Went down town last night...

[RichardTheFrog]

Having money will make you more attractive to females yes, but so does being attractive, funny, confident, outgoing, charming etc. In the grand scheme of things, money you haven't earned yet versus all of the above makes you pretty much fvcking useless and insignificant, hence me saying you don't exist. I wasnt really making a joke, more of an observation.

I observe you to be an extremely low value human with zero endearing traits or qualities and I'm sure women find you quite the joke. Well they would if you managed to speak to them.

From the other night when I went out, I can recall a conversation with a bartender about real estate and she told me she was a real estate agent on the side and we started talking about the company she worked for and she was saying that it was so much different than most real estate brokers.

I didn't get the impression that she thought I was a joke.

I'm supposed to be overly concerned with what females think of me? These same females who are preoccupied with their favorite hp-hop songs?

I think they are more scared of me than anything else.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Having money will make you more attractive to females yes, but so does being attractive, funny, confident, outgoing, charming etc. In the grand scheme of things, money you haven't earned yet versus all of the above makes you pretty much fvcking useless and insignificant, hence me saying you don't exist. I wasnt really making a joke, more of an observation.

I observe you to be an extremely low value human with zero endearing traits or qualities and I'm sure women find you quite the joke. Well they would if you managed to speak to them.

For example, a girl just gave me her number on POF....

She asks "what am I looking for?"

Now the real answer might be..... I'm looking for someone to **** from time to time and who will **** me like a prostitute would and give great head, etc.

But if I say that, she will probably leave. So what am I to say? That I'm looking for a relationship? When I'm not?

Let alone that she will probably make me pass 1,000,000 stupid tests that are probably designed to make sure that I will submit to her in the long run?

 

[Serenity]

@RichardTheFrog You know, it's really difficult to help you when you go on a hard defensive every time we point out your problem.

The first step is to admit your problem. Until then you can make thousands of threads, get the same responses and go into complete denial every time. It won't take you a fraction of a step further.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

@RichardTheFrog You know, it's really difficult to help you when you go on a hard defensive every time we point out your problem.

The first step is to admit your problem. Until then you can make thousands of threads, get the same responses and go into complete denial every time. It won't take you a fraction of a step further.

You're assuming that you KNOW my "problem" and assuming that you are more experienced in the world than I am.

Anyone can claim to be a sage, but that doesn't make it true.

I could tell you my "problem" right now....

I care about money too much (more than the average person), I have little empathy, I wouldn't commit even if the opportunity presented itself, I'm misogynistic, I only want them for sex. I can see how these things would get in the way of a "healthy" relationship... but that poses the question of is a "relationship" really my goal or what am I really after in the first place.

 

[Serenity]

You're assuming that you KNOW my "problem" and assuming that you are more experienced in the world than I am.

Anyone can claim to be a sage, but that doesn't make it true.

I could tell you my "problem" right now....

I care about money too much (more than the average person), I have little empathy, I wouldn't commit even if the opportunity presented itself, I'm misogynistic, I only want them for sex. I can see how these things would get in the way of a "healthy" relationship... but that poses the question of is a "relationship" really my goal or what am I really after in the first place.

What I'm "assuming" is pretty much the same you're telling me now. If you're consciously doing this I can't really help you. You're fucked until you change your mind, which may indeed be never. Really it's up to you.

We can't tell you what you're after, but that is pretty much clear. You want only sex, but as you have discovered you're not getting any of that unless you change or pay for whores.

You don't need to commit to a relationship to get sex, but you can't get it if you're socially and emotionally incompetent (lack of empathy).

 

[RichardTheFrog]

What I'm "assuming" is pretty much the same you're telling me now. If you're consciously doing this I can't really help you. You're fucked until you change your mind, which may indeed be never. Really it's up to you.

We can't tell you what you're after, but that is pretty much clear. You want only sex, but as you have discovered you're not getting any of that unless you change or pay for whores.

You don't need to commit to a relationship to get sex, but you can't get it if you're socially and emotionally incompetent (lack of empathy).

I could get sex right now from a girl online if I'm willing to commit to a relationship with her. But how is that worth it to me?

It almost seems like prostitutes end up costing you LESS, especially in terms of mental anguish and bulls h!t.

But she did tell me that she currently has 2 **** buddies that she would stop seeing if she got into a relationship (not that I entire believe her).... so I'm wondering how those guys got it for free (no relationship). I asked her how she met and she said they started out as friends.

 

[SuckItUp]

I'm not a leader of men. I never claimed to be or wanted to be. I rarely associate with other guys. If I do, I'm usually paying them to do work. I think the "leader of men" thing is overrated.

We're not talking about intrinsic value. By that logic, everyone is the same. We're talking about SEXUAL MARKET VALUE (which I'm still not sure actually exists). In this case, making lots of money does give you a higher value.

Wouldn't these same bartenders who are "still a person just like me" have ignored me like I didn't exist if I were homeless? And, by the way, bartending is actually a very good job. They make a good amount of money... but not on the type of level that I'm trying to make. It's very hard to break into making tons of money unless you got lucky at some point along the way.

Even Mark Zuckerburg (I think he's the 3rd richest person in the world) will tell you that he mostly just got lucky. He's not even an outstanding computer programmer.

Having money can increase your sexual market value, but again it guarantees nothing.

Women are hard wired to respond to certain male qualities and leadership is a big one.

This isn't that complicated. Next time you go out observe who is doing well and look at their body language and how they relate to others.

The patterns are obvious.

Looking like a model helps, but the guys who do the best embrace rejection and they try to improve all aspects of their game.

I can hammer home enough the point of fostering a fun and jovial atmosphere around people. Women pick up on that because it taps into their emotions.

That's why to talk about fun topics and joke around and act playful with women. If you can do those things then all the money looks etc won't do you any good because women don't like guys who are boring killjoys.

 

[Serenity]

I'm wondering how those guys got it for free (no relationship). I asked her how she met and she said they started out as friends.

Yeah they probably do more than show up, fuck and then leave. She probably also enjoys their company when not having sex. Something you either don't care to or are capable of providing. It's not that hard to get one night stands or fuck buddies, but they need to at least enjoy your company. To achieve that you must at least have decent conversation skills, to be a fun guy to spend time with.

Plenty of women want sex with no strings attached, but not if the guy has the social entertainment value equivalent to a dildo. They want a little more than just something penetrating them when they fuck a man.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Yeah they probably do more than show up, fuck and then leave. She probably also enjoys their company when not having sex. Something you either don't care to or are capable of providing. It's not that hard to get one night stands or fuck buddies, but they need to at least enjoy your company. To achieve that you must at least have decent conversation skills, to be a fun guy to spend time with.

Plenty of women want sex with no strings attached, but not if the guy has the social entertainment value equivalent to a dildo. They want a little more than just something penetrating them when they fuck a man.

Yea I'm more angry, controlling, and narcissistic.

I'm definitely not the type who can chill with a blunt.

 

[Serenity]

Yea I'm more angry, controlling, and narcissistic.

I'm definitely not the type who can chill with a blunt.

Then being more relaxed and at peace is what you should work on, maybe doing some meditation would help. You don't have to constantly be in that mode, but it sure would help if you could at least relax and loosen up at when you need to. Such as when casually talking to people.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

So this girl on POF at one point is talking to me about sex.... then a little while later she's saying she won't talk to me about sex. Apparently, that's reserved for her **** buddies, but she did say she is looking for a relationship and she would leave her **** buddies when she found that. I just want to have sex honestly. All she does is sit home and watch TV and she has like 4 cats. Why the **** do I have to impress this?

 

[Serenity]

All she does is sit home and watch TV and she has like 4 cats. Why the **** do I have to impress this?

You don't. Anything beyond 1 cat is crazy, she's got 4 so you should be happy you didn't get more involved with her.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

You don't. Anything beyond 1 cat is crazy, she's got 4 so you should be happy you didn't get more involved with her.

But it's still the point of...

I'm not getting free sex.

Do you think the next girl will be any less crazy?

Point is... Other guys got it for free so I should too.

I run a business that will be making over $300,000/year within 2 years mark my words, but that's not important to her so it doesn't count. It should truly be her that is trying to impress me.

I will most likely not meet this girl, but I want to keep it going as long as possible just for the experience. I am scared to bring up sex again because she might end the conversations.

 

[Serenity]

Point is... Other guys got it for free so I should too.

That's some SJW shit right there, this is not how the world works and it will never work like that.

It should truly be her that is trying to impress me.

A good interaction shouldn't contain any trying to impress, on any side.

I am scared to bring up sex again because she might end the conversations.

That's a problem, your fear of rejection. There's a LOT of women out there, it's a numbers game. If you just do one here and one there every other month then it will take a very very long time before you score, especially if you're as inexperienced as you are.

She doesn't provide what you want? NEXT!

Watch this, all of it.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

That's some SJW shit right there, this is not how the world works and it will never work like that.

A good interaction shouldn't contain any trying to impress, on any side.

That's a problem, your fear of rejection. There's a LOT of women out there, it's a numbers game. If you just do one here and one there every other month then it will take a very very long time before you score, especially if you're as inexperienced as you are.

She doesn't provide what you want? NEXT!

Watch this, all of it.

I have about 1,000,000,000,000,000 times more life experience than you do. You are a little kid compared to me. I barely even read your posts.

Please, show me all of the "hot" girls you are(n't) getting right now due to the fact that you have very little real value.

 

[Julian]

I have about 1,000,000,000,000,000 times more life experience than you do. You are a little kid compared to me. I barely even read your posts.

Please, show me all of the "hot" girls you are(n't) getting right now due to the fact that you have very little real value.

Someone ban this retard already lol

 

[MrNiceGuy23]

In before we see this guy on the news as a serial killer with dead hookers buried in his crawlspace.

I fully support the posts declaring you to be autistic. It may not be conventional autism, but there is something mentally wrong with you. Having money only makes you high value to women who value money. While this is important to most, it certainly is not true of all women. While you claim to make good money, you aren't anywhere near the threshold that every single woman should be competing to be your sex object, especially when you say you don't want to spend money on them. $170k/year is good, don't get me wrong, but you can't go out, do anything you want, buy whatever you want, travel wherever whenever you want, etc. It's a good salary but get over yourself, you aren't a millionaire. Also, what is the point of having a lot of money and thinking it makes you high value when you aren't willing to spend it? That's like having a Ferrari in the garage and never driving it.

In my opinion you're a loser. You are very low value in pretty much all social circles. You claim superiority over others based on your life experiences (like going to jail?) when the truth of the matter is you ****ed up and life ran train on you. Going to prison doesn't make you wise or give you life experience, it makes you an idiot. It's incredibly easy to not be a criminal. If this is the first time in your life that you're not in jail / broke then congratulations, but instead of trying to boost your ego and brag you might want to take some of the advice people are offering you before you become older and even more bitter.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

In before we see this guy on the news as a serial killer with dead hookers buried in his crawlspace.

I fully support the posts declaring you to be autistic. It may not be conventional autism, but there is something mentally wrong with you. Having money only makes you high value to women who value money. While this is important to most, it certainly is not true of all women. While you claim to make good money, you aren't anywhere near the threshold that every single woman should be competing to be your sex object, especially when you say you don't want to spend money on them. $170k/year is good, don't get me wrong, but you can't go out, do anything you want, buy whatever you want, travel wherever whenever you want, etc. It's a good salary but get over yourself, you aren't a millionaire. Also, what is the point of having a lot of money and thinking it makes you high value when you aren't willing to spend it? That's like having a Ferrari in the garage and never driving it.

In my opinion you're a loser. You are very low value in pretty much all social circles. You claim superiority over others based on your life experiences (like going to jail?) when the truth of the matter is you ****ed up and life ran train on you. Going to prison doesn't make you wise or give you life experience, it makes you an idiot. It's incredibly easy to not be a criminal. If this is the first time in your life that you're not in jail / broke then congratulations, but instead of trying to boost your ego and brag you might want to take some of the advice people are offering you before you become older and even more bitter.

Babies cost money and that's why that's important. It is real value as opposed to fake value such as "having a butt" or whatever it is that makes you leader of a group of retards.

I think it is normal for a man to want to be left alone and not spend much time with other guys after a certain point.

 

[Von]

Troll... no need to write 3 threads to tell us you can't pick-up chicks on POF nor in a live-bar

You than cant say to us: you have social value, you have money... thus you better than us

If you better, why you need us in a desparate way?

You need to see à psychologist, if you work, insurance pay entirely

 

[Serenity]

I have about 1,000,000,000,000,000 times more life experience than you do.

You have lived longer, but no you don't.

You are a little kid compared to me.

So? It's not my problem you've learned less in your many years than I have in a few.

I barely even read your posts.

You won't fool me with claims. It's evident you're reading my posts. You just don't like hearing the ugly truth. Sure, go ahead and take that blue pill. I'm only serving the red pill though.

Please, show me all of the "hot" girls you are(n't) getting right now due to the fact that you have very little real value.

I don't feel the need to prove myself to you. I have a girlfriend currently, so I get free sex whenever the fuck I want. If I became single tomorrow it would not take me long to find another one.

You're just trying to insult me, I get that. It's your defensiveness triggering because I'm right. If you don't have the balls to face the truth I suggest you log off this forum, I don't tell you what you'd like to hear. I do tell you what you need to hear though.

Btw, did you watch that video? What do you think?