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Long time ago, when pron was hard to find on the internet, I found a site where you could download pron DVDs. So brought some to work and we watched with coworkers during the launch hour.
 

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Just my perspective from the opposing side of this. If I see anyone in my teams display this behavior on the job, I consider them dead weight and on their way out.
Fair enough. However, in this case I'm not a dead-weight since I have out performed everyone else on the team most of the past months, and have consistently pulled at or above the metrix goals like 90% of the time. (ie in the past year working there there only two months I underperformed, and one of those months was near a borderline below their metrix goals). Not to say that I'm too big to fail. If I cuss at someone or hang-up the phone, then that would be an easy exit out of there, even if I'm the top producer!


HoneyHitter said:
Too many young guys do this. I never let them know that I know. Walking around is not the only way we find out. I’m not your parent, stick to your purpose. You agreed to do the job.
What? Other people do that? Not in my office. Most people there are Indians, Arabic, or have informal social cliques around. I'm more of the "outsider" that may do these types of things. To charactertize, "many young guys" do this, sounds like an alternate parallel universe to the type of call center office set-up I'm at. For example, immigrants from other countries do not behave like that. It's like 95% immigrants working around me. Their culture does not lend itself to consuming any alcohol, much lest to doing anything wierd or naughty with a smartphone like that.

This is why I read this post, and what you are describing is 100%, not what I'm doing or who I'm around. You don't sound like you just mainly deal with immigrant workers with a loathesome telemarketing operation.

HoneyHitter said:
Taking proper breaks is more effective when it comes to destressing.
Of course I always take proper breaks. Again, I'm the only guy that probably watches streaming youtube/other videos on their breaks. Other people either don't take breaks, watch the main TV if they watch anything or talk to other people or do something else. I have two 8 inch Tablets, and one like 10 inch Tablet that I bring with me and watch content. My behaviour is very different to other people who are there.

It's hard to say if I'm fed up with the job itself, or if I feel excuded or like an outsider with respect to the social dynamics within the office. Maybe if I had a close female friend then I wouldn't be as escapist like that. So I think it is more reactionary (ie especially if it's a study-ASMR video). I think the functional issues of using a device under the keyboard, is more aimed at the social dynamics.

It's not to say that every day is like that. Sometimes I might have a connection with someone and there might be an nice time withn the office (ie especially if it's over zoom and it's with a lady working in a statellite office in another nearby town).

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If you’re bored on the job, you are lacking creativity. Even the worst job can be made into an interesting experience if you’re open to a more creative approach. You can make it feel “high-stakes” without resorting to laziness.
I think I am creative. I apply office decor every third day I come to the office.
 

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I've been known to view NSFW material on break.

Never would I do anything like that in the office space.
I definitely look at NSFW movies sometimes during a break at the cafeteria. Horror movies are 100% NSFW, especially if they are slasher or gorey movies. (ie like The Thing, 1982)
 

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I definitely look at NSFW movies sometimes during a break at the cafeteria. Horror movies are 100% NSFW, especially if they are slasher or gorey movies. (ie like The Thing, 1982)
I don't like horror.

My preferred NSFW is X-rated.

I've been known to view porn on break (and sometimes I pick the back corner seat on the bus so I can view porn)
 

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Hi Honeyhitter,
"If you’re bored on the job, you are lacking creativity. Even the worst job can be made into an interesting experience if you’re open to a more creative approach. You can make it feel “high-stakes” without resorting to laziness."Who told you that?your Mum to make Dad laugh.... You sound like a great boss LOL
 

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My condolences. Telemarketing is widely despised. I've had a few of those jobs a long time ago. They used to pay 4-5x minimum wage, because the turnover is so high.

It sounds like you subconsciously want to get fired, because it will force you to find a better job. You could just skip to the end of that process and go get a better job where you don't want to screw around at work.
I'm not getting paid 4-5 * min wage, it's more like 1.3 * min wage.

If I worked as a collection agent for the city, I would be earning like 2.32 times minimum wage. (ie sounds better than the current job)

My math shows that I'm getting 3.5 * more than WELFARE.

Our min wage here is $ 17.20 Cad/hour in Ontario province.
The work I'm paid for is $ 22 / hour. (they don't pay for breaks or lunch so it's actually less money earned than projected with the scheduled time, especially if you are sloppy with the breaks). With incentives, vacation pay, statutory holiday pay, that is bumped to like $ 26 / hour.
The living wage needed to live in Toronto (ie a decent salary) would be $ 37 / hour.

If I was living "real life" and had to pay for everything from that salary, I wouldn't be able to keep the car, or would have to make choices between shelter and using a food-bank. It's not a realistic wage or salary to really live on, but it's the best I have right now, and historically the most amount of money I have earned compared to Real-Estate in the 2010s, when no individual year netted or grossed as high income compared to this year at this job. I can't really say it is the worst, given my history, and actually the best job in terms of having a steady pay in that sense.

If there is a job paying 4-5 times a minmum wage, here that would be like near $ 100 / hour then I'll jump on that. You know of telemarketing operations paying $90 - $ 100 / hour? I'll send my resume there yesterday.
 

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I'm not getting paid 4-5 * min wage, it's more like 1.3 * min wage.

If I worked as a collection agent for the city, I would be earning like 2.32 times minimum wage. (ie sounds better than the current job)

My math shows that I'm getting 3.5 * more than WELFARE.

Our min wage here is $ 17.20 Cad/hour in Ontario province.
The work I'm paid for is $ 22 / hour. (they don't pay for breaks or lunch so it's actually less money earned than projected with the scheduled time, especially if you are sloppy with the breaks). With incentives, vacation pay, statutory holiday pay, that is bumped to like $ 26 / hour.
The living wage needed to live in Toronto (ie a decent salary) would be $ 37 / hour.

If I was living "real life" and had to pay for everything from that salary, I wouldn't be able to keep the car, or would have to make choices between shelter and using a food-bank. It's not a realistic wage or salary to really live on, but it's the best I have right now, and historically the most amount of money I have earned compared to Real-Estate in the 2010s, when no individual year netted or grossed as high income compared to this year at this job. I can't really say it is the worst, given my history, and actually the best job in terms of having a steady pay in that sense.

If there is a job paying 4-5 times a minmum wage, here that would be like near $ 100 / hour then I'll jump on that. You know of telemarketing operations paying $90 - $ 100 / hour? I'll send my resume there yesterday.
Notice I said "a long time ago." Minimum wage has shot up in recent years, at least in a lot of places. 25 years ago it was $4.25 and telemarketing paid 20-25 per hour. But it was still miserable. There were often more employees who left for a smoke break than the number who came back.

My state will hit $15 minimum wage in January. The neighboring state has a much lower minimum, but I have seen entry level retail jobs advertised at $20 per hour.
 

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Notice I said "a long time ago." Minimum wage has shot up in recent years, at least in a lot of places. 25 years ago it was $4.25 and telemarketing paid 20-25 per hour. But it was still miserable. There were often more employees who left for a smoke break than the number who came back.

My state will hit $15 minimum wage in January. The neighboring state has a much lower minimum, but I have seen entry level retail jobs advertised at $20 per hour.
How much is the welfare rate compared to these wages? At least getting paid 3.5 times the welfare rate is something half-decent.
You are getting paid much more money then if you did nothing (ie except a job search might be technically doing "something").
 

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How much is the welfare rate compared to these wages? At least getting paid 3.5 times the welfare rate is something half-decent.
You are getting paid much more money then if you did nothing (ie except a job search might be technically doing "something").
You don't get paid directly through our welfare system. The state subsidizes your basic needs. With no income, an apartment in the projects is like $35 a month. Then you get a food stamp card for food, and the big one, a med card for free healthcare, which is still pretty decent because we don't give that to everyone, like in a universal healthcare system.

Stupidly, our welfare system punishes anyone who tries to work at all. If you have any income whatsoever, they start reducing benefits. Some people pay $500 for the $35 apartment if they have a job. Realistically what is going on is that people get various side hustles and hide their income. Re-selling pills the government gave you or your kids for free is a common one. The going rate to sell your food stamp money is 50 cents on the dollar. The seller takes the buyer shopping. That's how we manage to have schools with hungry kids in them. I'm sure there's lots of prostitution, too, whether online or in person.
 

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You don't get paid directly through our welfare system. The state subsidizes your basic needs. With no income, an apartment in the projects is like $35 a month. Then you get a food stamp card for food, and the big one, a med card for free healthcare, which is still pretty decent because we don't give that to everyone, like in a universal healthcare system.

Stupidly, our welfare system punishes anyone who tries to work at all. If you have any income whatsoever, they start reducing benefits. Some people pay $500 for the $35 apartment if they have a job. Realistically what is going on is that people get various side hustles and hide their income. Re-selling pills the government gave you or your kids for free is a common one. The going rate to sell your food stamp money is 50 cents on the dollar. The seller takes the buyer shopping. That's how we manage to have schools with hungry kids in them. I'm sure there's lots of prostitution, too, whether online or in person.
Oh I see. We have a different system here in Ontario. Here they pay $ 733 / mo. Unemployment Benefits is 55% of your income for a period of time.

If I'm making about $ 2600-$2800/mo at call centre job, then obviously it's better than $ 733 / mo.
They let you make your own income, up to $ 200/mo, then they start clawing back like 50 cents on the dollar for any amount over.
I did the math, and if you make over $1666.67 in a month, you do not get a welfare payment, if you are in the welfare system.

When I was self-employed as an insurance agent, I was also on welfare. On the months I made little to no income, I got the full $ 733 payment. Normally when I was self-employed with insurance in 2022, I'd make like $ 1200/ mo give or take, and would get a smaller payment from the welfare office that would bump that $ 1200 to feel like I made $ 1500 for that month.

Occasionally I'd get a large commission cheque for $ 4500, in which case I'd get no payment from the welfare office. However, since the income was not reliable or stable, the next month you might make allot less and might trigger a small welfare payment.

The current job I'm doing, has a steady pay. There is no $ 4500 cheque coming in, but I'm making like $ 1200-$1300 every two weeks doing a "call center" version of selling insurance, which somehow looks better by the numbers compared to what I was making in the past.
I would not qualify for any welfare program with this job, but would still qualify for some low-income program benefits since the overall salary is small enough, in one person, to qualify for some programs.

Therefore, it would never make any sense to quit the job and end up in welfare and try to make it as a self-employed independent contractor full-time. While there is more freedom and flexibility of time being self-employed, not knowing how much your next paycheque will be, if a client cancels the insurance within 2 years you'll owe the commission back, and other uncertainties within the busienss itself, still makes what I'm doing sound better than what I was doing as a self-employed agent in the past.

Even in terms of going to the office, there is still some social life. Even if I'm not too close to anyone there, there are still a good amount of daily interactions. Whereas when I as self-employed, all in-person social interactions were with my folks and there was no social life.

This year, I visited a Blue Jays Game for baseball, Raptors Game for Basketball, and went to a Soccer game. I never been to these places before in the past. Also visited a Museum of Illusions, and had lunches with the group. Also you get recognition if you perform. Having a nice cold commission cheque is great...but there is also something about trophies, certificates, and being cheered on when you are doing particularly well. It's hard to say sometimes which is better. You tend to see things better in hindsight and nostaglia. Sure there is more freedom being self-employed, but is it really the best thing when everything is considered?
 

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Oh I see. We have a different system here in Ontario. Here they pay $ 733 / mo. Unemployment Benefits is 55% of your income for a period of time.

If I'm making about $ 2600-$2800/mo at call centre job, then obviously it's better than $ 733 / mo.
They let you make your own income, up to $ 200/mo, then they start clawing back like 50 cents on the dollar for any amount over.
I did the math, and if you make over $1666.67 in a month, you do not get a welfare payment, if you are in the welfare system.

When I was self-employed as an insurance agent, I was also on welfare. On the months I made little to no income, I got the full $ 733 payment. Normally when I was self-employed with insurance in 2022, I'd make like $ 1200/ mo give or take, and would get a smaller payment from the welfare office that would bump that $ 1200 to feel like I made $ 1500 for that month.

Occasionally I'd get a large commission cheque for $ 4500, in which case I'd get no payment from the welfare office. However, since the income was not reliable or stable, the next month you might make allot less and might trigger a small welfare payment.

The current job I'm doing, has a steady pay. There is no $ 4500 cheque coming in, but I'm making like $ 1200-$1300 every two weeks doing a "call center" version of selling insurance, which somehow looks better by the numbers compared to what I was making in the past.
I would not qualify for any welfare program with this job, but would still qualify for some low-income program benefits since the overall salary is small enough, in one person, to qualify for some programs.

Therefore, it would never make any sense to quit the job and end up in welfare and try to make it as a self-employed independent contractor full-time. While there is more freedom and flexibility of time being self-employed, not knowing how much your next paycheque will be, if a client cancels the insurance within 2 years you'll owe the commission back, and other uncertainties within the busienss itself, still makes what I'm doing sound better than what I was doing as a self-employed agent in the past.

Even in terms of going to the office, there is still some social life. Even if I'm not too close to anyone there, there are still a good amount of daily interactions. Whereas when I as self-employed, all in-person social interactions were with my folks and there was no social life.

This year, I visited a Blue Jays Game for baseball, Raptors Game for Basketball, and went to a Soccer game. I never been to these places before in the past. Also visited a Museum of Illusions, and had lunches with the group. Also you get recognition if you perform. Having a nice cold commission cheque is great...but there is also something about trophies, certificates, and being cheered on when you are doing particularly well. It's hard to say sometimes which is better. You tend to see things better in hindsight and nostaglia. Sure there is more freedom being self-employed, but is it really the best thing when everything is considered?
What you are calling welfare, in the US we call "being on unemployment." That is different from what we consider welfare, which is the social programs I mentioned above. Unemployment lasts a different length of time depending on the state. I had it in Florida once and they gave you six weeks. Unemployment gets more respect, because at least you once had a job. A lot of people on welfare have never had one, at least officially.
 

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What you are calling welfare, in the US we call "being on unemployment." That is different from what we consider welfare, which is the social programs I mentioned above. Unemployment lasts a different length of time depending on the state. I had it in Florida once and they gave you six weeks. Unemployment gets more respect, because at least you once had a job. A lot of people on welfare have never had one, at least officially.
Just to clarify my previous post. When I mentioned welfare, I meant welfare (aka social assistance), as opposed to unemployment insurance payments. You don't have to qualify apart from needing the money to receive Welfare. Therefore, in theory, one can quit a job they don't like and go straight on welfare. While on welfare, you can apply for unemployment. However, here is where it gets tricky. If you quit a job you don't like, you are not entitled to benefits. There has to be a just cause as to why you are quitting. Even if you have a just cause for quitting (ie as based on their rules and definition of a "Just cause"), you still have to do everything possible, and show that you did everything possible to resolve the situation so it would not have to go as far as quitting.

(ie in my case, you can't just quit a job because you don't like and then collect unemployment. There has to be a just cause. As long as I'm doing my job, I'm getting my hours, nothing has changed about the arrangements, there is no issue of any accomodation request made where warranted, then I'm not entitled to any unemployment and am on my own. The only way they will allow EI if you quit, is if you got accepted to another job, tendered your resignation to the current job, and the next job pulled their offer and you are out of a job, then in this case you would qualify for EI. However, welfare doesn't have these crazy rules all over it. They will just look at the fact you are in need, and plan to look for another job (ie at least cooperate with their program to look for work).

Normally, if one intends to apply for unemployment, they also apply for Welfare at the same time. The Welfare is more likely to be approved faster than any Unemployment approval, especially if it becomes a contentious EI claim against the former employer and either the termination or the quitting is disputed as to whether there is a just cause or not. If it works out favorably, then you have to repay back the Welfare office for any money colleceted from Unemployment. If not, well, you are stuck with the Welfare indefinitely (no end date unless you don't follow their program and update the caseworker when he/she calls).
 

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There is nothing more fun then the risk of getting caught and being fired on the spot, lol

Use a smartphone, with stored videos, and watch them next to my keyboard between calls in a call center sometimes.

I'm sure nobody has done this at work.

When I do this, I always check to make sure the coast is clear, the president of the company is not walking around, or executives from the bank, or even the manager.

The reprecussions are big if caught:
1) Could get fired on the spot, if someone in charge views this.
2) If a co-worker sees that, then that would make a sick impression of myself


The benefits of watching something like that:
1) If feeling upset of pissy, it instantly destresses you because they are candy videos/pics you are viewing silently.

Things like that make an otherwise boring and/or sad day a bit more interesting. Like I just made it high-stakes and get the adrealine running.

Again, it's not really porn, but stuff like a sexy women/cosplay women doing squats or twerking, things like that.

There is this one time today that I was thinking of taking the smartphone out, but then the manager popped out to talk to someone in the cubicle next to me. It's like you can never be too careful with this thing.

But tomorrow I don't plan to play this. I think I'll play a study-ASMR video of a lady staring at a book or computer or something. Watching something more boring is always less riskier.
As a man of God how to you reconcile watching smut, while at work at that?
You need to repent brother!!!
 

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As a man of God how to you reconcile watching smut, while at work at that?
You need to repent brother!!!
I wouldn't go as far as to call that smut. A lady working out in yoga pants is not smut. It is something that you might see if you go to the GYM. If some women posts videos of themselves working out, how would that be classified as smut? Also I also posted an ASMR study video. The lady is just at her computer/books studying, fully clothed of course.

This just becomes a campy type of people watching on video.
 

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Not that everyone hasn't screwed around on the clock at some point in their life, but it could be considered a form of stealing from your employer.
 
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