Weed ruined my game

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I went and hung out with this girl last night. I haven't gotten this kiss yet but there has been lots of kino and IOI's on her part.

Anyways, we're just hanging out having a good time, then we smoked. My game dissolved from there. We just sat on the couch watching Fight Club, barely talking. I felt like such an idiot and as soon as I was good enough drive, I was out of there.

Is there any way to recover from that? Or did I make myself out to be a tool?
 

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you were smoking weed and watching fight club. She won't care if you come on again with good game it was just a little bit of a game gap stop overanalysing everything
 

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You were both high and watching a movie...

I think that you'll recover just fine.

When I did smoke weed, I didn't really say too much while I was high. Nothing at all while a movie was on or the group was watching TV. When I did talk, it was to RANT. Not that I wanted to, but I just couldn't help myself.

I guess what I'm saying is you are better off being quiet when high then talking and saying something dumb. Just be real talkative when you aren't high, and everything balances out good.
 

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Dont smoke dank unless you know you can handle your ****, or smoke less D4nk.
 

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Smoking weed really makes it difficult for you to have a conversation with just about anyone, you oft forget things you've already mentioned which makes you tend to repeat subjects already talked about, you can't organize your words and you say things you usually don't. If there is any substance you want to be under the influence of around women, it is alcohol...or you could make her take E.
 

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theunflushables said:
I went and hung out with this girl last night. I haven't gotten this kiss yet but there has been lots of kino and IOI's on her part.

Anyways, we're just hanging out having a good time, then we smoked. My game dissolved from there. We just sat on the couch watching Fight Club, barely talking. I felt like such an idiot and as soon as I was good enough drive, I was out of there.
This is that famous side-effect of marijuana - paranoia. You thought too much into it; I mean don't forget, she was high too. She might have been thinking the same thing, or listening to Bob Marley in her head, or thinking about how awesome it would be to nail you on the couch.

The thing is if you can't smoke and keep your cool, don't smoke or learn how. A lot of my friends can't go out after we smoke and run sets, but I can. But I'm not you're typical pot-head, I get creative, excited, motivated, talkitive, and friendly, I never worry about people knowing I'm high or get paranoid. But that's me.

I guess it's been said thousands of times, intoxicants affect people differently.
 

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Weed puts you in your head. Period. been a pothead for many years. Now everytime I smoke I can feel myself getting stuck in my head. It also makes me slightly depressed.

The last girl I had over brought over a big sack of weed and we ended up sitting there like zombies watching movies. So I started talking to her about smoking and she admitted that it makes her paranoid, stuck in her head, and hella horny. But she gets so paranoid that she stops getting horny...then she tells me she has to be with a guy she really feels comfortable with to have sex while she's high, then she realises she's talking about sex and gets uncomfortable and makes an excuse and leaves. Damn weed! Dammit!
 

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Yeah, I realized something, I normally smoke with my friends or with people I am in a relationship with. So yeah, I'm going to go with paranoia.
 

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Or you were just too stoned to really come up with stuff to say. It's happen to me. I get too baked I don't really wanna talk. If I'm stoned and feelin good. I'm in a happy/laughter mood. Making girls laugh and talk about whatever.
 

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theunflushables said:
Is there any way to recover from that? Or did I make myself out to be a tool?
There is. I had a similar experience once. Weed completely ****ed up my game. One minute I was alive, the next, it was like my batteries had run out.
luckily I there was weed inlvoved so ...I blamed it on the drug!

I didn't need to tell her. She understood. Your friend will understand aswell. Just make sure you don't bring it up. If you act like it never happend, things will be okay between you two.

Hope that helps.
 

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my last reply reminded me of a rule I like to follow:

'If you act like it never happened, then it ceases to exist.'

It's amazing how paying absolutly no attention to something or someone can make the subject go away.

Example:

scene 1:
A guy tries to approach a woman, the woman doesn't want guy talking to her so she ignores him. What happens? The guy leaves; he ceases to exist, figurativily speaking ofcourse.

scene 2:
A guy tries to approach a girl, the girl acts friendly, guy continues the conversation; he remains in existance.

The same rule applies to bad experiences; thoughts, beliefs, etc. If we continue to think about them; if we continue to give them life; then it never goes away. But if we pay it no mind at all, poof, it disappears.

Hope that helps.
 

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I enjoy the ganja, but I'm not a stoner...

...most of my stoner friends ended up owing me money, and I'd never, ever get serious with a hippie chick. It's not that drugs kill your motivation and make you irresponsible (I've had some enlightening experiences on psychedelics), but I have yet to see a habitual user that isn't a burnout.
 
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theunflushables said:
My game dissolved from there.
HAH! Weed lowers your Testosterone as well as your game. The three that are so popular and are like pulling teeth to get dudes off of, but said dudes would be better off without are Drugs, Alcohol(also lowers T), and masturbation(as does this one). Eliminate these.
 

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JohnChap, I like the thought, but the logic is kind of flawed. It's like saying "Oh this lump on my testicles will go away if I ignore." Next thing you know, you're dead.

I know what you mean though. lol

As for my situation, yeah it was just paranoia. I talked to her today (in general, not about feeling like I fvcked up) and everything is back on track.
 

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Yeah weed totally ruins my game also. I used to be a huge stoner (still kind of am, but slowing down. Smoking regularly is never good haha). I love its effects, but they are far from social.

Even if I have a huge session the next day I'm not as sharp on my game, =\

anyone else notice this?
 

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Dont do it anymore. She didnt notice, trust me. Remember she was stoned too.
 

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It's recoverable, no damage done. Avoid weed, if you're not used to it.

Personally, I do a lot of things better while high. But I'm a regular smoker and I know how to control my mind while under the influence. Mary jane takes most people's minds on an uncontrollable ride. It can be fun to just sit back and go wherever your mind takes you.

But you can also learn to direct your mind. You'll be amazed at how sometimes you pickup on all kind of nuances and subtleties that you tend to gloss over when in a normal state of mind.
 

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Some people swear that it helps their game and they seem to be getting some decent success. The last time I was stoned and tried gaming a stripper I thought I was being pimp but I didn't even get the number.
 

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Weed affects people differently, this is a fact.

It affects teenagers new to the drug(less than 1 year), it affects introverts and extroverts differently, it affects habitual smokers differently, and I would argue them more negatively because of the social isolative effect and strength of reinforced habits(over 1 gram/day for years).

Sooner or later the negatives will outweight the positives in my opinion.

I have had some great times shooting the ****, playing games, exploring, "enhancing" outdoor activities and sports, with my best friends in the world, all the while weed being a central theme. Before parties, after parties, before pickin up at the bar, after you have sex with your girl, before/after working out, etc.

After all that, I moved away and now I smoke mostly by myself, have realized I have a serious problem with it, that it takes me out of my natural fun and relaxed state into overanalyzing and increased nervousness of making the move.

It affects that all important element of flow and fluidity when escalating and making the girl fall for you, and genuinely interacting on an emotional level(which can help with ONS's, #'s closes, besides just relationships).

You miss the subtle clues, the windows of opportunity. Because THC is fat soluble and takes months to completely clear out of a heavy smoker's system, those blunts on monday tuesday and wednesday can still make you feel introverted, shy, or less "ballsy" when it's time to go out on the weekend.

Yes, I have picked up a few girls while high(but def. had to get a few drinks in after the smoke), yes, many will brag about it and seem to enjoy it, but for me, it is nothing short of a game killer.

I have been trying to stop all day everyday smoking, and haven't done it like that in weeks. Then I skipped one week at a time, toking up on weekends. Now I am trying to stop that, entirely. It's really tough and a discussion for another board like the uncommon knowledge forums(90% of the posts are about people trying to quit weed addiction).

Bottom line, weed cramps your game, and the weekend I just had compared to a weekend where I smoked all day and then went out was like night and day, and gave me strength to stop smoking this plant to enjoy the positive benefits of being clean, for a longer period of time.

Stoners, legalizers, don't get pissed, been there done that. But there is such a thing as becoming a burnout and it does have distinct negative effects on sociability for most people.

Choose your own destiny! And stay with your choice, as I also struggle to go from "cutting back" to "cutting out". Sorry for the rant, hope someone learns something from my experiences and it was also a bit therapeutic.;)
 
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