Weigh in: V-card, Amsterdam trip, and escorts..

[jdawgmcb]

Alright, here's the thing....i have virtually no sexual confidence. Throughout high school I was always regarded as the friend, ditched, stood up, or plain ignored by women.

Sure, I had a lot of girls that i was a "friend" too...but when it came to sexual time, they wanted nothing to do with it.

I haven't even so much as kissed a girl in over 4 years (last time was 8th grade, now im graduated)

I am going to be going on a trip to amsterdam in a few months and I was wondering what the PUA community's thought was on LEGAL escort services that are offered in the Netherlands.

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*EVERY SINGLE ONE of my guy friends always tells me i need to "loosen up and get laid"...and that "Oh, dude...you just need a hook up"

Money is no issue here, I have plenty of money. Girls see the fact that I have money and use it to exploit me for small little favors (at least the high school girls did). ((Granted, I don't have a ferrari or anything, but i'm very comfortable...and all of my school is 100% paid for by my parents, so i have a lot of extra cash))

I really don't want to enter college as a virgin.. (Nevermind someone who's only made out with a girl a few times).be it, i still have one more year left at community college before i transfer to university, but i still don't want zero experience.

I'm going to a-dam with 2 other guy friends, and I was wondering what you guys seriously thought about this.

I really want it to happen soon - and i'm just sick and tired of being shut down.

EDIT: The trip to amsterdam is already planned. This is not a "hypothetical" I really am going there...just havent made up my mind about visiting the RLD.

 

[romangod]

I'm going to a-dam with 2 other guy friends, and I was wondering what you guys seriously thought about this.

I really want it to happen soon - and i'm just sick and tired of being shut down.

EDIT: The trip to amsterdam is already planned. This is not a "hypothetical" I really am going there...just havent made up my mind about visiting the RLD.

I say go for it. The women are professionals and they'll understand your situation.

You will be visiting the RLD. How can you not? It's one of the tourist spots you have to see even if you're not partaking of the services. I've been to Amsterdam 3 times and have had a blast every time. It's been a few years but I'm guessing it's still just as much fun.

Good luck and go for it!

Cheers!

 

[Bible_Belt]

To each his own, but fwiw I think hash & shrooms are WAY more fun than hookers.

 

[BongDuy]

give shrooms, hash, and the escorts a chance. maybe you can talk to the escorts and get them to teach you some lessons on cunnilings and the female anatomy

 

[Violent V]

Its your choice, but i urge you not to do it.

I paid two hookers to lay me in two different E European cities. First time i walked out in complete regret. A year later i was dissapointed in myself. It backfired, and shattered my confidence in myself...

You will learn nothing from this apart from the fact that,
a)to them its all a business and you are nothing but a desperate touritst customer with cash, and
b) you either blowed your load in a matter of minutes after which she tells you to dress and leave, or that you couldn't blow at all in the allocated 30 mins you've paid for as hard as you tried.

I will tell you exactly how it works. You go upto the girl who has caught your eye at the bar or in front of her room (depending on where you are), they tell you a price, you agree and they lead you in. They close the door, and ask for the cash. Then they ask you go in the bathroom, undress and have a shower whilst they count the cash and then make the bed.

They ask you lie down while they put your condomn on. They start giving you a tired, robotic bj, and then when your in the slightest hard, go cowgirl. Then they get on all fours. Then they lie on their backs and watch you fcuk. This happened both times. Its like a routine.

If you blow, they tell you to have a shower if you want, get dressed in the other room and leave. If you don't blow before the clock strikes 30 mins, they tell you to stop, have a shower if you want, get dressed in the other room and leave. They then get ready for their next customer.

I tried talking to them the second time round. She was from a middle class family. Glamorous looking. Educated, intelligent. She said its a well paid job, thats why all the the girls do it. Their husbands are all working class builders or something.

Both times it backfired on me. I thought i was finally getting laid for the first time in ages. But as soon as she started sucking, I realised how desperate i had become. You walk out feeling unattractive and worthless.

Because you have not conquered anything, you have not worked for the fcuk. The 'sex' is rudderless and forgetable. This is the sort of place filthy old men go, not young, aspiring and ambitious guys.

Of ALL the women you will shag in your life, you will never ever forget the person you lost it to. Save your v-card for someone who you want to always remember and never regret. Don't pay to lose it.

I lost it to a beautiful liar who told me she was a virgin too. I don't remember the sex, or her beauty, I can only remember her lie.

V

 

[jdawgmcb]

Anyone else who has done this to lose their v-card have any advice?

Perhaps it will be easy to find a hook up in amsterdam (thats not an escort service) as well.

Im there for a whopping 3 weeks, so its gonna be some fun times

 

[Captain Harlock]

forget the shrooms, you can't buy them in shops anymore because the government is stupid. Of course you can still get them but I'd go straight for acid if I had to choose.

that aside, I really don't think it's going to help your confidence. You'll just feel like a dirty John. You need to work on your inner game dude. Having sex isn't going to solve that.

 

[jdawgmcb]

I found a service that does more than just the plain "escort" deal.

Its sort of like a "virgin service" if you will...they know what to expect, and also teach you some pointers (so you're better the next time, and not a complete idiot)

It's quite expensive, but i think if the experience is anything like they said, it would be worth it.

I would however, like to meet a girl that would be interested in the moves i make (i have tried to kiss/more than kiss quite a few times...not a ton, but more than three...its hard to try again when you get shut down and LJBF'd on the spot after trying to make a move)

Also - if there was anything embarassing about the first time - i wouldn't have to worry about the girl spreading the embarrassing tale (and i know stuff like that has happened).

However.... it would be something i was "paying" for and it woudn't be the same as making it on my own.

I am going to keep avidly trying until the trip, and even during most of the trip. I'm 18 now and thats the age to get into most of the clubs.

Need more people to weigh in: Have you used these services before, also what was the experience for you like? Did it HELP your confidence when trying to use pick up on women at home, or did it damage it completely? I read what ViolentV said...but that sounds like a little different service that the one i would be buying.

I wont list the name of the site that does this here, but i can PM it to anyone who wants it (Unless someone tells me its okay to post the link here, i just dont want to break any forum rules)

 

[jdawgmcb]

anyone else here want to comment?

 

[Killer_Demo]

wouldnt u feel alot better about urself if u got laid on ur own with ur own game/attraction instead of forking over couple of bucks?

 

[pua1989]

who cares the mans horny go bone some hot stripper. i constantly keep reading on here about guys saying "they showed me what to do...." or "they were really nice about it....." thats bs. dont hold back, rail the shít outta her. i know my first time i was the same, albeit not with a stripper but kind of timid, but if you go in there and throw her on the bed act like its not your first time and just rail youll have a good memory


EDIT: the poster below me is 100% right

 

[shaunuk]

Mate, why don't you go to Amsterdam and try to pull a girl? Then at the end of the vacation, if you haven't gotten laid, go get a prozzy

 

[blackomen]

I've got mixed feelings but if the following sound like you, you might benefit:

- You've got sexual issues (you desire sex but feel intimidated in sexual situations.)

- You're a virgin or haven't had sex for so long it's creating a mental block (get out of this vicious cycle.)

Basically, if you're just simply horny and too lazy to go and approach a girl, forget it.. it'll ruin your inner game set a bad example. But if you've got deeper issues stemming from a prolonged lack of intimacy, you will benefit.. just don't think too much and enjoy the experience.

Btw, Dutch women as so hot so it's definitely a waste if you don't approach at least several of them on the street even if you still end up paying for it in the red light district.

 

[hover411]

don't lose it to a hooker.

losing the v-card is not a magic pill to make you better with the ladies.

stop playing with yourself, buy "Blueprint Decoded" by RSD and work on your inner game.

if anything paying to lose your v-card will only sink you deeper into your problem with ladies, and it is a regret you can never take back.

 

[nismo-4]

This is like the 5th thread where a person is threatening to resort to an escort service to get laid or lose the v-card.

Seriously, losing it to a hooker/escort is not good. Your confidence will sink in the long run.

You're rich (or pseudo-rich in your case) and that does attract women. but watch out for golddiggers.

If you earn the p*ssy with your charm, you'll save a lot of money and feel like a king!