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tesla invented the radio
Watch this! It will change your world.
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THE_ADDMAN
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marconi discovered radio waves and built the first radio transmitter
Muzzlehatch
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squirrels: I can't find a single fault with anything you wrote in your last post. I do however suspect that your powers of reasoning and logic are a damn sight better than those of the people on the program.
And I don't know about Baltimore, but round here TV is lousy, and watching it is the last thing I want to do. And a lot of this kind of stuff is presented in a dramatic, uncritical way purely and simply to boost ratings. My ears prick up as soon as I hear the word "frequency" bandied about by people who really have no idea what it means and think it can be used to explain away just about anything.
I think we've strayed a bit from the original post, and I do feel way guilty that the original poster may have taken offence. My issue was entirely with the program, not with you posting it.
Can I bow out gracefully now? Its my first flame war. Good isn't it!
And I don't know about Baltimore, but round here TV is lousy, and watching it is the last thing I want to do. And a lot of this kind of stuff is presented in a dramatic, uncritical way purely and simply to boost ratings. My ears prick up as soon as I hear the word "frequency" bandied about by people who really have no idea what it means and think it can be used to explain away just about anything.
I think we've strayed a bit from the original post, and I do feel way guilty that the original poster may have taken offence. My issue was entirely with the program, not with you posting it.
Can I bow out gracefully now? Its my first flame war. Good isn't it!
I guess you guys missed the other thread on "The Secret," which is a million pages long.
It is unsubstantiated marketing BS.
Quantum theory aside, it simply makes no sense.
The whole website is designed to sell you stuff.
Think critically. There is nothing that supports "The Secret" other than some fallacious reasoning.
It is unsubstantiated marketing BS.
Quantum theory aside, it simply makes no sense.
The whole website is designed to sell you stuff.
Think critically. There is nothing that supports "The Secret" other than some fallacious reasoning.
Hi Guys, this video is correct regarding the Law of Attraction (more like Law of habit) but the problem is that they are making it sound like its magic and it's not. If you are willing to read this, you will understand(I hope). http://website.lineone.net/~christianlarson/index.htm
I think most of you are missing the point, the video isn't trying to give you a miracle solution to things you want, it's just trying to show you a different way of looking at things.
for example, if you want more money and you think your never going to get more money, you will always be negative, but if you think you will get more money and really start to believe it, you will be in a better state of mind and body to ACT on it!
I went to college a few years ago to study computing and maths, I didn't actually get the grades to study maths but I thought positive about what I wanted and started to use visualization techniques, and you know what? when the new term started I was sitting at a desk, looking at equations on a white board! lol I'm not saying it fell in my lap, I had to do some persuasion to the teacher, but he gave me chance! and the whole point of this is if I believed I couldn't do it, I wouldn't have tried persuading the teacher!
so it's not marketing BS, just positive thinking!!
for example, if you want more money and you think your never going to get more money, you will always be negative, but if you think you will get more money and really start to believe it, you will be in a better state of mind and body to ACT on it!
I went to college a few years ago to study computing and maths, I didn't actually get the grades to study maths but I thought positive about what I wanted and started to use visualization techniques, and you know what? when the new term started I was sitting at a desk, looking at equations on a white board! lol I'm not saying it fell in my lap, I had to do some persuasion to the teacher, but he gave me chance! and the whole point of this is if I believed I couldn't do it, I wouldn't have tried persuading the teacher!
so it's not marketing BS, just positive thinking!!
This is awesome....its not necessarily that people using the secret are getting things better...but they look at things in a better light. I LOVE IT. You need to live your whole life like this! This is what life is about!
No offence to the original poster, and thanks for sharing, but this is like a majority of self-help books I've read. They promise incredible things, then leave you without any real facts or instructions, except "think positive".
I don't buy into stuff like this and it usually follows a pattern, so when I hear several minutes of hype, I've started switching off.
I don't buy into stuff like this and it usually follows a pattern, so when I hear several minutes of hype, I've started switching off.
I agree with your attitude. If we hope to improve our intelligence and wisdom we must question everything and never accept anything blindly.
it hasn't stopped me thinking critically about it at all, but I like to keep an open mind, you say classic marketing, exactly what is it marketing? as far as I can see, it's trying to make you look at things differently than you do now, not stop ability to judge ideas negatively and positively.whistler said:
so many people, feel 'down in the dumps' everyday for most of their life, why deny someone with confidence and self esteem problems to benefit from this information? If alot of people changed their outlook on life, maybe we wouldn't have wars, crime and greedy politicians!
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They don't promise you anything...only what you promise yourself.Jariel said:
And "think positive" is enough. That and "act positive".
If, instead, you are looking for a step-by-step guide as to how to live your life, or some magic truth that will suddenly make all of this...the women, the money, the happiness...all flow into your life easily and without effort, you're going to be looking for a LONG time.
Even if there was such a thing, you would find no satisfaction in it.
There are no magic dancing shoes. Only your belief.
This is where I disagree. I can think and act positive sitting in my chair playing computer games, but this isn't going to help me get rich, successful or confident, as suggested by these "get rich", "get successful" or "get confident" courses.squirrels said:
I'm not looking for any magical solution or step by step guide, but direction is necessary to achieve anything, even just a walk to the shop. If you don't know which way you're meant to be going, then all the positive thinking, hard work and dedication in the world is not going to get you there.
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I strongly doubt that. "Positive" does not mean "absence of effort" or "most comfortable". If your goal is to get rich or get laid, then sitting around playing computer games is the furthest thing from positive.Jariel said:
Ace_McGregor
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I thought it was a great video. Even if you don't believe in it, what's wrong with a little positive thinking? If you don't become rich, at least you'll still be happy.
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I was disappointed by the lack of empowerment that they toted. They seemed to place the responsibility of getting what we want simply on our visualization thereof, rather than the action that must follow. To say that the universe will bring me a cup of coffee is ridiculous, but to say that I want a cup of coffee, will visualize myself getting a cup, and then will get myself a cup is much more empowering (and realistic) than putting the achievement of my goals in the hands of some unseen, unknown force around me.
Right message, wrong details, and it's a lot like What the Bleep do we Know, which had much more blatant use of pseudoscience when it came to the power of the mind to influence its environment and the abuse of schroedinger's cat experiement (Heisenberg's uncertainty principle).
Right message, wrong details, and it's a lot like What the Bleep do we Know, which had much more blatant use of pseudoscience when it came to the power of the mind to influence its environment and the abuse of schroedinger's cat experiement (Heisenberg's uncertainty principle).
read this...http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/mad-science/jakob-bohme/squirrels said:
New Age Piece of Information
New Age Psychological mumbo jumbo....visualization, goal-management, focus, think positive, 'Everyone is master of their own destiny' etc.... all wrapped in snake oil package(everyone is so happy like on Witnesses of Jehova magazine cover).
All great religions know about these thinks too....prayers (wishes), meditations, 'Mind over matter', 'faith of yours will cure you' etc. For higher level of "religious" knowledge check Gnostics, Freemasons etc. (intellectual elite of religion).
This "documentary" is very materialistic...you cant be enlightened in any good way wishing a new bike on Christmas
The real secret....There is a bunch (70%) of dumb, materialistic people who will buy(follow) anything if it is attacking their basic instincts in a cunning way....like this documentary (check how the sale is going for those broadcasters on amazon.com)
Eye opener...There are three kinds of people D1ks, puzzies and azzholes....Gary, Team America
New Age Psychological mumbo jumbo....visualization, goal-management, focus, think positive, 'Everyone is master of their own destiny' etc.... all wrapped in snake oil package(everyone is so happy like on Witnesses of Jehova magazine cover).
All great religions know about these thinks too....prayers (wishes), meditations, 'Mind over matter', 'faith of yours will cure you' etc. For higher level of "religious" knowledge check Gnostics, Freemasons etc. (intellectual elite of religion).
This "documentary" is very materialistic...you cant be enlightened in any good way wishing a new bike on Christmas
The real secret....There is a bunch (70%) of dumb, materialistic people who will buy(follow) anything if it is attacking their basic instincts in a cunning way....like this documentary (check how the sale is going for those broadcasters on amazon.com)
Eye opener...There are three kinds of people D1ks, puzzies and azzholes....Gary, Team America
Muzzlehatch
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Amusing postscript!
Just thought I was duty bound to share this with everyone.
Since the weekend, I've naturally been thinking about the issues in this thread quite a lot. (Mostly along the lines of "In a forum from discussing issues with women, how the hell did I end up arguing about quantum mechanics?") Well, my partner has just started a new business initiative. She's worked hard at it, and we're stood discussing the matter in the kitchen over a coffee. Anyway, she was a bit downhearted because nothing has come of it. So I'm comforting her and I'm thinking to myself; "Huh. And all these guys think is all you have to do is think positive and the thoughts will beam out and everything will be rosy. See I'm thinking positive now. Nothing. See?"
Well I swear to God just as I thought that the bloody phone went and rang with her first client!
All right, before we get carried away I've not changed my position! I still think the existing laws of probability can explain that quite sufficiently. But I do like a good joke, and I'm not going to be above posting a one against myself.
(A bit like the atheist saying "If there's a God may he strike me down now. See? Nothing. Aaarg!!!....)
Just thought I was duty bound to share this with everyone.
Since the weekend, I've naturally been thinking about the issues in this thread quite a lot. (Mostly along the lines of "In a forum from discussing issues with women, how the hell did I end up arguing about quantum mechanics?") Well, my partner has just started a new business initiative. She's worked hard at it, and we're stood discussing the matter in the kitchen over a coffee. Anyway, she was a bit downhearted because nothing has come of it. So I'm comforting her and I'm thinking to myself; "Huh. And all these guys think is all you have to do is think positive and the thoughts will beam out and everything will be rosy. See I'm thinking positive now. Nothing. See?"
Well I swear to God just as I thought that the bloody phone went and rang with her first client!
All right, before we get carried away I've not changed my position! I still think the existing laws of probability can explain that quite sufficiently. But I do like a good joke, and I'm not going to be above posting a one against myself.
(A bit like the atheist saying "If there's a God may he strike me down now. See? Nothing. Aaarg!!!....)
