to start hanging out with groups of people.

I forgot to mention that I was a 24-26 year old in college. It was tough. You are (or I was) at a different stage mentally than almost all of them. College is very much a social bubble in terms of attitude, lifestyle, and game. This is the first time most people live away from home, and they are living as such. Everything is very homogenous, and it's tough to break through this immature simplistic world these girls live in and get them to take you seriously. You are in Rome, so to speak, and if you arent doing what the Romans do, you are kind of outsider.

My take on older guys in undergrad is this: if you try too hard to fit in with these young girls, you will only make yourself look bad. If you have some confidence and ambition, some of them will come to you. It is much better for you to operate this way and pursue other, older girls outside of school than get in a loop of endless frustration with these young brats and their games. Personally, I find girls in undergrad have little to offer other than a hot as$, and the effort you will expend in attaining this as$ is rarely worth it.

Did I bang some girls in college? Sure. But nowhere near the number of chicks my 20 year-old party animal/hockey player roommates did. To be fair, my game in college was nowhere near where it is today--I was inexperienced and out of my comfort zone. But I had a few friends who were 25-27 like me and they had similar experiences.

So I hope that helps a bit.

Thank you very much for that post. Even though I look about the same age as most of the people, my personality is vastly different from the average college guy. Because of that and the fact that I'm a bit of an introvert I am an outsider. I'm finding it very difficult to break into social circles. I'm so sick eating my lunch alone. In all honesty this whole entire time I've been at Cal State I've only hung out with two people out side of school and one of them was the girl that fell in love with.

I'm really trying to build or join a social circle but it's not working so far.

 

[The Logical Player]

Thank you for your uh....advice
Working on my look will only get me so far. I'm working out and always trying to improve my style. But honestly none of that really even matters. I know that if my game was better I could get almost any girl I wanted.

Hanging out with more women is something I REALLY need to do. My biggest problem is that I usually only spend time with girls when it's just the two of us alone and that's a dangerous situation since I start to get attached. I need to start hanging out with groups of people.

listen, you have not gotten anywhere because you have BARELY worked on your appearance.........if you only dedicated yourself to becoming physically attractive, your other issues would lessen DRASTICALLY. And dude, read some gunwitch please, and also listen to my personal experience - being alone with a girl is THE way to get p*ssy. Start thinking more with your d1ck and less with your heart.

 

[Trader]

Oh come on - you already know the answer to this question

Go for the type of girls YOU like, regardless of age

I was in a similar situation as you - I was 25 and finishing up my Masters. I took this freshman girl (18 years old) to some school dance. She had no problem with me being older.

Just tell girls your true age, it's all good.

 

[GQ_Confidence_1]

Truman gave you some great advice, especially the line..."Women do not have a problem dating older if you don't have a problem dating younger."

I'm 30, but more like 23 or 25. Playing video games, etc. I still look young, 23. The 2000's I think have been weird for a lot of people, in terms of time passing by, and your age.

The world is not cut in stone like it was 25 years ago, where there was a clearer definition of 18, 22, 25, 30. People followed these milestones and markers. No one is carding you now, no one cares.

But meet every girl...you'll regret at 35 not talking to as many girls as possible, and having as many experiences as possible. Life goes by too fast and there are too many distractions to do otherwise. Talk to girls at airports, talk to girls hailing a cab outside the airport, check out the flight attendants. Especially girls in different areas, different cities. I think it'd be tragic for any man to go through life and never experience a woman in a different city or state. There's such variety. There's women everywhere, its sick. To think, they've always been there, they're always going to be there.

The real fear as you get older isnt age, its that you didnt see enough.