was it easier in the 60's?

[pyros]

Hi guys.

I was thinking about all the struggle and problems that nowadays guys have in order to meet, pick up, and find a good match for them.


All this Game, DJ stuff etc...
do you think it was easier for guys living in the 60's-70's?
did they need Game?

I think they did not. You always had wussies but I think the men had the frame, they acted like men and women behaved like they were suposed to be, at least when refering to relationships (no FB, no clubs, no 1000 guys orbiting same girl, no female super power like today...)


What do you think?

 

[backbreaker]

lol i'm gonna take an educated guess and assume you're white. if so **** yeah it was.


let me expand before someone closes the thread lol.


look, the problem that men have today with dating is the same problem, the exact same actually as we are having with the economy when you break it all down

once you get past all the bull****, all the political propaganda, the bottom line with the economy is that you in a nutshell, have more people, that are competing for the same amount of jobs (if not less) than you did 40 years ago. We can ship our manufacturing jobs overseas now. We can ship our programming jobs overseas.. I have said it a few times my best programmer is based in Uttar Pradesh. 40 years ago I would not have had access to him.

so you get a lot of people.. either people who used to do hard core blue coller work like building cars, that can't find work. American based programmers, there is still a very good market for but the avg to below avg get culled out really quick; people will pay for good work but people won't pay for generic avg website work like they would 10 years ago just beucse you live in the same city, so the bottom tier of programmers are fighting for scraps and are living hand to mouth if that, people will outsource avg website work 8 days a week and honestly they should. that's capitalism. why pay you 1500 dollars for a site that i can get built the exact same avg quality for 700 somewhere else lol i don't give a **** how much you paid to go to college or what your bills are it's not going to guilt me into paying more for a site. it' snot my fault you suck at your job. But the above avg to bad ass programmers, generally don't have a probelm finding clients.


The game is no different. Women, because of race relations, ease of travel, social media, just have more options. at the end of the day, that's what this is all about. Also add in the fact that women, for the most part, don't need men finandically.. a lot of women make just as much if not more than men do, so while women are wired to want a guy to be the head of a household, the ability to put food on the table is not an exaggerated character trait like it was 40 years ago. game = trying to put yourself back at the top of a woman's options list whereas 40 years ago you were there just by default beucase she couldn't date 1/3rd of the people she saw beucse it was stigmatized and she didn't' know anyone else around town or out of town so you're it


the cream is gonna rise to the top. in work, or in game. the top is not gonna have a problem getting laid. the bottom class wasn't getting laid then and isn't getting laid now. it's hte male middle class that is suffering, guys who don't want to put the work in but yet, still want HB 8's, mad that they have other options and would rather spend their time lashing out rather than addressing the problem


i joke but in a serious manner i don't understand how people can believe in capitalism yet not be gung ho about hypergamy.. it's the same freaking thing lol. i guess when one benefits you and one doesn't...

because women, don't for the most part literally need men anymore, the price of pvssy has inflated. it's worth more beucase they can be more selective about who they give it out to and don't HAVE to use it as a bargaining tool to secure a life style.

in short what i am really trying to say is that women haven't per say changed as much as the conditions of which a woman will be intimate with a man have because of socioeconomic conditions. Women were always "like this".

 

[Scars]

You just needed to have drugs and be able to play guitar.

-Scars

 

[Mike32ct]

I can only go by what my dad told me...

He said back in the day...

1. Women went out to meet men. (I know. Scary isn't it lol?) No girls night out crap.

2. Never groups of more than two women. No huge sets where you have to entertain Madison S q u are G a r den.

3. If you looked ok and had confidence, you could score no problem.

 

[5string]

Even I'm not old enough to remember what it was like in the 60's

 

[starfishandcoffee]

my dad's never had game - even after the sexual revolution, he had no problem getting some in the '70s.

One of my older male coworkers (used to be in a band) has told me over and over again that it was soooo easy back in the day. The way he put it - "Every time you went out, you had a 1 in 3 chance of meeting someone and running the bases."

 

[Trump]

i joke but in a serious manner i don't understand how people can believe in capitalism yet not be gung ho about hypergamy.. it's the same freaking thing lol. i guess when one benefits you and one doesn't...

because women, don't for the most part literally need men anymore, the price of pvssy has inflated. it's worth more beucase they can be more selective about who they give it out to and don't HAVE to use it as a bargaining tool to secure a life style.

in short what i am really trying to say is that women haven't per say changed as much as the conditions of which a woman will be intimate with a man have because of socioeconomic conditions. Women were always "like this".

Exactly. People love America, freedom, choices, elections, guns, porn, gambling. But when it comes to hypergamy...then they start to think twice and start to like middle eastern culture.

Give me a break, can't be selective about the freedom you like. Live in America, just have to shut up and work, girls have more power with sex than a guy ever will.

It's frustrating that it was so so easy getting laid in the 60s without all these games, spending money, dealing with bad, rude, and childish behaviour, but what can you do, the market wont adjust to your needs. Just have to do your best and not take any crap from women.

 

[Stagger Lee]

I think it was easier to get sex and also to snag a young, hot, quality girl friend for sure. Just going back as far as I can remember to the 80's, older men had more value, women were thinner, and old women had no value and there was no cougars.

 

[limerickdesign]

Yep and if you cant wait then let the motivation to work harder or to get another side income stream to get yourself a girl overseas or see escorts every week or so.
Wish escorts's "donation" cost less but that will hopefully get us through these dry periods with the feeling of no way out... I wouldnt mind it so much if it meant women had to do the same but what can do you do...

 

[pdx1138]

60's??

Hell it was easy in the 90's

 

[limerickdesign]

If only we could get our mindset to see business and making money the same way we get with wanting women. If you can direct that energy towards something else man o man the power.

 

[backbreaker]

Always, always, always. 99% of problems guys face with chicks would disappear if they had the discipline to work on themselves, really work on themselves. You want the HB8? Then you damn sure better be a solid 8 or above yourself brother!

Like you too bb, I had to focus on developing myself (education) to get where I am now. I didn't get laid at all during my masters. A whole year (still doesn't beat your three though!). But it reaped dividends. My pulling power at 24 is so much greater than at 18 or 20.

That means getting your ass to the gym, it means focusing on building a business, rising up the corporate ladder or acquiring wealth through other means. It means building your character, learning game, developing your personality and painstakingly facing rejection again and again and again. Rome wasn't built in a day! But no we'd rather sit here and circle jerk and reminisce about when things were easier...

Don't wish it were easier, wish you were better.



Money! Someone gets it! :cheer:

i would also like to add the fact that, social media works against men, in every possible way.


this is what i mean. from a pure game standpoint, attracting women standpoint, those 3 years.. when i came out of that shell, no one recognized me. **** i didn't recognize me. Beucase for the first time in my life i had unplugged from everyting and everyone around me, spent some real time with mysel fand figured out who i was.

we tell guys all the time, be different, be unique.. ****, all you have to do is be yourself. but the kick is, yo hae to figure out who YOU are.

• when i was 18 and went into the three year period i listened to rap and hip hop. when i came out all i listened to was classical piano and jazz music. Maybe the occasional earth wind and fire or Smoky Robinson
• When i was 18 i played basketball, **** i played high school basketball for 3 years. I started for 2. by the time of 21 i had figured out i really didn't give a **** about basketball i just did it because my friends did I can count on one hand the amount of pro games i've watched in the last decade. I don't think i've watched one for the entire 4 quarters
• 18 went in, typical black kid wtih the baggy jeans, timbs. nothing wrong with that, but that never was me i like to dress up. 21, suits, slacks, polo's
• i was the most passive person on earth at 18 i wanted to impress my friends. by the time i was 21 i ran **** in my circle and eventually i kicked all my old friends to the curve beucase i got tired of their silly ****
• I took an AP art history class in high school, my history credit my junior year. It always stuck with me and i Loved the class. though i never had the balls to expand on it. By the time i was in my early 20's i had the galls to put up some of my fav panting i learned about around my house.. the conversation of saint paul is my fav, there's a blown up copy of it in my work room that i have framed
• My entire thing with horse racing. I've always loved horse racing,e ven as a child when my dad took me to the track, but never really followed it beucase i was too worried about playing ball and looking cool with my friends.
• There is something about executions i find interesting and i have a framed picture of Ruth Snyder in my.. it used to be my living room but the picture freaks my son out so now it's in my bedroom, it's actually a pretty famous photo, she was the first woman to ever be put to death in america via the electric chair and a picture of her strapped down to the chair was leaked to the press.

i say all that to say the more you around people all the time the more you blend in.



I make a good chunk of money, and I'm pretty easy on the eyes from what i have been told but 10 out of 10 times when i would meet a girl, even my now wife the first thing they woudl say as a far as a compliment was always "man.. you are a different cat" or " man you are really unique, you're interesting" and not beucase i'm running game (which i am) or beucase they like me, but because, I really am interesting lol. And i'm really not all that interesting.. i like what i like, and i dont' make any bones about liking what i like, and i took the time to figure out what i like, which is something i dont' think a lot of people do. You know how blown away chicks are to take the to an art gallery, and can talk about the **** in there on command?



in short, what the **** would you do, what would you be into, what sports would you follow, how would you dress, if no one else was looking or bothered to pay you any attention. I guarantee you that the person there will be not who most people are today.



That's your leg up right there.

 

[st_99]

Man I wish I could travel back in time, roll up to one of those malt shops and talk to some girls. Just want to see the attitudes back then.. would really be interesting but something tells me some there are some clear fundamentals that will never change.

Oh, and I'd like to add, does anybody remember "love at aol" or whatever the hell it was called basically AOL's early online dating back in 2000. Dude, that sh!t was so EASY!!! I would get numbers left and right, no problems at all, LOL. I would actually call, and they would actually talk and they would actually want to meet! haha. It was all so new and exciting and the girls were not b1tches, they just were fun and went along with it. what happened to that?

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

I can only go by what my dad told me...

He said back in the day...

1. Women went out to meet men. (I know. Scary isn't it lol?) No girls night out crap.

2. Never groups of more than two women. No huge sets where you have to entertain Madison S q u are G a r den.

3. If you looked ok and had confidence, you could score no problem.

My father said the exact same thing. So I believe the above to be true.

People today don't understand this simple truth: women DON'T GO OUT TO MEET MEN.

SO STOP GOING TO CLUBS FFS.

You're living 50 years ago in the stone age with the mentality of going out to clubs/bars to meet girls. It is beyond inefficient. It is a waste of time and money. Wake up.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

Always, always, always. 99% of problems guys face with chicks would disappear if they had the discipline to work on themselves, really work on themselves. You want the HB8? Then you damn sure better be a solid 8 or above yourself brother!

HB8? :crackup:

These days HB6's expect men to be 8's.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

Man I wish I could travel back in time, roll up to one of those malt shops and talk to some girls. Just want to see the attitudes back then.. would really be interesting but something tells me some there are some clear fundamentals that will never change.

Oh, and I'd like to add, does anybody remember "love at aol" or whatever the hell it was called basically AOL's early online dating back in 2000. Dude, that sh!t was so EASY!!! I would get numbers left and right, no problems at all, LOL. I would actually call, and they would actually talk and they would actually want to meet! haha. It was all so new and exciting and the girls were not b1tches, they just were fun and went along with it. what happened to that?

POF happened.

Online dating was great until about 2004.

 

[backbreaker]

HB8? :crackup:

These days HB6's expect men to be 8's.

that's the problem with your logic

a HB6 can expect an hb8 all day long. but she will end up settling for an HB6 or somewhere around that caliber. the only difference between now and 40 years ago, is that the hb6.5 can get pump and dumped a lot more by the hb 8 men until she realizes she's not an hb8. but you act like there was a time in hsitory where hb6'5s didnt' want to **** hb 8 men

guys and girls generally end up finding their level of water. it might take some to realize exactly where there level of water is, but there is not just heeps and bounds of hb 8.5 dudes running around with hb 5's because they what they expect' who gives a **** what they expect, i expect a foot job from megyn kelly every other week

so what do you do in the mean time? the only thing you can do, find girls who like you.

at the end of the day, it's the ONLY way to end the game. i don't see what the fus is about. weed through the dip****s, improve yourself, work on your game, find girls who like you. that's all you can do. this thread and be 500 pages long and on page 501, that will be the exact same conclusion

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

that's the problem with your logic

a HB6 can expect an hb8 all day long. but she will end up settling for an HB6 or somewhere around that caliber.

You underestimate their entitlement. They won't settle. They will whine and nag well into their 30's and 40's about "where are all the good men?" :crackup:

They will get knocked up by a desperate 8 who was tired of getting rejected by HB6's.

Then they will become single mothers and only then will their standards BEGIN to drop.

Tried, tested and true.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

That's right. A 40+ year HB6 single mother still thinks she deserves an 8. There. I said it. You know it is true.

 

[evan12]

Always, always, always. 99% of problems guys face with chicks would disappear if they had the discipline to work on themselves, really work on themselves. You want the HB8? Then you damn sure better be a solid 8 or above yourself brother!

MEN dont have the time to work on themselves , you cant be successful man if you spend your time going to gym and making your look better and other silly things that if we told it to old men they would laugh on us .
manhood is not in look it is in actions, that is why a lot of men dont work on themselves