Was it worth shutting down the economy?

[Xenom0rph]

@corrector time for some tough love. you can jerkk off to your socialist dreams but that will not help you. My family came to the U.S. from Cuba with literally nothing but the clothes we were wearing. Yet somehow my brothers and I have lived lives that most of the people in the world can only dream of. The reason why you are an incel that according to some of your posts can't even get escorts to bang him is because of your loser mentality. I've seen right wing retards as you would call them that have turned simple hobbies like duck call making , painting and drawing into profitable side business' that helped them buy and payoff houses and have super comfortable lives. But go ahead and keep complaining I'm sure that will help you. By the way your statement about the rich taking the money from the poor is retarded, the poor have no money that is why they are poor nvmbnuts

It's actually kinda sad how narcissists like Bernie Sanders targets young people and fill their minds with these socialist pipedreams. These kids waste away their youth hoping for a socialist utopia.....

....and then one morning they wake up and realize they're 40 years old with no education and no marketable skill sets and they blame it on society as a whole.....

 

[GoodOne123]

Personally I don't think it was worth it.

We are going to lose so much because of lockdown. The amount of jobs lost, mental health effects on people being stuck in their houses, and the increase of suicide and divorce.

If covid-19 was a virus with a higher death rate then there would be a valid justification for it, but it's not it's a joke compared to other pandemics we have had in the past.

 

[corrector]

@corrector time for some tough love. you can jerkk off to your socialist dreams but that will not help you. My family came to the U.S. from Cuba with literally nothing but the clothes we were wearing.

Did you come legally? Did you use a boat?

Yet somehow my brothers and I have lived lives that most of the people in the world can only dream of.

Do police ask for your papers? Has anyone called ICE on you yet? Right wingers dont think you belong here because you are not a true American. How do you feel about other people like you that werent so lucky and end up seperated from their folks and locked in cages. Sounds like you got lucky.

The reason why you are an incel that according to some of your posts can't even get escorts to bang him is because of your loser mentality.

Where did I say I cant get escorts? Why do you think I would want to deal with a demon possessed woman and risk possession from a wild animal demon(s)?

 

[EyeBRollin]

I do not question the seriousness of Covid 19. I ask whether our reaction has caused more harm than the virus?

How many deaths are acceptable? Please give a number.

 

[corrector]

People like thinker are just hypocrities like Geraldo Rivera. Outspoken right wing champions until their grandmother gets deported.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Everyone's death is inevitable, and therefore, "acceptable."

"Let it rip," right? Are you willing to sacrifice yourself for the good of the economy?

 

[GoodOne123]

Not to mention that they've admitted to padding the death tally with everyone who dies with the virus in his body... asymptomatic or not. According to Italy, this method resulted in an 8-fold over-representation of coronavirus deaths.

Exactly man, this whole thing has been blown out of proportion. God knows why.

I'm also concerned with how easy it was for the government to get us all under house arrest. Maybe it's all part of a bigger plan, but it's too soon to tell.

 

[Xenom0rph]

How many deaths are acceptable? Please give a number.

My conscience is okay with the original 2M projected COVID19 deaths......my conscience is not okay with 10s of millions new homeless folks because homelessness is a slow, painful and undignified death sentence......

 

[EyeBRollin]

I have been operating at full tilt since day1, and haven't taken a day off, to make sure that everyone else has whatever they need, to hideout comfortably in their homes, and that hospitals are adequately supplied(just in case). I'm not hiding, and won't be taking a subsidy.

I wore my country's uniform, when I was younger; so, apparently, I'm willing to sacrifice my life for my country, and for those who aren't. Does that answer your question?

We all die; hopefully, YOU won't die hiding in your home, from germs, while waiting on a government check.

That's a piss poor comparison. Serving the country in a defense capacity such as the military is not analogous to dying for corporate profits. So I'll ask the same question - are you willing to sacrifice yourself for the economy?

My conscience is okay with the original 2M projected COVID19 deaths......my conscience is not okay with 10s of millions new homeless folks because homelessness is a slow, painful and undignified death sentence......

Got it. You're comfortable with 2 million people dying, so long as you can profit. I find that disgusting.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Corporate profits? Who signs YOUR paycheck...a corporation or the government? You aren't concerned about your ability to feed yourself? Someone has to go to work, and if you're hiding at home, you should be very happy that I'm not...since you're not gonna feed yourself.

Answer the question - are you willing to die for the economy?

 

[zekko]

How many deaths are acceptable? Please give a number.

Good question, what is the number? There was a thread talking about the 38,000 who died every year in the US in car crashes. Is 38,000 deaths per year acceptable, just so we can drive our cars and get to places faster? If it was 38,000 projected to die in the coronavirus, would we shut down the economy? Should we have closed the economy to save the 12,000+ who died from the swine flu? Is 12,000 an acceptable number? Exactly what is an acceptable number?

Voluntarily house arrest...no ankle bracelets needed...for now, we're on the honor system.

Until they get those apps running to track your every movement on your cellphones.

 

[EyeBRollin]

That's a stupid question. Death is the price of living. I'm unwilling to give up living, in a futile effort to stay alive. The real question is whether you'd venture out of your house, if the rest of us stopped feeding you.

^^^ can't answer the question. We'll take that as a no, you won't die for the economy. So quit your whining.

Good question, what is the number? There was a thread talking about the 38,000 who died every year in the US in car crashes. Is 38,000 deaths per year acceptable, just so we can drive our cars and get to places faster?

Yes. And we take numerous safety precautions to make that number as low as possible. Why have airbags and seat belt laws?

Nice try though.

If it was 38,000 projected to die in the coronavirus, would we shut down the economy? Should we have closed the economy to save the 12,000+ who died from the swine flu? Is 12,000 an acceptable number? Exactly what is an acceptable number?

That question is based on nothing. COVID-19 is novel, there are no known human immunities. The U.S. economy should have been closed at first known domestic case. Predictably, all my posts the last two months on this topic have aged well. Here were are, half a million confirmed cases later and naysayers are still delusional.

Until they get those apps running to track your every movement on your cellphones.

Finally we get to the truth of your post - conspiracy theory bullshvt.

 

[zekko]

That question is based on nothing. COVID-19 is novel, there are no known human immunities. The U.S. economy should have been closed at first known domestic case. Predictably, all my posts the last two months on this topic have aged well. Here were are, half a million confirmed cases later and naysayers are still delusional.

I wasn't attacking you or questioning the seriousness of the virus. I'm asking a philosophical (and probably rhetorical) question: What's an acceptable number?

 

[EyeBRollin]

I wasn't attacking you or questioning the seriousness of the virus. I'm asking a philosophical (and probably rhetorical) question: What's an acceptable number?

Fair. There is only one serious answer to that question - as close to zero as possible.

 

[EyeBRollin]

According to you, choosing to work through this "plague" is tantamount to choosing to "die for the economy." So, since I never STOPPED working, in your eyes, apparently, I'm "choosing to die," every day, just to keep YOU safe. You're welcome, ma'am.

Nope, ^^^ this is another deceptive attempt at changing the subject. I asked how many deaths are acceptable to which you chimed in:

Everyone's death is inevitable, and therefore, "acceptable."

And you still won't admit that you are unwilling to die for this economy.

However, personally, I don't see continuing to work as "choosing to die." If that were my choice, then I'm really bad at it, since I'm still alive.

On the other hand, I've RISKED my life for others(and just for kicks, honestly) many times. In the scheme of things, hiding out, and relying on others to keep the world running, to keep me fed and safe, is a much bigger risk that just f ucking going to work.

Do what you like, Chicken Little, just try not being so loud and proud about your fear.

And that is a strawman. You claimed people dying is acceptable so we can get the economy going. So I'll ask another question - who should die? Will you sacrifice your parents? Siblings? Children? Who should die?

 

[Bible_Belt]

By this professor's estimates, about ten percent of americans have the virus already:

COVID-19: On average, only 6% of actual infections detected worldwide

The number of confirmed cases for the novel coronavirus disease COVID-19 officially issued by countries and widely reported by national and international media outlets dramatically understates the true number of infections, according to a recent report from the University of Göttingen. Dr...

medicalxpress.com

 

[thinker]

@corrector I came to the U.S. legally on a boat in the middle of a hell of a storm where I almost died and would have if not for the quick actions of my older brother and the grace of God. Yes police have asked me for ID and one even pulled his gun on me and arrested me, I got to spend a couple of days in jail building my street cred like a straight up pimp. Also I'v been called a filthy spick and on Oye which is a local slur for Cubans. As for those other people they should have used the legal pathways into this country as millions of others have used in the past. Now as to my good luck, I was born in one of those great socialist utopias dumb cvnts think is so great so I was born a slave. I'v lived in a sanctuary where the government had security forces waiting outside for the orders to go in and start killing us meanwhile they were trying to starve us out, I lived through this at 6 years old , have you ever starved I can tell you from first hand experience that it is a painful experience. Afterwards I got to live for months at a refugee camp where we had more starvation and other difficulties. After coming to the U.S. my brothers and I have experienced extreme poverty including homelessness. My mother died of lung cancer when I was 13 and my family was crippled financially by the medical bills we had to pay for her care. When my family came to this country we were swindled by people who took advantage of the fact that we didn't know the language or the system in our new country. That is only a sample of the good luck that I have had. The best luck that my family has had especially my brothers and I is that we didn't shrink from these hardships and looked for the hand out we simply nutted up and kept pushing through learning from each set back, in other words we made our own luck. You call me a hypocrite because weak cvnts like you have no idea what men like me have had to endure and what has forged me into the men that I am today.You don't realize how easy you really have it and how if you put some real consistent effort and action into your life it would improve. By the way I don't care if people think that I am not a real american, I simply don't give a fvck and it is their right to think and believe whatever they want. The only person who I value his opinion of me is me and in case you haven't noticed I think quit highly of myself. In some of your previous posts you complained about escorts not wanting to bang you, and as for them being wild animal demons we always hate the things we want but cannot have.

 

[thinker]

@Spaz spin master, yet another money making opportunity. I will open Thinker's spin master consulting services immediately if not sooner. I will also start a spin master online course as yet another income stream, by the way I know that you are wondering what the price of the course will be but since you were so critical in this multi income stream money making opportunity I am going to let you have the course for free ( I am going to need you to give me a glowing review of the course for marketing purposes).

 

[corrector]

@corrector In some of your previous posts you complained about escorts not wanting to bang you,

This is not correct and is something that you are making up.

and as for them being wild animal demons we always hate the things we want but cannot have.

I didn't say THEY were wild animal demons. Demons are invisible entities that want to possess and live inside people.

The reason I'm somewhat pissed is that I have already written a number of threads detailing a spiritual attack that happened the morning after an encounter with a Brazilian escort named Bianca on December 6, 2014.

There are various issues about this attack, but the summation of it is that I feel like I was spiritually bitten by a snake after I orgasmed next to an escort. I asked the escort "what did she put on me?", but since she did not understand English properly, she thought I asked her if she had a great time too and replied that I was the best client she had for the whole day.

The next morning the spiritual attack occurred. I was not myself and felt an outside demon(s) tried to possess me and wreck havoc inside of me and a total collapse occurred afterwards. I felt like I dealt with the devil by dealing with the prostitute. This was never my intention. I detest anything occultic or demonic and only intended to deal with a woman -- not anything else.

There was a desire to growl that was held in and fought, nausea, vomit and sleepless nights. Could not watch movies, mastrubate or look at porn because I felt I would be sucked into this vortex into space if I did. I went through painstaking efforts to make sure my **** never got hard. I remember I would urinate and do everything possible that it would not get hard because there was pure terror.

The ordeal lasted between December 6 - December 28, 2014, and I was basically under a mental lock-down during this time. I could not drive my car. I could not conduct business. Could not enjoy tea, or enjoy pancakes with maple syrup, and would have to force myself to eat soup or something because eating was an ordeal. My perception was messed up in that I'd feel I would be falling when I'm not falling or that walls would change dimension or I would feel like I'm somewhere else when I'm not.

Looking at movies is now considered a sign of mental health. Looking at music videos is a sign of mental health. Fapping is good. I no longer feel like I'm going to be sucked into a vortex and into space. Part of my soul went into this escort, and I wanted to get it back but could not.

This is now 6 years later, so if you want to write about your pain, even though its mostly physical and understandable, it does not detract with me that I experienced something to that was like being in a type of horror movie like "It Follows" (2014) (this horror movie was viewed in 2018 -- so I never knew it existed, it's only something I watched later and thought, gee, this sounds like something that I relate with because I felt stalked by an invisible enemy after dealing with that prostitute and didn't know when it would strike me to make me feel like it would turn me into a zombie or something like that).

 

[GoodOne123]

Voluntarily house arrest...no ankle bracelets needed...for now, we're on the honor system.

In the UK you can get fined a hefty amount for going against the government guidelines.

The guidelines only allow you to step out the house to buy essentials, or to go for one jog a day for exersize. I've heard of many people being stopped in parks by police to be questioned.