We live in ironic times

[f283000]

Don't worry about it brothers. Once the dollar collapses and we go on the 2nd great depression (which will be far worse than the first) women will start looking for men to take care of them again and give them protection.

Economic prosperity is a breeding ground for low quality women.

 

[JdelaSilviera]

Seriously, what's the ironic part? The thread is poorly written garbage with a (kind of) valid point that we all already know.

It´s seems you were the only one failing to grasp... sorry about that.
And your atittude, is completly ridiculous... who cares if the thread is poorly written, I´m not even english, so I just try to do my best.

This forum is supposed to help each other, most things here are constantly repeated, and if you already knew the point, and thought about it, great.... it means you already know something....
Recent threads on sosuave, show that many members don´t even know the basics, and I´m not claiming to be any specialist..

 

[JdelaSilviera]

I dont know whats funnier, the thread, or the fact that people agree with it.

I'm not saying that what he is saying is wrong, i'm just confused as to what the **** he is actually talking about. You have to make a point to be a wrong, there is not even a point made.

Are you saying that by not approaching average women we will improve something/anything?

Who would want to do that? What effect would that have? What are you talking about? Are you drunk?

Raise the bar? The bar isn't a conscious thing, its completely controlled by our biological instincts. You need to do the gene pool a favour and not reproduce, that is the only positive outcome i can see for you.

Ease once again you aren´t able to understand a thing... but hey, it´s not your fault... Coupled with your bitterness, you have such a low IQ...

It´s obvious isn´t it? What are sosuave members doing to attract more women? They are improving themselves, you see many threads on self improvement here. If Dj´s on the forum were getting laid like rockstars, why would they want to improve? Of course there other motivations beside women to improve, but the effort wouldn´t be the same.

Contrary to what is said, many women approach guys, but you never see (or very rarely), them approaching average ones... they just approach high quality guys (even if far above their level), making others that are not so great to improve themselves.

Of course only sosuavers doing this won´t have a global effect (someone has to start it) , but it´s ironic that in the days that men work harder on themselves, that they still go for women that have simply nothing to offer. These women will continue to be fatty and crappy, because they know they can get men anytime they want...
If we want the general level of women to go up, one shouldn´t treat average quality girls as special, since they aren´t. There are too many people deluded out there.

For last raising the bar is not biological controlled.... low quality guys go for low quality women, because they know consciously they can´t get better.... their genes tell them to fvck the hottest ones..
We should just be as picky as women are.

Merry Christmas, and start being less idiotic in 2011...

 

[European-DJ]

Great post!

This is something everyguy should tell his friends, who should tell their friends and so on.. Unfortunatly guys are becoming such loosers, who are just taking what they can - easily - get..

 

[teacha]

ease is right, you are talking shit.

there will always be guys approaching the fatty/crappy ones because beauty is subjective...not everyone is attracted to those skinny models seen on magazines, tv etc just like you are not attracted to fatty women.

 

[Ease]

The biological value of women will always be much higher than men.

Men produce the sperm, women produce the eggs. 1 man can produce a million sperm every day. Women = children, they are fertile for 30 years and they control who is a dad and who isn't.

I'm not going to sit and explain the science behind this to you, or any unfortunate moron that applauds your nonsense talk.

I'll summarize why you have no idea of what you are talking about with this:

Untill men can produce eggs and become pregnant, women will be the chosers and have the higher value in society.

Instead of absolute false thinking, how about you talk something real? Like raising your own market value in society by raising your alphaness. Instead of garbage like 'stop chasing low quality women'.

 

[JdelaSilviera]

ease is right, you are talking shit.

there will always be guys approaching the fatty/crappy ones because beauty is subjective...not everyone is attracted to those skinny models seen on magazines, tv etc just like you are not attracted to fatty women.

You may find 1 in a milion, that prefers a fat chick to Carmen Electra. Of course everyone isn´t attracted to the same, and tastes differ. But there is a general type that most men find attractive.

You could also say that many women differ in their preferences, and some like skinny shy guys...but most don´t.

What most men prefer is hardwired through thousands of years of evolution.
Men these days will deliberatly fvck ugly women to whom they are not attracted, just because they are a bit easier (many times they aren´t), and because there is a general lack of confidence..

The consequence is that women have understood that they can get basicaly any men they want. So they just go for males that are more valuable then them, and without any making effor to get better.

Self improvement is something you do to get a better self, it´s hard to change, so you need strong motivations. "Men´s love is life, and women´s life is love". Men have a thousands of reasons to get better, with women that´s not so true, because they live for love and drama. If they can get what they want, why would they make an effort to improve? To change their personality? To be prettier or hotter?
That´s why I gave the example of the Phd that is rejected by a simple waitress..

Of course you can have a relationship with an average looking girl, that is smart, or has a nice personality. But why would you approach an average looking girl, giving her the impression she is a queen, and without making her work a bit?
Why would you approach a women to whom you are not attracted to? Average looking women are not attractive! They are average...
Unless they have other interests, women will only go for men that find attractive, men will go for women that are interested in them. This is how they´ve gained so much power

Hope I´m clear now. Merry xmas

 

[JdelaSilviera]

The biological value of women will always be much higher than men.

Men produce the sperm, women produce the eggs. 1 man can produce a million sperm every day. Women = children, they are fertile for 30 years and they control who is a dad and who isn't.

I'm not going to sit and explain the science behind this to you, or any unfortunate moron that applauds your nonsense talk.

I'll summarize why you have no idea of what you are talking about with this:

Untill men can produce eggs and become pregnant, women will be the chosers and have the higher value in society.

Instead of absolute false thinking, how about you talk something real? Like raising your own market value in society by raising your alphaness. Instead of garbage like 'stop chasing low quality women'.

Oh, "so stop chasing low quality women" is a bad advice?" Right

First, just because lions and monkeys, want to **** everything they see it doesn´t mean our evolved species should do the same. You have a little more advanced brain than these animals, and you shouldn´t also be a slave of evolution or it´s impulses.
And again, what you do is your choice, but attraction isn´t. I may find it fine, for a DJ to approach once in a while average girls to develop his skills.... but for fvck or relationhship, it´s just ridiculous. It´s only because he thinks he can´t do better... If she doesn´t attract you don´t go for her...

I don´t see why men can´t also be the chosers (it takes two to dance, and I´ve personally rejected many women and would like to see more guys doing the same), even if pregancy is a women´s job. Of course they have the right to chose who they will fvck, but we shouldn´t be their boy toys (that´s not alpha in your terms), and they should be able to chose but only between guys that are near their level.

Thinking that a fatty waitress, has more value than a good looking PhD, just because she will carry the child is ridiculous, and an completly and uterly feminine way of seeing things. If they want the best it´s better they work for it...

Also what i´ve said is just that men should be picky, it will make our lives easier, women don´t make our lives easy, and the easier we become for them the more abundance they have and the more difficult they become... this is also written in the book of pook, and you wouldn´t challenge this idea if it were another person writting it in a better english.

If you go to a college course, where women are abundant and men are scarce, you will see men having the power, with lot´s of options to chose. The environment also matters a lot... so we should change it by becoming more of a challenge.

At last, you can keep fvcking everygirl who gives you that chance, that´s what most have been doing it through history, if you think that´s manly it isn´t, and look to where it brought us....

 

[pipe007]

It just seems to me that the OP or the people agreeing with this post do so out of creating an EXCUSE for their present or past failings...

its easy to blame it on tHEm if we have trouble attracting them or keeping them in the first place due to our lack of skill or adaptability to the situation at hand...

need help? get the SKILL, adapt!!! and move on....
times have change which require change in ourselves as well.

 

[teacha]

You may find 1 in a milion, that prefers a fat chick to Carmen Electra. Of course everyone isn´t attracted to the same, and tastes differ. But there is a general type that most men find attractive.

You could also say that many women differ in their preferences, and some like skinny shy guys...but most don´t.

What most men prefer is hardwired through thousands of years of evolution.
Men these days will deliberatly fvck ugly women to whom they are not attracted, just because they are a bit easier (many times they aren´t), and because there is a general lack of confidence..

LOL, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about there.

wasn't it only in the 1950's when nearly all men around the world fantasized about Marilyn Monroe and actually prefered fully bosomed women or even the time before that? Nowadays, most men prefer the supermodel type or the megan fox type woman (i.e thin women) all because of societal conditioning.

You'll find in today's world that some men are actually afraid to go for women they like for fear of being ridiculed by society and some men date women they are not attracted to just to impress friends...funny world we live in. This is the reason i don't pay attention to the rating system for women because i know beauty is subjective and i won't let anyone define that for me (like Pook said, YOU DEFINE YOUR OWN LIFE).

Merry Christmas.

 

[EA Gold]

women will be the chosers and have the higher value in society.

This is very sad. Don't listen to this!

The only reason why women have power is because we allow them to have it. The root of it started in 1920 with womens liberation which was a Rockefeller agenda to tax women, manipulate females and to destroy the family.

Before this it was man who made the decisions under his rules the way it should be. But if we allow this continue not only are you the loser but she will be a loser not having you, your family and the entire world if we let the elite to continue manipulate us.

 

[omkara]

The biological value of women will always be much higher than men.

This doesn't really expain why female infanticide has been practiced up until recently in China and India. In those cultures, it has been imperative for every family to have a SON. And it's not just because of the dowry. It goes much deeper than that. If females are more valuable then why would people consider them a burden or kill them at birth?

 

[JdelaSilviera]

This doesn't really expain why female infanticide has been practiced up until recently in China and India. In those cultures, it has been imperative for every family to have a SON. And it's not just because of the dowry. It goes much deeper than that. If females are more valuable then why would people consider them a burden or kill them at birth?

He tries to make a valid point about evolutionary biology, but what he gives us is a twicelly falacious argument. Just because theoretically women are the chosers it doesn´t follow that men shouldn´t be picky also. And of course what you say, the environment counts a lot.