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[JaegerPilot217]

Trump, Mike32ct and JaegerPilot217.

Why is it that so many guys place so much importance on getting laid?

Does getting some p*ssy actually change your outlook of life?

What's so bad about being a virgin? ...getting laid for the first time is easy, assuming you're willing to drastically lower your standards.

The REAL reason why guys want to be good with women and get laid a lot is so they can feel good about themselves.

So actually OP's REAL problem is that he feels worthless...not that he is a virgin.

Women aren't important...most are too stupid or too average as people to place any importance with.



The more life experiences and well-rounded a man becomes, the more he sees women for what they really are.

I guess the primal urge for sex just does not go away, it's natural and built-in to us

 

[Mike32ct]

Trump, Mike32ct and JaegerPilot217.

Why is it that so many guys place so much importance on getting laid?


Ego, society and media, and biology all combined.

Does getting some p*ssy actually change your outlook of life?

Not really other than a stress reliever lol.

What's so bad about being a virgin?

Nothing is bad about it per se. The problem is that sex is rubbed in our faces so much that it really hurts to feel "left out."

As I said before, being a virgin (to a very late age) wasn't so bad. I actually didn't crave sex THAT much because I hadn't tried it yet. (I couldn't miss what I hadn't experienced.)

The real problem was listening to guy friends, male relatives, etc. constantly talk about women, lays, BJs, makeouts, etc. These conversations would go on for hours. Of course, I had nothing to contribute. It was either listen to other guys' exploits (whether true or exaggerated) or be a complete loner. Many times I would have to eventually walk away from such conversations holding back tears because I was constantly reminded that I was "weird" and "left out."

So, anyway, there is nothing wrong with being a virgin. The only real downsides are hearing everybody else's sexual relationship gossip and seeing other guys with girls.

...getting laid for the first time is easy, assuming you're willing to drastically lower your standards.

I will respectfully disagree with this. A lot of guys simply don't know HOW to get a female to that point, or their lack of looks (with possible social awkwardness) makes it extremely difficult to pull it off or they don't have access to many women (i.e. no social circle) or some combination of those. Of course, once you score once, it gets easier, but the first one isn't easy unless he meets an aggressive female who makes it easy for him.

The REAL reason why guys want to be good with women and get laid a lot is so they can feel good about themselves.

True.

So actually OP's REAL problem is that he feels worthless...not that he is a virgin.

Certainly it's a factor.

Women aren't important...most are too stupid or too average as people to place any importance with.

I agree completely, but it's easy for me to say that because I'm older. It's a very difficult thing for a young guy to digest.

The more life experiences and well-rounded a man becomes, the more he sees women for what they really are.

Again very true, but it's hard for a young guy to see it that way.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

Maybe attend a boot-camp OP?

 

[Mr Wright]

Maybe attend a boot-camp OP?

The problem with book camps are that they're really expensive for only a few days work. You can get across the first stage, let's say opening but then you'd need to work on another area and another area. Guys need continuous support not some weekend fantasy camp where they get to hang out with their heros, hit on chicks, get their state pumped up. A month down the line, you're back to where you are before.

 

[Mike32ct]

The problem with book camps are that they're really expensive for only a few days work. You can get across the first stage, let's say opening but then you'd need to work on another area and another area. Guys need continuous support not some weekend fantasy camp where they get to hang out with their heros, hit on chicks, get their state pumped up. A month down the line, you're back to where you are before.

I agree with all this.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

I agree with all this.

True but what about working with a dating and relationship coach, consultant, similar to like Will Smith's character "Hitch"? They can give constructive criticism, tell you what you are doing right and wrong, for example a guy like David Wygant or those RSD instructors

 

[JaegerPilot217]

And there are some boot-camps in which you get to work weekly or monthly with the Coach

 

[Mike32ct]

Overall, I think it's best learn by yourself. Every guy is so different. The downside of a guru is they are basically try to get you to adopt THEIR personality and way of doing things that might not suit you.

I went out with a former top guy (who shall remain nameless) for a private coaching session for one night. While it was interesting and fun, realistically, there was no way I could adopt his "style." When I tried his stuff on my own, it came across as really try hard and made my game worse because it just wasn't "me."

I mean if you could find the right "Hitch" that would work with you and your personality, then fine. But otherwise, I wouldn't.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

Overall, I think it's best learn by yourself. Every guy is so different. The downside of a guru is they are basically try to get you to adopt THEIR personality and way of doing things that might not suit you.

I went out with a former top guy (who shall remain nameless) for a private coaching session for one night. While it was interesting and fun, realistically, there was no way I could adopt his "style." When I tried his stuff on my own, it came across as really try hard and made my game worse because it just wasn't "me."

I mean if you could find the right "Hitch" that would work with you and your personality, then fine. But otherwise, I wouldn't.

Ya I'm working with David Wygant and he is all about being your best natural self, I'm sure he knows that it won't help guys by duplicating his personality

 

[Mike32ct]

Ya I'm working with David Wygant and he is all about being your best natural self, I'm sure he knows that it won't help guys by duplicating his personality

Ok cool.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

Ok cool.

Ya I gotta take matters into my own hands somehow