Were "just friends" and i dont know how to make a move

[iB_Rocking]

people, please help me. i need help badly and i really dont have anyone to turn to for advice because my friends are too snoopy....

Ok fellas please hear me out.
I been chilling with this girl for 2 weeks now and i always been one of those shy guys as far as making a move. I can be around Girls no problem but as far as making a move(trying to kiss them or something) i ***** out. SO i got the perfect oppurtunity with this one girl i mentioned earlier and she said she wanted to hang out. So we did. We just basically spent a day going to malls,art exzibits....stuff like that. The next day she wanted to chill again so we did at her pad(watched TV, ate. talked about random stuff) The thing is we were in bed sitting next to each other for like 5 hours straight. Now before you guys go ahead and ask me wut the problem is let me explain: She kinda likes to chill and do this kinda stuff with a LOT of guys, but the thing is she is a vergin(i know her best friend) and she told me herself before. And we got into talking about how guys contantly try to take advantage of her when she kicks it with them and once in a while she will satisfy them by making out with them once in a while but thats it..... and she asked me if I was like that....and i basically said im a super cool friend who would NEVER EVER try anything like that and im EXTREMELY happy staying friends with her. Well the problem is im sprung as **** over her now and i cant get her outa my head. I can honestly tell she just wanted to chill with me because she just likes my company as FRIENDS.

Can you guys give me any advice i can do to get outa the friend zone? But just remember im a super ***** when it comes to making the first moves................so what would you guys do in my spot? Should i confess or try to reach for a kiss next time we kick it?

 

[BlackJackal]

How old are u jr?

Let me tell you something. I dont often give advice at all, but I'ma tell you whats up. Being able to chill with a girl and feel on a girl are two different things. Now the only way to turn this around is you gotta make a move. 5 hours alone in the bed with a women. You should've at least touched a thigh.

Super friend? Dude drop that title. You're not taking on the Legion of Doom here. This is just a girl. Quit worrying about her feelings so much. Make a move on her. She may give you the green light, she may not. But you'll never know if you dont try. But I know this, when she gives up her virginity, its gonna be with a MAN. BE that.

 

[iB_Rocking]

How old are u jr?

Let me tell you something. I dont often give advice at all, but I'ma tell you whats up. Being able to chill with a girl and feel on a girl are two different things. Now the only way to turn this around is you gotta make a move. 5 hours alone in the bed with a women. You should've at least touched a thigh.

Super friend? Dude drop that title. You're not taking on the Legion of Doom here. This is just a girl. Quit worrying about her feelings so much. Make a move on her. She may give you the green light, she may not. But you'll never know if you dont try. But I know this, when she gives up her virginity, its gonna be with a MAN. BE that.

im 19 and shes 18.
the thing is i wanted to touch a thigh(especially the fact that she was wearing super short shorts) but theres always that chance she dont react cool to it and she kicks me outa her house and were no longer friends.....thats my x factor im worried about

 

[Pimp-sicle]

You have no chance with this girl, on top of the fact that you've already missed several chances to close, you castrated yourself by telling her you would "NEVER EVER" try to make a move on her... bam you put yourself in the friend zone here and deeply buried yourself.

You need to read the DJ Bible, you've got a lot of reading to do.





PIMP

 

[ARrocket]

people, please help me. i need help badly and i really dont have anyone to turn to for advice because my friends are too snoopy....

Ok fellas please hear me out.
I been chilling with this girl for 2 weeks now and i always been one of those shy guys as far as making a move.
This is your first problem...2 weeks is too long, you need to move sooner...grab your balls, realize you're a man and just do it!
I can be around Girls no problem but as far as making a move(trying to kiss them or something) i ***** out. SO i got the perfect oppurtunity with this one girl i mentioned earlier and she said she wanted to hang out. So we did. We just basically spent a day going to malls,art exzibits....stuff like that. The next day she wanted to chill again so we did at her pad(watched TV, ate. talked about random stuff)
She was interested
The thing is we were in bed sitting next to each other for like 5 hours straight.
Yup, this was your chance, and you missed it big time. I think you realize this, so that's good.
Now before you guys go ahead and ask me wut the problem is let me explain: She kinda likes to chill and do this kinda stuff with a LOT of guys, but the thing is she is a vergin(i know her best friend) and she told me herself before. And we got into talking about how guys contantly try to take advantage of her when she kicks it with them and once in a while she will satisfy them by making out with them once in a while but thats it.....
Now this is important...she likes to chill with these guys because she is waiting for someone to man up and get her! Yeah she'll make out with guys who will make a move, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT SHE IS WAITING FOR!! Then when they become wussies, she lets them go.
and she asked me if I was like that....and i basically said im a super cool friend who would NEVER EVER try anything like that and im EXTREMELY happy staying friends with her.
I cringed when I read this. Don't EVER do that again. You came across as a pvssy and you pretty much lost any chance with this girl right here.
Well the problem is im sprung as **** over her now and i cant get her outa my head. I can honestly tell she just wanted to chill with me because she just likes my company as FRIENDS.

Can you guys give me any advice i can do to get outa the friend zone? But just remember im a super ***** when it comes to making the first moves................so what would you guys do in my spot? Should i confess or try to reach for a kiss next time we kick it?

My comments are up there in bold ^ OK, you are deep in the friendzone, and you put yourself there by not being sexual and being a wussy nice boy. You say you are scared to make a move because you don't want to lose her as a friend, but ASK YOURSELF THIS: Can you really be "just friends" with this girl? You are attracted to her. You want to fvck her brains out, not be there for her when she talks about other guys who are fvcking her brains out. Therefore, a friendship wouldn't really work, because you will always be thinking about her. You need to make a move, and you need to do it fast. Don't be scared, just do it! You will feel a lot better after you do.

 

[BlackJackal]

im 19 and shes 18.
the thing is i wanted to touch a thigh(especially the fact that she was wearing super short shorts) but theres always that chance she dont react cool to it and she kicks me outa her house and were no longer friends.....thats my x factor im worried about

I figured as much. Well this is a good time to break this habit. You need to get over ur x factor and start aiming for what you want from the get go. It may or may not be to late for this girl. But you have to learn to stop worrying about making a girl upset. No guts no glory.

 

[iB_Rocking]

ok i get what u guys are saying......but how would i make a first move(please give example)

because im pretty sure im gona chill with her at least once next week

 

[SandHawk]

Just chill with her, and when she sits down, sit close to her, do some talk, and start tickling her. If she doesn't become rude, up the tickling, roll her over until you're on top of her and look her in the eye and kiss.

 

[Tesl]

and she asked me if I was like that....and i basically said im a super cool friend who would NEVER EVER try anything like that and im EXTREMELY happy staying friends with her.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhahahahahaha

AFC to the MAX!!

Sounds like she was interested in you, and you should have made a move regardless. Probably too late now, you screwed up. I fully expect you are now going to spend months and months "chilling" at her place and getting more and more frustrated whilst nothing happens - Enjoy!

 

[falconslax89]

oh boy. oooohh boy. ok man. im guessing you dont really want to be "super cool friends with this girl" so unless you do you need to make a move and make it soon. the next time you guys hang out. do not wait. next time your chillin in her bed do something..put your arm around her, ask for a massage, give her one, tickle her and wrestle...you need to get PHYSICAL! like the song...get physical bom bom bom physical..just improvise. then go for the kiss. even if she rejects you shes not going to blow up and kick you out of her house lol...thats just not how it usually works. if she denies you you can always worm your way back into this pvssyfied position your in now if you want to remain buddies and maybe even work your way back up to super cool friends and go battle lex luther together. good luck homie.

 

[bukowski_merit]

The thing is we were in bed sitting next to each other for like 5 hours straight.

Even when i was your age and HORRIBLE with women - i would still at least try to make moves! They'd fail more often than not because i just came off as the most un-smooth man on the planet - but at least i tried.... All you have to do is make ANY move with confidence.... There's no "secret backdoor" technique to get her to accept your move.... But if you do it with confidence (like you've been here before) - you may still get rejected, but you will reduce your chances and will at least try!

She kinda likes to chill and do this kinda stuff with a LOT of guys, but the thing is she is a vergin(i know her best friend) and she told me herself before.

So, she's either a lier (and you giving her the benefit of the doubt is dumb) or she likes to suck d!ck and doesn't count that as sex (as most women don't count it.) Either that or you live in a town that rips the balls out of the boys in high school. - - - In either case - she's an attention wh@re and puts herself as the prize and the men as the beta.

And we got into talking about how guys contantly try to take advantage of her when she kicks it with them and once in a while she will satisfy them by making out with them once in a while but thats it.....

I promise she has at least made out with a few of their penises! She is too much the prize in her mind. She is too much a prize in YOUR mind for you to listen to her BS like this.

There's also a sub-communication going on here and it's "guys who get aggressive with me - have a shot" (in reference to the guys she's "made out" with.)

and she asked me if I was like that....and i basically said im a super cool friend who would NEVER EVER try anything like that and im EXTREMELY happy staying friends with her.

She set the frame of "im the prize, this is the way i want to be treated" then said "do you accept this frame?" - - - correct answer would have been to bust her fvcking d!ck sucking @ss! But instead you destroyed you chances with her in an instant!

Let me show you:

Woman: I like to just hang out with guys and not do anything sexual. Most guys try to take advantage of me. You're not like those guys are you?
Bukowski: I think im too much of an @sshole for you. You need a nice guy; i will hurt you. Better i leave now.

WATCH HOW QUICK SHE BACK-PEDDLES!

another example:

Woman: Once in a while i'll satisfy a guy by making out with him, but that's it.
Bukowski: You must be a horrible kisser than. I like good kissers. (give a silly disgusted look)

She will then be in position to defend herself, and her kissing ability which makes you a little more the prize.
If it works - it shouldn't be long before she's trying to kiss you to "show" she knows how to. The key would be to FIGHT her like she's a horrible monster.... This would build the tension to a high level.... In fact.... Im going to do this next time im with a new woman lol...

Should i confess or try to reach for a kiss next time we kick it?

Confessing is worse than trying the kiss. Trying the kiss is not a good idea though.

The only chance you got in situations where you have completely chopped your own balls off is JEALOUSY. Not your jealousy of course. But your attention going towards other women; becoming less interested in her. If she has a hint of attraction to you - she may get more if you do this.

Other than that - no. I have nothing for you. You have TONS to learn.

 

[iB_Rocking]

ok guys im gona take all of your advice..........were probably gona chill again next Wednesday and im REALLY going to have to man up because she is not going to expect any of that from me that you guys told me to do but whatever, like you guys said wtf is the point of just being sprung...

 

[f283000]

Bukowski posted some great advice. You basically accepted her contract (to be her friend) with your own words! It's almost impossible to break the contract. You never have to accept a woman's contract it's about what YOU WANT!

You need to forget about this girl, stop hanging out with her and read the dj bible so you can get some knowledge so you don't do such HORRIBLE things with women again.

 

[terran2k]

at this point I just say, you do what you want, which is ask her out, and I mean on a real date. She might accept, she might deny, but at least you know where you stand and if you're willing to continue.

Although, I really don't think you should do much with her at this point; she makes out with her male friends.... you'd have to deal with that eventually.

 

[NO MA'AM]

iB_Rocking,

You are down very far but not completely out. You've been given a lot of good advice here, but I suggest not turning into a sex monster when you next see her. Too dramatic a shift. In this case, you have to become sexual very gradually, or she will think you're a pervert or just weird. Five hours on her bed with no contact? Not good.

the thing is i wanted to touch a thigh(especially the fact that she was wearing super short shorts) but theres always that chance she dont react cool to it and she kicks me outa her house and were no longer friends.....thats my x factor im worried about

Why do you think she was wearing super short shorts inside the house where it's usually cooler than outside if there is Air Conditioning? In a situation like this, if you don't make a move, you deserve to be placed in the friend zone...

And we got into talking about how guys contantly try to take advantage of her when she kicks it with them and once in a while she will satisfy them by making out with them once in a while but thats it..... and she asked me if I was like that....and i basically said im a super cool friend who would NEVER EVER try anything like that and im EXTREMELY happy staying friends with her.

She was hinting to you that you should follow the lead of those guys. When she admits to complying with those actions, she is indicating she wants to make out. When she says once in a while, she is giving herself what is known as "plausible deniability" which essentially means she doesn't want to admit to being a wh*re, but enjoys acting like one at times.

Also, don't say anything like that to a girl again. It reduces you from a man to a boy, and places you in the dreaded friend-zone.

 

[runner83]

Here's some good advice: forget this girl for now...

You need a full brain reconstruction. Stick around here and learn what you have to.

5 hours in a bed with her and you didn't touch her? wtf