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The Master Disaster said:
So I met with this girl that I've been meeting for a couple weeks for a class.

We worked on this project, and when we decided it was over she wanted me to help her with this article (I am one of the editors at the school's newspaper).

Couple minutes went by, and she asked me advice about this dude who keeps asking her out. She doesn't like him or attracted to him, but she feels sorry for him and wanted me to help her figure out a way to turn him down. She kept saying that she didn't have a boyfriend, and everyone knew. "I was like how do they know?"
She replied like, "They just know." Sounds fishy... After awhile, she said, "Maybe, I'll just say I like this other guy, and it wouldn't be fair for either of us." She got really, really nervous when she said this. I smirked on the inside because she avoided eye contact. I some how think... she was talking about me.

My god, I'm an idiot. I didn't know how to slide it in that I wanted to ask her out. I should been like, "I got an idear. Let's go out," but no I just made bunch load of jokes.

What was funny is I mentioned something about a girl, and she got all serious. She looked a lil' jealous, but I didn't draw it out or anything. I just mentioned it.

Neways, I kind of convinced her to go to this workshop on Saturday. I asked her if she was going she said no. I told her I had to go (because i'm an editor), and she was like, "You know what I'll try to make it. I have a party, but if I can I'll go." Maybe I didn't convince her.

God, I hope she goes. I'm gonna ask her if she wants to get some lunch after the workshop if she goes.

I feel so damn dumb. I can't believe I didn't capitalize on it. It was such a gimme.

If she doesn't go, next time we mee I'm gonna ask her if she wants to grab something after. If I don't act now... I'm gonna miss my chance.

Dude, this girl REALLY LIKED YOU....but at least now you know. Women are the best when it comes to revealing interest in a guy "indirectly" without really saying it. The next time you see her....ASK HER OUT!!!!


Let this be a lesson to TRUST YOUR GUT AND JUST DO IT....There will be many other situations like this that will cross your way again. Take advantage of them.
 

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Yea, I'm definitely going to ask her out next time.

I just didn't want to ask her out on a Monday where she might lose interest, and it might be awkward throughout the rest of the week in class and stuff. Wednesday is better because there isn't as many awkward opportunities.

I teased/joked with her about the guy who she was going out with tonight who she didn't like at all. Not to much, but I said, "When's Prince Charming picking you up tonight?"

She just rolled her eyes and said, "Maybe I'll just tell him something came up."

We got really, really close a couple times where our faces were merely inches away from one another.

I don't know exactly how I am going to ask her out. I know she'll say yes, but I want it to be a fun way to ask her out.
 

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This is weird:

The two of you got "really,really close", to where your faces almost touched;
You didn't want to ask her out on a Monday,because she might lose interest;
You were talking to her about another guy who she"already" has a date with,but whom she says she doesn't like.

This is one of the craziest,most off-the-rocker,most confusing things I've ever read on this forum. You say that she likes you,right? Well,why is she "just talking" to you,the guy she likes,but she's dating (or is,she has a date) a guy who she doesn't like? What kind of sense does that make?

Am I in the minority here? Am I the only one to whom this doesn't make sense? Don't get me wrong man,I want you to suceed. I want you to be able to date this girl. I don't get any pleasure out of guys who try to improve themselves getting turned down when asking for dates.

But at the same time,I try to be realistic. I'm sorry man,but this is just plain awkward to me. I don't know how long you've been interested in this girl,but I'm sure it was before she accepted this date with this guy who she "doesn't like". Doesn't that seem strange to you? You,the guy she likes,who's been interested in her for a couples of weeks haven't even asked her out yet,but some guy who she "doesn't even like" gets a date with her just like that. Something just seems off about this.

I hope you do get a date with this girl,I really do. And if you do,come back here and tell us all how you pulled this one off,because I've GOT to see this.
 

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Igetit! said:
This is weird:

The two of you got "really,really close", to where your faces almost touched;
You didn't want to ask her out on a Monday,because she might lose interest;
You were talking to her about another guy who she"already" has a date with,but whom she says she doesn't like.

This is one of the craziest,most off-the-rocker,most confusing things I've ever read on this forum. You say that she likes you,right? Well,why is she "just talking" to you,the guy she likes,but she's dating (or is,she has a date) a guy who she doesn't like? What kind of sense does that make?

Am I in the minority here? Am I the only one to whom this doesn't make sense? Don't get me wrong man,I want you to suceed. I want you to be able to date this girl. I don't get any pleasure out of guys who try to improve themselves getting turned down when asking for dates.

But at the same time,I try to be realistic. I'm sorry man,but this is just plain awkward to me. I don't know how long you've been interested in this girl,but I'm sure it was before she accepted this date with this guy who she "doesn't like". Doesn't that seem strange to you? You,the guy she likes,who's been interested in her for a couples of weeks haven't even asked her out yet,but some guy who she "doesn't even like" gets a date with her just like that. Something just seems off about this.

I hope you do get a date with this girl,I really do. And if you do,come back here and tell us all how you pulled this one off,because I've GOT to see this.
Basically, there is a guy in her Spanish class who keeps asking her out, and she kept turning him down, but he continued and continued. That's what she asked me about on Friday because apparently the dude asked her out on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, but she said she was busy. Then he asked her out on Monday, and she was like "Fine!"

She explained to me that there is no interest, attraction, or anything. She just doesn't want to break his heart because he's a nice guy.

Today, she was like, "OH! There is a basketball game tonight. He can take me there; I'll have friends there. I won't even have to talk to him much."

I didn't ask her out on Monday because ... I don't know I have a feeling it would change our interaction maybe make it more awkward. But if I ask her out on Wednesday (Next time we are meeting), there is only class on Thursday before we'd go out, so it would give us less face to face time to be awkward.

I maybe wrong, but those are just my thoughts.

There is no doubt in my mind that she'll say yes. We have a really good chemistry between us. She's put every signal out there, and it feels like she's just waiting for me to ask her out. I just have to do it within this week because if I don't she'll start to get frustrated.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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The Master Disaster said:
Basically, there is a guy in her Spanish class who keeps asking her out, and she kept turning him down, but he continued and continued. That's what she asked me about on Friday because apparently the dude asked her out on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, but she said she was busy. Then he asked her out on Monday, and she was like "Fine!"
She explained to me that there is no interest, attraction, or anything. She just doesn't want to break his heart because he's a nice guy.
Oh,ok. I see. She doesn't want to break his heart. Seems to me like this guy can take care of himself. He asked her out on Friday,Saturday,and Sunday,three days in a row,three times,and got turned down all three. Yet,he was persistant,and finally got the date. He got what you want.
If being rejected three times by the same girl didn't "break his heart",I don't know what makes her think that her not going on this date with him would do it. Personally,I think that you,me,and everybody else who reads this thread can learn something from this guy. To him,rejection wasn't the end,he just persisted until he got what he wanted. He might even surprise her and generate some emotions in her on the date. Who knows.

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I didn't ask her out on Monday because ... I don't know I have a feeling it would change our interaction maybe make it more awkward. But if I ask her out on Wednesday (Next time we are meeting), there is only class on Thursday before we'd go out, so it would give us less face to face time to be awkward.
This is a problem. This is why I said that the more time that passes by,the less chance you'll ever have of dating her. Look at what you said. You said that you didn't want to ask her out because you think that things would change,and there would be some awkwardness between the two of you. And you're right. It's because you took too long to show interest in her. In fact,you still haven't shown an interest by asking her out yet.

Now here's the funny part. This guy,the one she has the date with,with him it's exactly the opposite. He let he know he was interested in her from the get-go. So him NOT SHOWING INTEREST in her all of the sudden,would make her feel awkward. You see that? If this guy were to stop showing interest towards her,she'd feel weird. You know why? Because he's been asking her out so long,and showing his interest in her for so long,that it has become normal to her. She expects it.

The longer you take,the more time that passes by,the more she gets used to you the way you are RIGHT NOW,and the way you are RIGHT NOW is a guy who talks to her every now and then without showing any romantic interest in her. I bet you a million dollars that if you could,you'd trade places with this guy right now. You're feeling nervous and uneasy about asking her out,while he's out on a date with her. Man that sucks.

But you already have a plan to ask her out on Wednesday,so hey,let's see what happens
 

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Igetit! said:
I bet you a million dollars that if you could,you'd trade places with this guy right now. You're feeling nervous and uneasy about asking her out,while he's out on a date with her. Man that sucks.

But you already have a plan to ask her out on Wednesday,so hey,let's see what happens
Umm, not really. If you think about it, technically we had a date today. We got food and went back to her house for 4 hours when none of her roommates were there... I mean ... think about it.

This girl was trying to figure out ways to avoid him while they're dating. I don't know which she did, but she said she was going to cancel or go to the basketball game with him so she didn't have to talk to him.

She said she really, really felt bad for him because he asked her on a date before, and she was eating oatmeal because she had didn't have any money, so she agreed to a free meal. She said she felt so bad because he was stuttering on the date.

Think about it. Because this dude has shown so much interest she is turned off, but because I've let that interest fluster and grow it's ready to burst.

I probably should of elaborated a little more, but today when she got out of my car she was like a little school girl. She was giggling and smiling.

There is no doubt in my mind that she has a thirst for me right now, and once I ask her out soon she's going to put on a grin and say yes without hesitation.

It's because I let this thing fester for so long that she's lusting for me. She's desperate for me to ask her out. She's throwing all the signs the book has to offer, but I'm improving my worth by not immediately giving in. By the time I ask her out, she's going to think I'm some great catch.

Rather than a desperate guy who keeps asking her out.

I bet a million dollars that guy who went on a date with her would trade everything in the world to be where I was today at her house... alone.

What would you rather do:
A. Go with on a date with her that she didn't want to be on, on a Monday night.

or

B. Get lunch and get asked to go to her house where you spend 4 hours with her laughing and joking.

Do you see my reasoning?

I agree that if I don't act soon; she'll get frustrated and bored then move on, but if I act soon she'll be mine for the taking.
 

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The Master Disaster said:
Umm, not really. If you think about it, technically we had a date today. We got food and went back to her house for 4 hours when none of her roommates were there... I mean ... think about it.
Ok,so "technically" today you had a date with her. Well,did she know it was a date? Or is this just your interpetation?
Another question: If you've already had a date with her,then why are you so concerned about things being "awkward" between the two of you. That's what you said. That's why you said you want to ask her out on Wednesday instead of on a Monday,right? Since,(according to you) you've already had a date,then getting the second date should be a breeze. Yeah,I can see being nervous and feeling timid about asking for the first date,but since you've already had the first date with her,the nervousness should be gone now. What gives?

The Master Disaster said:
Think about it. Because this dude has shown so much interest she is turned off,
You know what? This might be true,but at least he has had an official date with her,where she knows it's a date. Can you say the same thing?



The Master Disaster said:
There is no doubt in my mind that she has a thirst for me right now, and once I ask her out soon she's going to put on a grin and say yes without hesitation.
It's because I let this thing fester for so long that she's lusting for me. She's desperate for me to ask her out. She's throwing all the signs the book has to offer, but I'm improving my worth by not immediately giving in. By the time I ask her out, she's going to think I'm some great catch.
Well,I hope you're right about this. You better come back here and let us know what went down when you finally do ask her out.


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I agree that if I don't act soon; she'll get frustrated and bored then move on, but if I act soon she'll be mine for the taking.
Now this is the part I don't understand. You say if you don't act soon,you think she'll move on,but at the same time,you say that you've already had a date with her today. What do you mean by this "if you don't act soon"?
You had a date with her today,right? If you had a date,then you've already "acted" So once again I ask,did she know it was a date?

But like I said,you'll know the whole story on Wednesday.
 

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JohnChap said:
listening to your guys ***** about your problems and beat yourself up for it makes me want to throw up.

LISTEN man, be a ****ing man and EITHER ask the beauty out or accept being a friend becuase chances are, that's all you are to her(those who fail to capitalize on opportunities, must suffer the consequences)

And stop ****ing ASSUMING she likes you when in reality you really DO NOT know if she likes you.

Your filtering almost every one of her responses through the purifier of a needy, WUSS bag.

This girl seems to be telling you about her problems. Women tell friends about their problems, NOT guys they're attracted to, but maybe

I could NOT be wrong.

I think I need a bag to throw up now.
Agree with JohnChap. She is starting to use you as her emotional tampon. Next time you see her you ask her out right on the spot or cut your loss and move on to someone else.

Read your other posts. You said you were at her house for 4 hours laughing and joking. Wtf? You didn';t even make a move on her? FRIENDS ZONE!!!
 

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Yeah this is lame. You're not letting her lust grow, you're letting it simmer by acting like a fun friend. You're saying all this bull about her desire being ready to explode... wtf?
Buddy, you're afraid of rejection. You're afraid she'll say no and you won't be able to be buds with her afterwards. This is all on you, man. You should've asked her out when she told you about the other dude. Seriously, you should've made your intentions known.
Now she likely thinks you're just a friendly dude, and yeah she may like you, but you do not have balls, buddy. You're going to shock her when you ask her out, which isn't a good thing. She doesn't know you 'want' her, she thinks you're such a fun guy to hang out with. That seems to be it.

But please prove us wrong and ask her out - no, KISS her - on Wednesday.
 

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Hey Master Disaster,
What's up with this thread man? You never gave us a conclusion or let us know how things turned out with this girl. Did you ask her out or not? And if you did,well,what did she say? All the time and energy we put into our replies to this thread,and you're just going to leave us hanging like that? Tell us something man,you at least owe us that much.
 

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I still haven't asked her out. I was about to that thursday, but she mentioned she was leaving the next day to go home for Thanksgiving.

I just saw her for the first time yesterday where we met in the library. We laughed and got really close, but I didn't pull the trigger mainly because our big presentation and stuff were do the next day, so I figured it might not be the best time. Maybe I should of asked her.

I saw her again today in class where we presented. She texted me before class saying "dress up!" And when she saw me today, she had this big grin and looked me over. I wore this really nice blue button shirt, and I got complements all day from women and even men, but I didn't ask her out.

I posted another thread because I'm 100% going to ask her out on Thursday. If she says no, the class is over, and I'll probably never see her again. But if if she says yes, it won't interfere with our presentation or anything.

I posted another thread (http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=154492) on how I should ask her out because we are already so close, and I really want to ask her out in a fun way because we are already close. I want to be different because she's not like the other women I've asked out. We're already good friends, but I don't think that window for asking her out has passed. If anything, the thanksgiving break has opened the window.
 

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Igetit! said:
Hey Master Disaster,
What's up with this thread man? You never gave us a conclusion or let us know how things turned out with this girl. Did you ask her out or not? And if you did,well,what did she say? All the time and energy we put into our replies to this thread,and you're just going to leave us hanging like that? Tell us something man,you at least owe us that much.
Yeah, I'm dying to know too :(
 

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I'll ask her out on Thursday. I won't let you guys down.

I can't believe I have put it off to now.

We've gone out to lunch.
I've been to her apartment.
She texts me.
She insisted that we edit everything together, which meant hours and hours in the library just her and I laughing. We found out we were the only group to actually do this. Most of them divided it up.

I need to find out a way that I can ask her out and keep my fun, unique personality I got going on with her.

Whatever I do, I want her to blush and grin from it.
 

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Yeah...I still haven't asked my girl from the library out yet. I feel like such a wuss. I even have her phone number.

I'll call her tomorrow.
 

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The Master Disaster said:
So I met with this girl that I've been meeting for a couple weeks for a class.

We worked on this project, and when we decided it was over she wanted me to help her with this article (I am one of the editors at the school's newspaper).

Couple minutes went by, and she asked me advice about this dude who keeps asking her out. She doesn't like him or attracted to him, but she feels sorry for him and wanted me to help her figure out a way to turn him down. She kept saying that she didn't have a boyfriend, and everyone knew. "I was like how do they know?"

She replied like, "They just know." Sounds fishy... After awhile, she said, "Maybe, I'll just say I like this other guy, and it wouldn't be fair for either of us." She got really, really nervous when she said this. I smirked on the inside because she avoided eye contact. I some how think... she was talking about me.

My god, I'm an idiot. I didn't know how to slide it in that I wanted to ask her out. I should been like, "I got an idear. Let's go out," but no I just made bunch load of jokes.

What was funny is I mentioned something about a girl, and she got all serious. She looked a lil' jealous, but I didn't draw it out or anything. I just mentioned it.

Neways, I kind of convinced her to go to this workshop on Saturday. I asked her if she was going she said no. I told her I had to go (because i'm an editor), and she was like, "You know what I'll try to make it. I have a party, but if I can I'll go." Maybe I didn't convince her.

God, I hope she goes. I'm gonna ask her if she wants to get some lunch after the workshop if she goes.

I feel so damn dumb. I can't believe I didn't capitalize on it. It was such a gimme.

If she doesn't go, next time we mee I'm gonna ask her if she wants to grab something after. If I don't act now... I'm gonna miss my chance.
Stop kicking yourself about this. This isn't a "really easy opportunity that you missed." When you have good, honest, and open communication, dating is super easy. But basically, because you still seem to be trying to hide your sexual feelings, this is going to be a very difficult situation for you.

There's no use in saying that it is actually really easy. For your communication style, it isn't. Until you feel comfortable calling her sexy just as a comment, and telling her what it is about her personality that makes her sexy, you're going to be doing a rain dance trying to get women in your life. You're going to be dancing in circles rather than just turning on the faucet.

When you're ready to just have an honest chat with her about how you feel, you'll find that dating is extremely easy. But communication, as always, is really really hard, and honesty even more so.

No need to kick yourself. You are trying to do something that is hard, but once you master communication, is easy. In the meantime, it's normal to be upset with yourself. But forgiving yourself is the first step to success. Without that, you may want to pursue something else.

Izza
 

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My name is Igetit!,but I don't get this.

What is taking so long??? What's going on here? Why does it take you so long to ask this girl out? Man,when I saw that other thread you started,even before I looked at it,I had a feeling that it was about this same girl. Well,this is what happens when you wait too long. You sike yourself out. That exactly why we have the three second rule. This is ridiculous. And to show you how ridiculous this is,this girl has already been out on a date with another guy while you've been shaking and trembling waiting for the "right time" to ask for a date. I'd rather just ask her out and have her say no than to go through all this nervousness,stress,and playing out different scenarios in my mind day after day,week after week,and if you keep waiting,month after month.

Now do you believe me when I said waiting too long is a mistake?

The Master Disaster said:
Yea,I'm definately going to ask her out next time.
Do you remember writing this? This quote of yours is from 2 weeks ago.

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I'll ask her out on Thursday. I won't let you guys down.
This one is from an hour ago.

Despite your procrastinating,I'm still pulling for you,I still want you to succeed.
I hope you do get some good responses to your other thread about fun ways to ask her out. It's just that you've waited so long,I don't think that any type of fun way of asking her out will help. Prove me wrong man. I want to be wrong about this one.
 

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I did some skimming here, and I didnt read closely everything that was said - but I just have one general comment.

Ive met up with girls Ive been interested in to do schoolwork before. The more you delay in giving the relationship a sexual dynamic, one in which she actually feels attraction to you as more than just a study partner, the more difficult its going to be.

Joke around with her. Tease her. Kino. Tickling. Eventually move in for the kiss

One should always begin the dating process QUICKLY - lest you fall into the friend zone and make it much harder for yourself.
 

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Hopefully I'm wrong, but it sounds like you have been firmly placed in the friendzone. You waited too long IMO....yeah the guy that stuttered on the date and aked her repeatedly showed his romantic interest, and that he has the balls to take chances. Who knows, after two weeks, that is more than enough time for a girl to change her mind about a guy. I really think you should have acted much sooner. She has texted you, so you have her number. Call her and ask her out..NOW! This trying to find a really fun way of asking her out is just silly bull****. Do not wait until thursday, chances are something could come up and ruin your opportunity. The only perfect moment your going to get to ask this girl out is right now, in the moment. Grab your balls, pick up the phone and do it! Good luck, cause right now it sounds like our in the friendzone, and you need to take immediate action to get out before it's too late. Visual it going well usually leads to it going well...now go call her
 
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